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Old 4th Jun 2010, 15:51
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Thanks for the figures.
I dont think May '09 was a great month, and i think RYANAIR had spat their dummy out by then, and there is yet another double digit decrease, i would really like to know what MAPLC marketing have been doing to redress this....!!!!
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i would really like to know what MAPLC marketing have been doing to redress this....!!!!
As soon as tweedle dee and tweedle dum made a promise to ruin London's dominance as the world city for international travel, they basically made MAPLC's marketing department redundant.

There will become a point where there is simply no way for airlines to continue to expand in London and Manchester will benefit from this: 2 runways and tons of slots available. If the marketing department are on commission I think they'll be able to put their kids through Eton should the government hold their idiotic plan for 5+ years.

and i think RYANAIR had spat their dummy out by then
BBC NEWS | Business | Ryanair closing Manchester routes

I think you should stop 'thinking...'
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Old 4th Jun 2010, 18:10
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What airlines & the marketing dept are doing

Let's see:
BE restoring the seasonal French links, adding a new French link plus 2 new domestic routes
AA restoring their former JFK run (perhaps with the expected ATI making it year-round and not just seasonal - it's slated for a return around 11th May 2011)
DL looks to be going back to year-round for JFK
EK is bringing in the A380 (not a moment too soon) and I expect a frequency bump in the not too distant future.
EY using 777s from the 7th June and hints of them increasing frequency
WW saying that MAN is getting new routes
U2 having the effect of 5 based aircraft this summer (up from 3 last summer) adn I expect new destinations to be added for winter given there is scope within the flying programme (perhaps leading to based aircraft 6 when all this year's summer seasonal routes get restored next summer)
LS adding destinations and bumped up frequencies on a couple of routes
EI stating a daily route to SNN
VS adding a route to LAS and compensating for A330s to Orlando by boosting frequencies
SQ boosting frequency (though it looks like it caausing a bit of drop in pax carried with it beinh shared with MUC)
CX perhaps starting in the short-to-medium term

Rumours of an August announcement for a new long-haul route (not CX I am led to believe).
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Old 4th Jun 2010, 19:26
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Grrr T 1 arrivals - work required!

Arrived back at Man today and things were actually very very good, UNTIL we tried to get out of T 1 Arrivals Hall - Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear !

First of all let me say that until this point it had all been superb. Aircarft arrived on stand without too much delay, the airbridge was attached promptly and we began de-planning within a couple of minutes. Pier C, with all the work being done on the travelators (I think??) looked a we bit tatty, but hey-ho. Arrived at Immigration along with some other pax off a couple of other flights who'd arrived just before us, but it only took a couple of minutes again to get through to baggage reclaim, where our bags were already on the magic roundabout awaiting collection! Top-job to one and all.
However on collecting bags we had to join a queue at the customs point. It didn't matter if it was Goods to declare / nothing to declare/ from within the EU, it was all one big mele. There were even some pax from the Emirates flight inbound stuck in this queue (we had just seen the said a/c taxy for departure as we landed), so I don't know what they thought of this debacle. And what caused all this? It was the 3 double-ended automatic exit doors to the public land-side, about 50 yds ahead! One was out of service and barriered off, the middle one was working at 10% capacity, and the other one wasn't working properly at all, as it was permanently open (Both doors). So we had about 450 pax trying to get through one door with all their bags, - farcical.

They need about ten doors if they are going to cope with 580 pax off an A.380 all hitting this area along with other pax.

Why is it considered neccessary to put in these choke points? It isn't much better when you emerge into the arrivals concourse, as you have hardly any room for manoevere, but there's plenty of space to sit and have a butty.

Come on H2o-man, make this an area to urgently improve, and do it right this time (at the fifth attempt)

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Old 5th Jun 2010, 19:46
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Simple fact is that the exit doors at baggage reclaim have to be a one way system... We used to have security personnel that sat there but they were deemed to be more expensive than the doors they have in now. Also, how could you possibly know that one of the doors was working at "about 10% capacity"? Me thinks it was more along the lines of the British travelling public's fascination with impersonating lemmings, and all simply queueing up at one door instead of using the other 2 that were available. I see it happen all day long.
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 00:33
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ok, something puzzles me..............

One was out of service and barriered off, the middle one was working at 10% capacity, and the other one wasn't working properly at all, as it was permanently open (Both doors). So we had about 450 pax trying to get through one door with all their bags, - farcical.
so if one set of doors was permanantly open (both doors, as stated in the post), why was everyone trying to get through just 1 set of doors, when there was a straight through clear route?

or am i missing something here?
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 03:01
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How's the night time work on the airfield getting on? Taxiway improvements and runway 1 re-surfacing? Completion date before 1st Sep? When is Pier B extenstion work taking place with it's 2 airbridges?
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 08:47
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Airbridge installation is July / August.....Its not leave much time for delays
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 10:45
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With ref. to the exit doors, when we came through on the 29 May, one door was out of action. Although we had no trouble passing through,I could imagine it would cause delay at busy times.

Also noticed on going through security in terminal 1, that some of the lanes had a similar
arrangement,but did not go through one, nor went for a closer inspection.
I think I know why they are fitted,but does anybody know the correct reason.
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 22:07
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The doors are to stop passengers who've already arrived landside, or meeters and greeters, or staff, from gaining entry to the Customs Hall, and from there to anywhere else airside. Two reasons: they might engage with passengers to defraud Customs, or they might smuggle banned substances/explosives/weapons airside as of course they won't have been x-rayed.

The "duty free" shop corridor is actually landside. The airside/landside boundary is somewhere between the Customs hall and that shop. MA just pretend it's airside to create the impression of "duty free" er "bargains".
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Old 6th Jun 2010, 22:49
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Reference May 10 Traffic Stats

May 09 figures were boosted by MUFC involvement in the Champions League semi final and final - so probably not as bad as they first apear.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 05:13
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It shows you just how important European football is for the airport. This season will see United in the Champions League and City in the Europa League which should mean that things improve for the airport on that front assuming they don't both get knocked out early.
To a lesser extent, both Liverpool and Aston Villa are in the Europa league too and opposition fans may choose a scheduled flight to Manchester for those games.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 08:10
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Bottleneck in T1

When working in the baggage hall I have to tell passengers not to load their trolleys wide with luggage as it will not go through the doors, but off they go and guess what happens they become trapped in the doors and the queue builds up very quickly. No airport staff in area so this makes matters worse. Passengers don't read the screen adverts about the trolleys.
Why 2 doors in T3 and only 3 in T1 given the number of passengers arriving at T1 at peak times?
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 09:08
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Etihad

Etihad to upgrade to 773 within the next two weeks. No info on the exact date, sorry.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 09:40
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Etihad B773 is from next monday, its been scheduled to change for a while.
Etihad are also opening a lounge at MAN soo, in preparation for 2xdaily flights in winter.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 11:03
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Etihad

Actually, it looks like the 773 will start this Sunday.

Do you know when they intend to open the lounge?
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 11:13
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First one will be on the 12th June.

Cheers.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 13:46
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Etihad capacity upgrade was announced 18/02/10.
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 17:16
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Re: Airbridge installation at the end of Pier B, this will be gate??? Extension work will bet taking place first I assume? Surley the extension won't be the same height as Pier B currentley is?! I can see it now, given the current height of Pier B and the height of the A380, how stupid it would look compared to the A380 at Heathrow and other international airports it currenyley flies to
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Old 7th Jun 2010, 18:52
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Sorry if this has been covered - I did a quick search first but no joy...

Mate of mine says Emirates will be doing two A380 flights a day into Manchester this year. I know they are doing one - but two, seriously?

Aside from the fact I'll believe it when I see it, you know how things can change, is this in their plans currently?
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