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Sorry I had complete blindness to the name in my earlier post, it was jet airways.
In terms of largest, I think jet2 had the claim to largest amount of leisure traffic, but not sure of the actual numbers.
In terms of largest, I think jet2 had the claim to largest amount of leisure traffic, but not sure of the actual numbers.
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I dont think BE will have that large a number. Despite frequency, they only operate Dash-8's and E195's, against the B757's and A320 family of the charters.
Id imagine easyjet have a large number with their 5 based units, 4 of them being A320's and even a based away A319 for the Genevas.
Talking of easyjet, there seems to be speculation that the DSA frame will be shifted to MAN in January, as all winter routes for DSA end in December, but all other winter timetables go right through to Feb. Mix this with talk that a 6th based frame will be added to the fleet, and AMS is being added to MAN's schedules (a DSA route), it seems to add up.
Id imagine easyjet have a large number with their 5 based units, 4 of them being A320's and even a based away A319 for the Genevas.
Talking of easyjet, there seems to be speculation that the DSA frame will be shifted to MAN in January, as all winter routes for DSA end in December, but all other winter timetables go right through to Feb. Mix this with talk that a 6th based frame will be added to the fleet, and AMS is being added to MAN's schedules (a DSA route), it seems to add up.
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United Utilities boss to be Manchester Airport chief - Manchester Evening News
Well looks like a senior Board member from United Utilities is set to be MAG boss.
Personally I think it would have been nice to pick up a boss with a successful and sustained track record in aviation, with influences at Government level, but I guess we will have to wait and see ..........
He is is Ex BAe so I guesss thats something and at least the baton hasn't been automatically handed to somebody already on the MAG board.
I'm still trying to work out how the present incumbent managed a "significant performance bonus" in 2009 BUT based on figures for 2007-2008
I'm all for rewarding performance but hang on, we were deep in recession by end of 2008 !!!
Comments anybody ?
Well looks like a senior Board member from United Utilities is set to be MAG boss.
Personally I think it would have been nice to pick up a boss with a successful and sustained track record in aviation, with influences at Government level, but I guess we will have to wait and see ..........
He is is Ex BAe so I guesss thats something and at least the baton hasn't been automatically handed to somebody already on the MAG board.
I'm still trying to work out how the present incumbent managed a "significant performance bonus" in 2009 BUT based on figures for 2007-2008
I'm all for rewarding performance but hang on, we were deep in recession by end of 2008 !!!
Comments anybody ?
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I'm still trying to work out how the present incumbent managed a "significant performance bonus" in 2009 BUT based on figures for 2007-2008
I'm all for rewarding performance but hang on, we were deep in recession by end of 2008
I'm all for rewarding performance but hang on, we were deep in recession by end of 2008
Assuming the appointment of a new MAG CX is confirmed, it's going to get very confusing, with the CX and the MAN MD both called Cornish. Perhaps it'll become known as the Charlie and Andrew show?
Are they in any way related? I think we should be told......
Suzeman
According to the Consumer Council for water, United Utilities had the highest increase in customer complaints in 2008/9 (up 11,000 on the previous year) than any other provider.
It will be interesting to see how the MAG approach to customer service
is handled under the new Management. I was hoping for some significant improvement...............but we shall wait & see.
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See "Heathrow Plans 3rd Runway scrapped Thread"
BHX should hopefully be the biggest winner ?
Birmingham Airport Welcomes New Thinking Outlined in The Queen's Speech - Birmingham Airport
Birmingham Offers Solution to the 'Heathrow Problem' - Birmingham Airport
Do we actually have a marketing/PR dept at Manchester ?
......I refer to this thread as it precisly illustrates the real lack of ambition at MAN. The biggest announcement in years on the future of UK aviation and the noise from MAG marketing and senior managment was deafening........
Meanwhile BHX which punches far above its weight wades in with two stimulating press releases, which actually made Sky News and BBC-R4.
OK I appreciate it "may" be smoke and mirrors, but at least it's publicity and puts BHX in the public eye and more importantly possibly raises the profile in the minds of the Government .
It's not as if this wasn't coming, it was an excellent opportunity to do a bit of flag waving and get some national exposre on the back of a Governement announcement.
It's infuriating and just bloody typical to see opportunities missed all the time .....
Hopefully "The Water Bearer" can stiffen things up.....
BHX should hopefully be the biggest winner ?
Birmingham Airport Welcomes New Thinking Outlined in The Queen's Speech - Birmingham Airport
Birmingham Offers Solution to the 'Heathrow Problem' - Birmingham Airport
Do we actually have a marketing/PR dept at Manchester ?
......I refer to this thread as it precisly illustrates the real lack of ambition at MAN. The biggest announcement in years on the future of UK aviation and the noise from MAG marketing and senior managment was deafening........
Meanwhile BHX which punches far above its weight wades in with two stimulating press releases, which actually made Sky News and BBC-R4.
OK I appreciate it "may" be smoke and mirrors, but at least it's publicity and puts BHX in the public eye and more importantly possibly raises the profile in the minds of the Government .
It's not as if this wasn't coming, it was an excellent opportunity to do a bit of flag waving and get some national exposre on the back of a Governement announcement.
It's infuriating and just bloody typical to see opportunities missed all the time .....
Hopefully "The Water Bearer" can stiffen things up.....
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It doesnt really need a huge PR announcement.
How many airlines do you know will watch sky news etc and think 'oh, BHX is apparently available'. And when was the last time a new route started over something they saw in the news?
The airlines will already know where they need to go and where has the best infrastructure for future expansion. Its not about the public announcements, its about what goes on behind the scenes.
Also, like I said in the other thread, most expansion of services will come from airlines already serving the south, and if they have a regional station, they will add frequency there rather than set up a new station. This means the likes of AA, BA, VS, JAI, CO, DL will look at MAN as it would be much much easier to set up extra flights there than set up a new station.
Frankly, MAN is quite clever not to announce itself for expansion. BHX may now be the target for protests against this and meanwhile, if MAN is speaking to airlines behind closed doors, can quietly ramp up flights. For example, if AA adds a flight here and there, no one will bat an eyelid because protesters are rarely spotters and think its ok as AA have been flying here since 86, so will just be the usual.
How many airlines do you know will watch sky news etc and think 'oh, BHX is apparently available'. And when was the last time a new route started over something they saw in the news?
The airlines will already know where they need to go and where has the best infrastructure for future expansion. Its not about the public announcements, its about what goes on behind the scenes.
Also, like I said in the other thread, most expansion of services will come from airlines already serving the south, and if they have a regional station, they will add frequency there rather than set up a new station. This means the likes of AA, BA, VS, JAI, CO, DL will look at MAN as it would be much much easier to set up extra flights there than set up a new station.
Frankly, MAN is quite clever not to announce itself for expansion. BHX may now be the target for protests against this and meanwhile, if MAN is speaking to airlines behind closed doors, can quietly ramp up flights. For example, if AA adds a flight here and there, no one will bat an eyelid because protesters are rarely spotters and think its ok as AA have been flying here since 86, so will just be the usual.
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New A333 routes from VS based at MAN..
Virgin Atlantic Airbus A330-300 Routes/Configuration Information AIRLINE ROUTE
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Things could indeed be looking up for MAN, although the evidence may be a while in coming yet. After a difficult few years MAN now has what LHR, LGW and to a large extent STN don't have - spare capacity at a time when building new airport infrastructure is out of favour. The runways could handle double the number of daily flights, the terminals have lots of capacity outside of the single morning peak hour, the airspace has slack, the surface transport links are already in place or have improvements in the pipeline (Metrolink / Manchester Rail Hub). No big expenditure required then, and crucially, no expansion of the site outside the existing perimeter. This makes environmental sense by using an already developed site to its full capacity rather than concreting other parts of the country and inviting negative attention to the industry. Further investment is required to improve and upgrade some existing facilities for sure - taxiways and older parts of Terminal 1 in particular, but these are not huge sums spread incrementally over several years. MAN has capacity to offer without handing around the hat to customers - it's already been built and the cost covered by existing charges. MAN has a fantastic customer base - dependent on no single airline or airline group. Loss of some high-profile routes over the years has made bad headlines, but think - the recent BA strikes are having negligible effect on MAN, and no one carrier has more than about 15% of total traffic, making the airport highly resilient to airline failures or strategy changes. It remains consistently profitable and has a prudent level of borrowings.
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"Do we actually have a marketing/PR dept at Manchester ? ......I refer to this thread as it precisly illustrates the real lack of ambition at MAN. The biggest announcement in years on the future of UK aviation and the noise from MAG marketing and senior managment was deafening........"
Thanks for your comments Bagso. The PR department can be contacted on 0161 489 2700. We are also available on Twitter, the website and via email.
Thanks for your comments Bagso. The PR department can be contacted on 0161 489 2700. We are also available on Twitter, the website and via email.
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Think Roverman has a Good Point!
Irrespective of what we think about MAN, its management team or anything else, outside of LHR it does have the widest range of operators of any airport. This leaves it in a very good place in many respects as you don't have the 'all eggs in one basket' scenario as an increasing number of UK airports are having, being dependent on the likes of EZY and RYR (as are the likes of STN and LGW to an increasing amount).
In fact, of all the UK airports outside of LHR, I think that MAN was uniquely placed to rebuff RYR, even though it resulted in a big hit on PAX. After all, the likes of LPL are posting around double-digit increases in PAX compared to this time last year, but ask yourself, how much money are they making??
As set out in the stratgey to 2030, MAN has the ability to add extra growth to around 30M without "excessive" investment (although significant investment will be required) and with no new runways planned in the SE until at least that date, given the current range of carriers, the major population in the N of England, plus the fact that it has 2 x 3000m runways leaves MAN with a bright future.
It is just a shame that some of the doom-mongers on this site can't look at the long-game rather than the short-term
In fact, of all the UK airports outside of LHR, I think that MAN was uniquely placed to rebuff RYR, even though it resulted in a big hit on PAX. After all, the likes of LPL are posting around double-digit increases in PAX compared to this time last year, but ask yourself, how much money are they making??
As set out in the stratgey to 2030, MAN has the ability to add extra growth to around 30M without "excessive" investment (although significant investment will be required) and with no new runways planned in the SE until at least that date, given the current range of carriers, the major population in the N of England, plus the fact that it has 2 x 3000m runways leaves MAN with a bright future.
It is just a shame that some of the doom-mongers on this site can't look at the long-game rather than the short-term
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May 2010 Traffic Stats - Manchester
May Pax - 1,590,747 down 8.21%
12 moths ending 31.05.10 - 17,923,030 down 11.89%
May Movements - 14,301 down 9.51%
Freigh - 10,375 up 34.95%
12 moths ending 31.05.10 - 17,923,030 down 11.89%
May Movements - 14,301 down 9.51%
Freigh - 10,375 up 34.95%