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Old 9th Feb 2013, 16:25
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It does seem strange because the pax figures have been on a rising trend over 2011/12 with a peak of 4,646 in September. I have no idea of yields on the route but those figures seem to be pretty encouraging to me. This is one of NCL's oldest operating routes.
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 17:27
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It is not being axed, It is being handed back to SN Brussels Airlines, I presume they have not sorted the Summer Timetable out yet !!!
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 17:53
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The SN flights had been loaded - I noted them only the other week and they had the RJ85 operating.

They have seem been removed from GDS and the Brussels Airlines site.

You are right of course this does not mean they have finished and it could be just an airline or frequency change.

However SN have been reducing their summer UK offerings from most airports (except EDI) if airlineroute.net is correct with Manchester staying at three a day, BHX now is showing 1 x RJ100, 4 x DH8D (2 x BE and 2 x TYR) and I also believe a LHR rotation is been removed and GDS seems to confirm this with the 20.10 ex LHR not showing.

It might be a case of holding tight for a week or so but things UK wide seem to be changing.

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Old 9th Feb 2013, 18:34
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I thought NCL-BRU was operated by Flybe in SN livery for Brussels Airlines as at Bristol. Wasn't NCL switched to this operation from the previous bmi regional (for SN) airline at the beginning of the current winter as at BRS?

If NCL is being axed so presumably might Bristol though at the moment the booking engine is available for BRS-BRU flights this summer utilising Flybe aircraft.
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 19:45
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Hi MV

NCL is currently operated by a BE/SN DH8D but around a month ago it changed in GDS to 3 x a day (Mon-Fri, reduced weekend service) RJ85 of Brussels Airlines for summer 2013.

This was around the same time EDI - BRU changed from one daily SN 319 to 2 x daily SN/BE Q400 (Mon-Fri), which night-stops EDI.

Bristol is still showing 3 x daily (in the week) DH8D of SN/BE with the United code-share on the first out.

Things seem to be changing all the time as BHX went from 4 x RJ100, 1 x DH8D to 3 x RJ100, 2 x DH8D to 2 x RJ100 to 3 x DH8D and is now showing 1 x RJ100 and 4 x DH8D. This all in the last four or five weeks so there must be some hope for the NCL service.

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Old 10th Feb 2013, 10:56
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That Page says the Brussels Flights are staying, I know they talk a lot of crap but why would they drop a popular Route?
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Old 10th Feb 2013, 12:11
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Its not...

It is not being axed
You said so!
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Old 10th Feb 2013, 14:18
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I dont think "popular" and profitable are the same things...
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 02:48
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Olton Pete.

NCL-BRU is operated 3x daily using Flybe DH8D in SN Brussels Airlines colours, not RJ85s.
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 09:14
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I emailed brusselsairlines, as this is a route I use regularly, and got the slightly unclear reply below:

From: callcenter.en [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 11 February 2013 10:31
Subject: RE: General contact


Thank you for your e-mail

We regret to inform you that we have interrupt BRUNCL route as of start of Summer 2013 season (March 31st13). Sorry for the inconveniences.

For further information don't hesitate to contact us back.

Kind regards
Brussels Airlines


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Old 11th Feb 2013, 12:15
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I was referring to what was showing in GDS for summer 13 but my post wasn't clear enough and I have changed it

Originally summer 13 was shown as 3 x DH8D then it changed to 3 x SN RJ85 and then it disappeared - apologies for the confusion.

Pete

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Old 11th Feb 2013, 15:47
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Can't believe we have lost this route altogether !!
3x daily to gone with 3000 pax using this route per month something just isn't adding up??

Is this just because lack of aircraft for the route with Flybe moving the aircraft to edi?
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 15:51
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3000 per month? That's horrendous - no wonder its been dropped
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 15:55
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Pax number above is wrong. its up to 4000 per month now

averaging out at 112 pax per day (removing saturday they dont operate)
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 16:49
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The actual pax figures are: Sept 4,646, Oct 4568, Nov 4397, Dec 3604, (note that December includes the Christmas holiday period which accounts for the much lower take up).
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 17:28
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So that equates to about 27 ish per flight. More suited to the BMIR aircraft that previously operated on this route or 2 flights a day on the Q400.

I think the numbers are similar to those of BRS that retains the Flybe 3x daily flight. Of course numbers are not everything.

The Flybe aircraft that currently operates this route appears to be going up to EDI to do the 2 scheduled rotations per day.

Hope this is not a sign of things to come!!

The steady decline continues.

Any good news?
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 19:31
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They did state NCL were in there plans for summer 2013 so maybe they will be back to this route??

With figures like that they must be making money and how many out of those numbers connect onto onward flights with them
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 21:28
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...just like ABZ, GLA and EDI were in their plans....
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 09:25
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It's fair to say that bmir jumped at Manchester-Antwerp when it was abandoned by a previous carrier. I'd have thought that NCL-BRU would have the same if not more potential for them.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 10:21
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Brussels Airlines tweeted me this morning confirming that they have cancelled they Newcastle route from the end of the winter season. The airport also said that they are now looking for alternatives carriers for the route. So does it appear that we have lost the route for the benefit of the Edinburgh route who gained the DH8 to operate its routes?
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