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Old 30th Aug 2015, 15:54
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The profitability of any service is dependent upon the number of people that use the service and in the case of an airline, the fares paid exceeding costs so a decent return may be secured. Out of interest, how many of us participants on this thread can hold our hands up and say we have used it this summer? I am writing waiting for a United flight to Newark and then tonight's flight to Newcastle before anyone asks and I normally fly One World. Just doing my bit for the North East as I also did earlier this summer. My money at present is on the service returning but it will prosper and grow only if it is used more than I understand it was at times this summer. Lots of great places to visit in the States from New York to Hawaii and all points in between. Then there's Canada, the Caribbean plus Central America as well. The winner for me is once you clear security in the U.S. at your origin point that's it - no more queuing for security and then you reach Newcastle first thing in the morning rather than killing time at Heathrow, Amsetdam or CDG. Let us keep our fingers crossed and then hopefully we can then start planning next year's holiday using United.
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Old 30th Aug 2015, 16:43
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Do United Vacations still sell in the UK? I used them years ago out of MME via LHR for a Vegas trip and an Orlando trip. It would be easier to fill the plane if they could offer holidays on it.
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Old 30th Aug 2015, 17:59
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I will hold my hands up and say I HAVENT used the service.

I would like to have used the service but due to me booking an expensive family holiday to Spain with other family members I couldn't afford both.

I hope that the service does come back as I'm holding off booking anything.
I'm busy saving the pennies again now just incase
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 14:48
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My desperate pleas for a weekend in New York unfortunately failed this summer, however my dad has always wanted to go to Hawaii, so I am very much hoping that trip might be possible next year after I've finished school... Using United of course
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 12:51
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I've just seen a discrepancy... Bmi Regional is to operate Newcastle - Stansted, Monday - Friday in the middle of the day for Flybe... How do they intend to do this when some of their Brussels flights are still bookable as 3 daily (Wed-Fri) having the aircraft away from NCL at the time it is supposed to be flying to STN?

Just checked for 11th November and it appears the aircraft is double booked
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 14:20
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You are right about that, although the 3 daily frequency seems to only operate on Wed/Thurs, so the Mon/Tues/Fri operation can operate with the same aircraft.

Has anyone heard how BMI will handle the Wed/Thurs flights ?
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 14:27
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Another discrepancy is that the STN is being operated by a ER4. However BRU is showing as operating on a ER3 for W15.
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 15:43
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Could this be the start of a 2nd based aircraft and maybe some new routes?
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 16:20
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FRANKFURT FRANFURT FRANKFURT!!!

But that is strange :/ Unless Flybe is using Bmi Regional from Newcastle for some more of their flights?

Does Flybe base a Dash 8 at Newcastle? I've just looked at Southampton and the flights originate from Newcastle
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 16:45
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Or the mid day Brussels being dropped to accommodate STN? Bit late for new routes.

Not sure what you mean about the Dash8 - it comes from SOU at 08.20, currently goes to STN, but in winter will go back to SOU at 08.45?
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 16:45
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An ER4 can be pretty restricted out of SOU I believe
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 17:06
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An ER4 can be pretty restricted out of SOU I believe
How so?. I know that British Regional Airlines operated the 49 seat ER4 (ERJ 145EU variant) to destinations such as BRU, EDI, GLA, FRA and ZRH without restriction. The only time I have heard about any restrictions was when Brymon introduced there ER4's and I believe the restrictions was specific to the 50 seat ERJ 145EP variant.

I think we will see the BRU switch to being operated by a ER4, with the lunchtime flights being dropped and the aircraft being used to operate the STN.

Another option would work is to base a ER4 at NCL which could operate NCL-SOU-NCL-STN-NCL-SOU-NCL-SOU-NCL. The aircraft could operate weekday service as shown below.

BE6xxx NCL 07:00 SOU 08:15
BE6xxx SOU 08:50 NCL 10:05

BE6881 NCL 11:00 STN 12:15
BE6882 STN 12:45 NCL 14:00

BE6xxx NCL 14:45 SOU 16:00
BE6xxx SOU 16:30 NCL 17:45

BE6xxx NCL 18:15 SOU 19:30
BE6xxx SOU 20:00 NCL 21:15

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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 20:44
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I see the airport aren't sending a team to the World Routes forum in Durban. Have they really got nothing that they can show off to other airports or potential airlines in the way of marketting the area for any new routes? Even DTVA are sending a team...
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 21:04
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Even DTVA are sending a team...
Peel are sending a team...
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 10:53
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Dublin still 9 x weekly

Looks like Alicante may be operating 5 x weekly (no Mon/Fri).
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 11:24
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Good news that they are increasing ALC
Just a shame it's already a route well served.

Ryanair could make a go at so many other routes like they have in the past.
They would all have made money maybe be not the same as routes from London but still a profit and get the brand better known for a choice of airline for ncl!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 16:10
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I see the airport aren't sending a team to the World Routes forum in Durban. Have they really got nothing that they can show off to other airports or potential airlines in the way of marketing the area for any new routes?
It's just a glorified "Beano"! Personally I don't see the benefit in supporting any NCL team on such a jolly, well done to them in staying away !!!

Even DTVA are sending a team...
Well that just about confirms it !!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 16:33
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Ref UA, to me the writing is on the wall, booking engine fully loaded of EDI-EWR 2016 flights & nothing for NCL. It's simply not good enough to refer to late installation of 2015 flights as an excuse for future conduct, as this was start up.
No seat marketed equals no seats sold
It's abundantly clear to most that IF a positive decision had been adopted (aka the EWR mechanic) then the message would be out there by now, instead of simply "going to ground" until presumably 8th September following last flight.
In May we had the water canons, I suspect on the 7th September it's more likely to be thehandkerchiefs
I hope I'm wrong, though realistically what comfort is there, they are practically giving away seats on last flights, i.e sectors c.257 as per website, but shopping around then you may achieve even further discounting
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 17:23
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I hope your wrong skyman!!

However a few people did say to me that they would wait until the route finished before putting anything on sale for next year.

I believe they didn't put these flights on sale till November 2015?

So we still have time left ...... ( IM DREAMING )
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 18:04
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It wont be staying or going until its ended. Its a good edition to the airport but if it goes it goes , It isnt viable on a 757 forever anyway and once they start retiring them it would of went IMO ! We have been spoilt by a world class Airline like EK on a massive 777 which wont be too far off a 2nd Daily IMO , West will have to wait if it doesnt return
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