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To me it looks like we are sharing the Toronto flights with Exeter. As the flight has a stop on the way back and all the dates match with Exeter.
Did they do that this year aswell? Or were both outward and inward flights direct this year?
Did they do that this year aswell? Or were both outward and inward flights direct this year?
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Ncl - Dub
We hear from time to time about airports having to ingratiate themselves to airlines in order that they serve the airport. To an extent this has historically in NCL's case benefited all. However things go wrong with this system when airlines take the p**s, which I am afraid appears to the case of RYR & their activities on the NCL-DUB service.
Basically once daily is inadequate & excepting a "non business" additional flight late on Fridays & Sundays would appear to serve predominantly the booze revelers, is now the only offering on a popular route. As for RYR, then they were happy enough to run the twice daily early & late schedules when EI were trying (albeit half hearted) to re-establish themselves. They are clearly not bothered in the region, in having pulled the DTV-DUB also, they have shown total cynicism, & in my opinion would serve NCL better simply to pull out completely and "create a vacuum" for a more committed carrier to move in. The traffic figures stack up, historically it can be seen that double the capacity & the pax figures roughly follow in line.
In anticipating all the incoming postings arguing the basic revenue vs. volume argument, then I have an interesting way of looking at this in this particular instance. The closest RYR offerings EDI-DUB, LBA-DUB both offer twice daily & if one takes any day at random, and in looking at the internet booking, compares the fare levels being achieved on these alternatives, then it is quite obvious that neither of these "quasi competition offerings” are yielding a greater revenue.
So what’s it really about, in reality RYR only interested in their bases/hubs & in their open contempt for EI are happy to retain a block on other carriers producing a more useful product. As for NCL then I suspect the management are wary of upsetting RYR
, but in reality are we bothered ?
Basically once daily is inadequate & excepting a "non business" additional flight late on Fridays & Sundays would appear to serve predominantly the booze revelers, is now the only offering on a popular route. As for RYR, then they were happy enough to run the twice daily early & late schedules when EI were trying (albeit half hearted) to re-establish themselves. They are clearly not bothered in the region, in having pulled the DTV-DUB also, they have shown total cynicism, & in my opinion would serve NCL better simply to pull out completely and "create a vacuum" for a more committed carrier to move in. The traffic figures stack up, historically it can be seen that double the capacity & the pax figures roughly follow in line.
In anticipating all the incoming postings arguing the basic revenue vs. volume argument, then I have an interesting way of looking at this in this particular instance. The closest RYR offerings EDI-DUB, LBA-DUB both offer twice daily & if one takes any day at random, and in looking at the internet booking, compares the fare levels being achieved on these alternatives, then it is quite obvious that neither of these "quasi competition offerings” are yielding a greater revenue.
So what’s it really about, in reality RYR only interested in their bases/hubs & in their open contempt for EI are happy to retain a block on other carriers producing a more useful product. As for NCL then I suspect the management are wary of upsetting RYR
, but in reality are we bothered ?
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Interesting post - forget Ryanair and any false hopes and strike a deal with Aer Lingus. Price Ryanair out, give a good deal to EI to operate double daily, with the morning flight interlining with the transatlantic stuff.
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The Ryanair flights are now available for the summer. Girona returns 3 times per week, although the flight times are not as good as MME. Dublin continues 9 times per week with the inconvenient 6.25am departure from Dublin the only option apart from Fridays and Sundays.
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FR Dublin
I have to agree with skyman re the FR services especially to Dublin. With the summer schedule launched with that 06:25 DUB-NCL service leaves a route really poorly served. They should either take it seriously or leave it to someone else.
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Re : NCL - DUB
I've just booked with Aer Arran on DUB-NCL for a visit home after a quick trip to Dublin
FR want nigh on £100 for the pleasure (with my hold bag) whilst Aer Arran want £81 with bags
Apparantly it's just a charter that runs when Sunderland are at home but I'll keep an eye on it in future
I've just booked with Aer Arran on DUB-NCL for a visit home after a quick trip to Dublin
FR want nigh on £100 for the pleasure (with my hold bag) whilst Aer Arran want £81 with bags
Apparantly it's just a charter that runs when Sunderland are at home but I'll keep an eye on it in future
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Quite a few military flights through NCL over the past couple of weeks - is this an area of business which is likely to increase? Have MOD/Military flights not tended to use MME previously?
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The Eindhoven military charters seemed to have been Dutch Army exercises in the north east, I've seen a number of dutch registered army vehicles around this week. It has been a lot of years since such a big military charter op here.
Anyone know why TS have Toronto arrival here tomorrow ? is it the last arrival of the season ? We have had an A330 for last arrival in some of the previous years !
Anyone know why TS have Toronto arrival here tomorrow ? is it the last arrival of the season ? We have had an A330 for last arrival in some of the previous years !
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Izmir Flights summer 2010
Is this a new route sure we didnt have Izmir for summer 2009?
Sat 24 Jul 2010
07:15 Newcastle (NCL) Sat 24 Jul 2010
13:20 Izmir (ADB) TCX 672K
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Sat 24 Jul 2010
07:15 Newcastle (NCL) Sat 24 Jul 2010
13:20 Izmir (ADB) TCX 672K
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I seem to remember this was announced for 2009 but never operated. Not sure why you would go to Izmir these days as Bodrum is much closer to the resorts in Turkey previously served from Izmir?
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Thomas Cook / Jet2
Looks like the website is getting updated.
Flights to Malaga are now shown LS 557/8 sunday flight leaving at 8am.
Wonder how many more flights that were operated by TCX this summer are going to LS??
Looks like the Izmir flights may go ahead this year then?
will keep checking the websites and let you know if i find anything else out.
Flights to Malaga are now shown LS 557/8 sunday flight leaving at 8am.
Wonder how many more flights that were operated by TCX this summer are going to LS??
Looks like the Izmir flights may go ahead this year then?
will keep checking the websites and let you know if i find anything else out.