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Airport can handle 10m per year
Just need airlines to do what Ryanair are doing and come in at off peak times
Still no news on easyjet winter 2016/7
Winter timetable now on airport website
Just need airlines to do what Ryanair are doing and come in at off peak times
Still no news on easyjet winter 2016/7
Winter timetable now on airport website
Wasn't apron space overnight an issue last time we got busy - almost run out of stands for night stoppers?
Also, nothing would look "lovely" in EZY's new scheme...
Also, nothing would look "lovely" in EZY's new scheme...
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Parking of aircraft was a little tighter than usual last year but that was due to the fact that the mail apron became a seasonal car park in the peak of summer. This summer shouldn't be a problem, based aircraft and night stoppers should amount to 1 aircraft each from BA,KLM,AF and BMI, 3 aircraft each from Eastern, EZY, Thomson and TCX, and 7 aircraft from Jet2 which amounts to 23 stands required out of a possible 28.
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That's why the airport needs airlines like Ryanair to come in during the day time at off peak rather than basing aircraft.
I believe that there is a plan to expand the parking area at the northend not sure when and if this work will start
I believe that there is a plan to expand the parking area at the northend not sure when and if this work will start
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Interesting "Quote" from the EasyJet pprune page.
"Opening bases in PMI and BCN. I think the move is on to close expensive UK bases. NCL looks vulnerable. The only domestic route flown by NCL based AC is BFS. Increased competition from VEULING on the BCN rotation and AGP and ALC from RYANAIR also add to uncertainty. Also factor in appalling CC "sickness" and the omens do not look good for the NE".
"Opening bases in PMI and BCN. I think the move is on to close expensive UK bases. NCL looks vulnerable. The only domestic route flown by NCL based AC is BFS. Increased competition from VEULING on the BCN rotation and AGP and ALC from RYANAIR also add to uncertainty. Also factor in appalling CC "sickness" and the omens do not look good for the NE".
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Seems to be a problem, also, with G-GDFU - LS583 to Alicante. If FR24 is correct, this flight seems to have aborted take-off and returned to stand,
- Burning off fuel then?
G-GDFC still holding above North East and Coast at 10,000ft
No fuel dump on the 737.
G-GDFC still holding above North East and Coast at 10,000ft
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Update on G-GDFC
Exited the hold at NCL, now diverteing to MAN. Unknown what the problem is, but LS545 is showing departure time out of MAN at 1300z according to the Jet2 Live Flight Arrivals: (Look at Lanzarote Arrivals) https://reservations.jet2.com/Jet2.R...ntstatusresult
Best Guess is technical problem. Its burned fuel and maintaining 10,000ft. MAN has the longer runway, and will have an operational a/c on the ground to put the pax onto
Exited the hold at NCL, now diverteing to MAN. Unknown what the problem is, but LS545 is showing departure time out of MAN at 1300z according to the Jet2 Live Flight Arrivals: (Look at Lanzarote Arrivals) https://reservations.jet2.com/Jet2.R...ntstatusresult
Best Guess is technical problem. Its burned fuel and maintaining 10,000ft. MAN has the longer runway, and will have an operational a/c on the ground to put the pax onto
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G-GDFW has just flown into NCL from MAN - This seems to be for delayed LS523 to Murcia which should have departed at 08.45 (Now estimating a 11.35 departure)
G-GDFC does indeed seem to be heading now for MAN maintaining 10,000ft currently over West Yorkshire
Not the best day for Jet2 at Newcastle.
Edit: - G-GDFU to ALC did return to stand and is now showing a delayed 1300 departure time.
G-GDFC does indeed seem to be heading now for MAN maintaining 10,000ft currently over West Yorkshire
Not the best day for Jet2 at Newcastle.
Edit: - G-GDFU to ALC did return to stand and is now showing a delayed 1300 departure time.
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The problem was that the landing gear would not retract after take off.
The reason that it took up the hold was so that the crew could contact their company for advice as to whether to return to Newcastle or divert elsewhere.
The problem was that the landing gear would not retract after take off.
The reason that it took up the hold was so that the crew could contact their company for advice as to whether to return to Newcastle or divert elsewhere.
Still no news on easyjet winter 2016/7
Also, can't find this story anywhere else???
This city gets a worse deal on holidays than anywhere else - Mirror Online
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SWBKCB, finally someone that agrees about the new easyjet livery
I really hope we don't see them ditch... But if they must insist on sitting there with their thumbs up their arses then good riddance... But it worries me that if they do leave, we'll lose routes like Geneva, Nice etc. with no-one to replace them (not in the same way anyway, x2 weekly flights from Jet2 isn't the same) and the selection of EU city routes from NCL is dire as it is anyway. Then we could lose Bristol as well, I don't know if Ryanair would go for it or not.
I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it... If I was easyjet I would be:
- Sorting out the scheduling on key routes like BRS/BFS from NCL, offer times people want! Nobody wants to land in Bristol at 21:30 on a Wednesday night! Then maybe if Ryanair does start NCL-BFS, people will pick EZY because 1. They've been in the market for years, 2. Their NCL based timings are better than FR's BFS based timings
- Be flexible, be proactive, offer something new:
----- Too much competition from VY to BCN? Cut 2 weekly frequencies, start 2 weekly Lisbon.
----- NCL crew too expensive on PMI runs? Transfer daily NCL-PMI to daily PMI-NCL, start x4 weekly Milan, x3 weekly Munich.
----- Ryanair eating into your AGP/ALC profits too much (because they're half the price, more customer orientated and offer pretty much the same hard product... But with 2 hand luggages?)? Cut x2 AGP, x2 ALC, give us x1 weekly Mykonos, x3 weekly Berlin/Venice
----- While you're at it, give a bit more outsourcing a go and see if you can shove in x2/3 Isle of Man runs
Obviously it's more complicated than my slightly frustrated tongue in cheek response above and would require a lot more shuffling around than I made out, but I wonder if we can pull up any old articles where they tell us how "dedicated" they are to NCL? Perhaps, or how they feel confident about the base? We have more to offer them? That kind of stuff
I know to most people we're a little deprived outstation with nothing to offer anyone...
but I think all we need is a chance, Ryanair is starting to give us that, but they don't fly to the right airports (yet) and have been known to mess markets up a bit on occasion
Fingers crossed... Easyjet aren't really who they used to be, all about London and going head to head with anyone and everyone. It's a sad state really, try and make your own market instead of stealing other people's
I really hope we don't see them ditch... But if they must insist on sitting there with their thumbs up their arses then good riddance... But it worries me that if they do leave, we'll lose routes like Geneva, Nice etc. with no-one to replace them (not in the same way anyway, x2 weekly flights from Jet2 isn't the same) and the selection of EU city routes from NCL is dire as it is anyway. Then we could lose Bristol as well, I don't know if Ryanair would go for it or not.
I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it... If I was easyjet I would be:
- Sorting out the scheduling on key routes like BRS/BFS from NCL, offer times people want! Nobody wants to land in Bristol at 21:30 on a Wednesday night! Then maybe if Ryanair does start NCL-BFS, people will pick EZY because 1. They've been in the market for years, 2. Their NCL based timings are better than FR's BFS based timings
- Be flexible, be proactive, offer something new:
----- Too much competition from VY to BCN? Cut 2 weekly frequencies, start 2 weekly Lisbon.
----- NCL crew too expensive on PMI runs? Transfer daily NCL-PMI to daily PMI-NCL, start x4 weekly Milan, x3 weekly Munich.
----- Ryanair eating into your AGP/ALC profits too much (because they're half the price, more customer orientated and offer pretty much the same hard product... But with 2 hand luggages?)? Cut x2 AGP, x2 ALC, give us x1 weekly Mykonos, x3 weekly Berlin/Venice
----- While you're at it, give a bit more outsourcing a go and see if you can shove in x2/3 Isle of Man runs
Obviously it's more complicated than my slightly frustrated tongue in cheek response above and would require a lot more shuffling around than I made out, but I wonder if we can pull up any old articles where they tell us how "dedicated" they are to NCL? Perhaps, or how they feel confident about the base? We have more to offer them? That kind of stuff
I know to most people we're a little deprived outstation with nothing to offer anyone...
but I think all we need is a chance, Ryanair is starting to give us that, but they don't fly to the right airports (yet) and have been known to mess markets up a bit on occasion Fingers crossed... Easyjet aren't really who they used to be, all about London and going head to head with anyone and everyone. It's a sad state really, try and make your own market instead of stealing other people's
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EZY will always have a very different portfolio to holiday airlines such as LS/TOM/TCX. They don't have an in house holiday operator like they other three. EasyJet Holidays is just not pushed the same. Ryanair will only serve NCL similarly to EZY and that is relatively high frequency busy sun destinations. There will be nowhere exotic for either EZY or FR.
Those with established in house tour operators will try the newer routes but it will only be once a week and highly seasonal. That's not really what EZY or FR are about. Yes there are some low frequency seasonal routes however they provide year round services at a time when LS pretty much shut down. In fact on some days in winter, EZY is the only airline with any based aircraft operating ANY flights.
EZY will never be more than 3 based aircraft. The base is fairly busy and some of the aircraft we extremely high utilisation. A recent article mentioned above claims that NCL commands some higher fares. Coupled with above average onboard spend, it could very well be that NCL provides great ROCE.
They could operate AMS, OPO, LIS, VCE, NAP, HAM, TLS, LYS or they could have done FCO when it existed. The fact that they didn't suggests that the NCL base can support holiday flights but will struggle with anything city related. However if/when EZY open ACE/AGP/FAO then I do believe NCL/GLA/LPL/BFS could be at risk. They could then cover FAO/PMI/AGP/ACE/NCE/GVA/BFS/BRS/BCN from their respective bases - this could well be the plan.
If I was NCL I'd be making sure they were happy. I wouldn't want to loose the parking charges for 1095 aircraft nights per year, nor would I want to loose the car parking for all of the EZY employees as EZY actually pay for these. FR will bring pax but they won't bring me those charges? They certainly won't bring new routes that for sure - they'll just galvanised ready made markets that are already operated by the based airlines.
Also if EZY left after 12+ years it wouldn't send a great message to the airlines after flyBE also recently went, LS are practically summer only and the other two airline bring just 3 aircraft each. Would I want to open an aircraft base there given that track record? Probably not.
Those with established in house tour operators will try the newer routes but it will only be once a week and highly seasonal. That's not really what EZY or FR are about. Yes there are some low frequency seasonal routes however they provide year round services at a time when LS pretty much shut down. In fact on some days in winter, EZY is the only airline with any based aircraft operating ANY flights.
EZY will never be more than 3 based aircraft. The base is fairly busy and some of the aircraft we extremely high utilisation. A recent article mentioned above claims that NCL commands some higher fares. Coupled with above average onboard spend, it could very well be that NCL provides great ROCE.
They could operate AMS, OPO, LIS, VCE, NAP, HAM, TLS, LYS or they could have done FCO when it existed. The fact that they didn't suggests that the NCL base can support holiday flights but will struggle with anything city related. However if/when EZY open ACE/AGP/FAO then I do believe NCL/GLA/LPL/BFS could be at risk. They could then cover FAO/PMI/AGP/ACE/NCE/GVA/BFS/BRS/BCN from their respective bases - this could well be the plan.
If I was NCL I'd be making sure they were happy. I wouldn't want to loose the parking charges for 1095 aircraft nights per year, nor would I want to loose the car parking for all of the EZY employees as EZY actually pay for these. FR will bring pax but they won't bring me those charges? They certainly won't bring new routes that for sure - they'll just galvanised ready made markets that are already operated by the based airlines.
Also if EZY left after 12+ years it wouldn't send a great message to the airlines after flyBE also recently went, LS are practically summer only and the other two airline bring just 3 aircraft each. Would I want to open an aircraft base there given that track record? Probably not.
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I believe that FR won't be sun routes only but we will have to wait and see.
Easyjet makes a lot of money from ncl due to the lack of competition.
Easyjet will have to make sure the times and prices are better than the others
Easyjet makes a lot of money from ncl due to the lack of competition.
Easyjet will have to make sure the times and prices are better than the others
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Nobody wants to land in Bristol at 21:30 on a Wednesday night!
When easyJet used to operate 3 x daily (4 x daily for a while) I used the service several times.
Taking one year as an example, my 2006 timetable shows 3 x daily Monday to Friday and Sunday with one rotation on Saturdays, with all rotations operated by NCL-based aircraft.
There were departures from NCL at 0700, 1600 and 1925 with the return services getting back into NCL at 0935, 1830 and 2155.
I agree about the disappointing timings and frequencies of the current timetable with midweek particularly poorly served (this timetable has been in place now for a year or two and next winter seems no better) but one has to accept that easyJet knows what it's doing and has decided that better options lie in other directions.
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Hmmm - I've arrived back in Bristol at 22:00 and been home near Bracknell by 23:30 - the M5/M4 is empty at that time of night and you don't even have to break the speed limit