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I don't think the Manx government subsidises routes, though it does own Ronalsway Airport. I'd imagine manx2.com is doing this on an entirely commercial basis.
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IOM is open skys so no subsidy from anyone here for anything.
Manx2 took up Easterns old LBA route and look to have made that work. 12 pax on their 19 seaters seems to work but 12 pax on a j41 is horrid.
Hope you guys will enjoy the Metros Do228s and L410s
. I'm betting the timetable is back to match Easterns next March
Manx2 took up Easterns old LBA route and look to have made that work. 12 pax on their 19 seaters seems to work but 12 pax on a j41 is horrid.Hope you guys will enjoy the Metros Do228s and L410s
. I'm betting the timetable is back to match Easterns next March
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Easyjet summer 2010
The complete programme up to the end of June is now released and it is a 5 aircraft base at the moment. I know its 6 aircraft now but was it 5 up to the end of June this year as well?.
On another subject there are no Toronto flights available for Summer 2010 for the first time in many years.
On another subject there are no Toronto flights available for Summer 2010 for the first time in many years.
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Wow, that's a lot of cruise flights. My suspicions were confirmed for my folks cruise flight, TOM B767. I hope it's a FCA a/c they fly on, may have a bit more room than the normal TOM a/c.
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Ryanair have gone to LBA. NCL has so much more potential, and more unserved destinations that could have worked. Very surprised this has happened.
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MIke
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Having tried and failed to get a flight from NCL to Paphos in early December, I'm not sure the Winter Timetable is entirely accurate. With Ryanair muscling in on Jet2 at Leeds there might be a possibilty of a couple of extra Jet2 routes from Newcastle next summer rather than taking on Ryanair head-on. Krakow? Venice? But I doubt they will add anything for the winter.
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Did anyone at NCL actually expect to get FR. I always thought that the NE FR base would go to either LBA or MME. MME because they are desperate and would give FR what they wanted to get in and LBA because again they were more likely to come up with the right deal.
I really think we need to ask the the question as to whether DL is up to the job of running NCL, as on his watch the airport has faired a lot worse than others of a similar size in UK, look at how the likes of Bristol or Liverpool continue to attract new routes and airlines. He appears to have worked all his life for the top job just to realise he cant actually do it.
I really think we need to ask the the question as to whether DL is up to the job of running NCL, as on his watch the airport has faired a lot worse than others of a similar size in UK, look at how the likes of Bristol or Liverpool continue to attract new routes and airlines. He appears to have worked all his life for the top job just to realise he cant actually do it.
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As I said earlier on in this thread, there was no way Ryanair were going to set up a base at Newcastle. We already have easy, Jet 2 and Flybe. Having Ryanair base here would flood the market with too much capacity for not enough demand. DL probably already knows this and didn't even look to attract Ryanair. I could see Jet 2 being 
off with Ryanair moving in on there patch at LBA.
ncleflights. Yes I do think DL is up to the job. Now if you work for NIAL then you will know exactly the reasosns as to why I'm saying he is. These are very difficult times. Don't forget Newcastle won the 3rd TCX 757 for the summer competing against every other regional airport in the country and we are still continuing to do well in the these difficult times. I'm sure new airlines and routes will appear as and when demand returns
off with Ryanair moving in on there patch at LBA.ncleflights. Yes I do think DL is up to the job. Now if you work for NIAL then you will know exactly the reasosns as to why I'm saying he is. These are very difficult times. Don't forget Newcastle won the 3rd TCX 757 for the summer competing against every other regional airport in the country and we are still continuing to do well in the these difficult times. I'm sure new airlines and routes will appear as and when demand returns
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Jet2 are looking to make big moves into NCL, transan with a newish 757 as LBA is currently not suitable in the current economic climate and this info coming from a reliable source. JFK/SSH regular flights on the cards coming up, short haul not so secure as Jet2 worried about interest in the developments at CAX with FR and GSM showing interest in flying for free from the airport when developed.
If Jet2 are worried about FR and GSM going into CAX they're in more trouble than I thought - CAX is not aiming for that market and will not be capable of taking 737's and the like on "bucket and spade" flights
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I cant see any expansion from any of the current major players at NCL including jet2, not given the current recession and the fact ncle seems to be fairing worse that other UK airports of a similar size. Just look at how ncle is falling, based of pax figures, in the league table of UK airports.
Opsguy - what evidence do you have that DL and the rest of the management team at NCL are up to the job? On his 'watch' weve lost more routes and seen a bigger drop in pax figures than similar sized airports in the UK and what new services has he managed to bring in? This is reflected in yet another delay in the opening of the new hotel as the current rapid decline means that their aint enough people to warrant it opening.
Now with Ryanair based to the North of us in Edinburgh and South of us at Leeds this squeeze in pax figures will continue.
Opsguy - what evidence do you have that DL and the rest of the management team at NCL are up to the job? On his 'watch' weve lost more routes and seen a bigger drop in pax figures than similar sized airports in the UK and what new services has he managed to bring in? This is reflected in yet another delay in the opening of the new hotel as the current rapid decline means that their aint enough people to warrant it opening.
Now with Ryanair based to the North of us in Edinburgh and South of us at Leeds this squeeze in pax figures will continue.
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FR have a habit of looking to directly compete (undercut) on routes with other locos and full service carriers, look at the new routes from LBA, nine of them will be run in direct competition with Jet2 who up to now have had pretty much a free run down there.
How fiercely FR will go with the cost cutting is yet to be seen but it will certainly seem more attractive for Jet2 to operate in what has been up to now an almost competition free environment, like here at NCL. Appreciate there are other carriers but many of the routes are high load factor and there isn't the aggresive anti competitor stance we have seen in the past from FR. Jet2's other bases are already served by other carriers and I see NCL being ripe for expansion, especially to the non bucket and spade places.
I think this move seeing FR basing at LBA will in fact benefit NCL greatly in the months to come (well next summer season anyway).
How fiercely FR will go with the cost cutting is yet to be seen but it will certainly seem more attractive for Jet2 to operate in what has been up to now an almost competition free environment, like here at NCL. Appreciate there are other carriers but many of the routes are high load factor and there isn't the aggresive anti competitor stance we have seen in the past from FR. Jet2's other bases are already served by other carriers and I see NCL being ripe for expansion, especially to the non bucket and spade places.
I think this move seeing FR basing at LBA will in fact benefit NCL greatly in the months to come (well next summer season anyway).
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Newcastle is still doing Ok
Hiya, yes I totally agree with you and also Opsguy above. Newcastle is still doing well with what its got. I fly fairly regularly through NCL and the load factors are generally, always very strong indeed. I think its much better for future growth to have this period of consolidation now and to use it as a basis to grow again. I dont know whether having FR as a base is very healthy at the moment. They seem far to fickle and if they dont get what they want, they then threaten all sorts of corporate hell and damnation!! Look at what they are doing at STN and DUB. I would hate to think we would be in a situation of having nothing but FR operating from an airport, they could hold the authorities to ranson and the travelling public. At least we have proper scheduled links to major primary hubs, a bit of low cost, and a healthy charter operation year round. Its makes things far more interesting, and its far better having the EK service for instance than lots of little LCC routes to unknown airfields which overtime may not be sustainable. Bristol and Liverpool have still lost an awful lot of routes too, and I dont think Liverpool has much charter activity at all! I checked their website recently and its all lowcost and the KLM route, thats it. A far cry from when they had Thomson there and the GSM Newyork flight. Everywhere is going through a lul at the moment and we just have to grit and bare it, by maintaining what we have already here at Newcastle will bode well for the future, I am sure.
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There are airports worse off than Newcastle, but it's optimistic to say that the airport is holding on to what it has. That's largely true of the bucket and spade and domestic routes, but the airport is not doing well re Central and Eastern Europe and Scandinavia is back down to Stavanger. It also does not appear to be able to report July's figures to the CAA. That's shoddy work by someone.