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I heard 4 aircraft have been sold to African airline with an option on another 4 coming from new production. I suppose 1 frame from BHX and one from LGW. Not sure about the others
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FRA > BHX/MAN combination again
On Wednesday it appeared the BHX flight to FRA routed via MAN with the return to BHX only with onward ground transport to MAN.
Today it looks like the BHX passengers returning are the ones with the lengthy journey. It seems that the MAN departure (1608) routed via BHX (1717) and will arrive FRA 2023 [est] - one and a half hours later than scheduled.
The flight back to MAN is currently showing as est 2030 departure - 40 minutes later than scheduled. Again the notified departure time from FRA bears no relation to the arrival time of the inbound. This may route via BHX but Midlanders may be bussed from MAN.
Today it looks like the BHX passengers returning are the ones with the lengthy journey. It seems that the MAN departure (1608) routed via BHX (1717) and will arrive FRA 2023 [est] - one and a half hours later than scheduled.
The flight back to MAN is currently showing as est 2030 departure - 40 minutes later than scheduled. Again the notified departure time from FRA bears no relation to the arrival time of the inbound. This may route via BHX but Midlanders may be bussed from MAN.
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Thanks for the warning, BHX2FRA.
They know they shut-down those routes, so I guess don't care anymore about pax. I have two bookings with them, one next week BHX-DUS, which should be fine, but also a BHX-FRA end-Aug. They haven't yet contacted me about this, and accessing it via my FlyBe.com account gives me an access error. So if someone from FlyBe sees this post, please be aware some folks are already waiting for alternative offers (free transfer to BHX-DUS, I hope).
They know they shut-down those routes, so I guess don't care anymore about pax. I have two bookings with them, one next week BHX-DUS, which should be fine, but also a BHX-FRA end-Aug. They haven't yet contacted me about this, and accessing it via my FlyBe.com account gives me an access error. So if someone from FlyBe sees this post, please be aware some folks are already waiting for alternative offers (free transfer to BHX-DUS, I hope).
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Thanks, WingoWango, that would help. I have a school reunion that weekend, and am hanging in limbo at the moment due to this.
Check this, the PPRUNE search function is really worth trying:
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...-flybe-50.html
More Q400, less E175 then, we'll see !
Check this, the PPRUNE search function is really worth trying:
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...-flybe-50.html
More Q400, less E175 then, we'll see !
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Are Flybe shares a good buy?
Flybe was featured in the Financial times this weekend and a good case was made for their shares being a good 'buy' at this time. The shares floated last December at £3.40 but have now fallen to around £1.80 and thus the company is statistically 'cheap' and has a healthy cash balance.
Are any Ppruners share pundits with a view on this?
Are any Ppruners share pundits with a view on this?
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Yarpy, I've been monitoring these with interest too.
In general the UK stock market has fallen approximately 8% in May/June this year. Last year it fell approximately 11% in the same period so this is nothing new and so Flybe shares may increase over coming months as the cyclical nature of the market changes. Flybe has been a casualty of this market drop, but it was the report of lower than anticipated trading figures in early May that did most of the damage. Coming so soon after the IPO and with no 'public company' track record to rely on, and a year of what might be classed as exceptional events (hard winter weather and volcanic ash) it's share price was hit hard.
Whilst I've yet to see anyone suggesting that Flybe shares are a 'stong buy', they do seem to be agreeing that Flybe shares are undervalued and they are at least getting a 'buy' rating from many pundits/organisations. Flybe must nearly be ready to report their FY10/11 results soon so it will be interesting to see the markets reaction to these based on the interim report issued in May.
Airlines are notoriously risky stock but to me, after some fairly exceptional events Flybe still seems to be in a pretty healthy state. I guess you could always stick your money in a savings account and look forward to the 0.5% interest
.......or you could take a punt?
In general the UK stock market has fallen approximately 8% in May/June this year. Last year it fell approximately 11% in the same period so this is nothing new and so Flybe shares may increase over coming months as the cyclical nature of the market changes. Flybe has been a casualty of this market drop, but it was the report of lower than anticipated trading figures in early May that did most of the damage. Coming so soon after the IPO and with no 'public company' track record to rely on, and a year of what might be classed as exceptional events (hard winter weather and volcanic ash) it's share price was hit hard.
Whilst I've yet to see anyone suggesting that Flybe shares are a 'stong buy', they do seem to be agreeing that Flybe shares are undervalued and they are at least getting a 'buy' rating from many pundits/organisations. Flybe must nearly be ready to report their FY10/11 results soon so it will be interesting to see the markets reaction to these based on the interim report issued in May.
Airlines are notoriously risky stock but to me, after some fairly exceptional events Flybe still seems to be in a pretty healthy state. I guess you could always stick your money in a savings account and look forward to the 0.5% interest
.......or you could take a punt?
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It's Sunday so I will play the one in the clouds
Errrm look very hard at the signals about the future of other medium sized airlines currently being reviewed by their shareholders. Dig deep into your well of reason and you will see the enlightenment provided by various metals that are becomming increasingly scarce unless we start to mine the moon. As said Airline shares are risky - The serious money seems to be going into commodities.
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Just to report that they still haven't figured-out what to do with existing BHX-FRA bookings after the cancellation date. See error message below for a end-Aug booking, while I can access my booking for this week without problems. So should I call them and pay 25 GBP for 25 min (surely that's how long it will take to sort this out), or just not bother, organise an alternative on FR, EZY, BA or EST. Quite possibly the latter. I believe they have to offer me a full refund at some point.
I've spotted their Face -book (i.e. Zuckerberg's invention) page, but can't post messages their from my account. With the school holidays, they must annoy quite a few people with this.
Unfortunately there has been a technical issue retrieving your booking. Please check the details and try again.
If this persists please call our Internet Support Team on *0906 999 9999 (calls cost GBP 1.00 per minute; calls from mobiles and some networks may be higher) or International *+44 13 922 685 15 for help.
If this persists please call our Internet Support Team on *0906 999 9999 (calls cost GBP 1.00 per minute; calls from mobiles and some networks may be higher) or International *+44 13 922 685 15 for help.
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Cat 111 NDB.....Not only the serious money, but people too.I got out of Aviation after 21 years last year and now work in OGEM ( Oil Gas Energy and Minerals)...best move I ever made, where the filthy lucre is spread to all ranks with bonuses and good times are a plenty....unlike some airlines where the politburo view is
" Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"
" Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"
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OK ! Should try Exeter then. Also good news from LH: They seem to have released some 'unofficial BHX-FRA rescue fare' tickets for end-Aug at 70 GBP one-way. Many of the flight search engines miss those, but lh.com has them. BE has to rebuild some confidence. Not saying anything official about those route cuts isn't that great, esp for regular users. This is the one and only mention you get even on Google News, and that's only upen investigation by a journalist (or maybe even a fellow PPRUNE punter ? 
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Flybe drops Frankfurt routes | ABTN
BTW, eh, "Passengers booked between now and July 24th" ? That must be "Passengers booked after July 24th"...
):Flybe drops Frankfurt routes | ABTN
BTW, eh, "Passengers booked between now and July 24th" ? That must be "Passengers booked after July 24th"...
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Freight Doggy Dog. - What we are talking about here is the attitude of the "Capital Market Makers" its an age old problem - The financial results are what really matters. The money Men/Women look at things on a very short time scale. If they can generate more profits by providing money to speculative Hedge funds by selling share holdings in a sector, they will do it.
Madness really
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FRA cancellation
That's more for a travel forum, but just in case it's useful to others: My colleague has/had a September BHX-FRA, he phoned them in Exeter on 01392 268529, and they only offered full refund (i.e. no transfer onto LH/BD), which he took, as he got a LH ticket for similar price himself. Still have to try myself, could go for BHX-DUS as an alternative. Still no email from them, and same error as mentioned earlier when retrieving booking on the website, so thanks again to people here for the warning. NB I remember when WW did this (cancelled some EMA-CGN flights), they've sent an email right away, even FR sent email right-away with the option to accept a schedule change or apply for refund just by clicking a button.
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except that you presumabley wanted to go to FRA not DUS in the first place
Lots of rumours here on Fraggle that we re about to get same treatment and loose our BRS and SOU routes.
Lots of rumours here on Fraggle that we re about to get same treatment and loose our BRS and SOU routes.
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Q400
G-FLBH Q400 was delivered to BHX tonight despite rumours that it might
not even see the UK en route to warmer climes. On second thoughts looking
at tomorrows forecast maybe BHX is that warmer clime!!!!!
Is this aircraft going to enter service?
One odd aspect, G-INFO (CAA Site) does not show that the aircraft is
registered as yet, I assume a late Friday afternoon paperwork job and
the website has yet to be updated?
With BHX & MAN Frankfurt ending the first 175 arriving in July and no new
flights starting, I assume something is in the pipeline.
G-JECS, G-JECT & G-FLBG all appear to still be in service having
been stood-down in past for short periods.
Pete
not even see the UK en route to warmer climes. On second thoughts looking
at tomorrows forecast maybe BHX is that warmer clime!!!!!
Is this aircraft going to enter service?
One odd aspect, G-INFO (CAA Site) does not show that the aircraft is
registered as yet, I assume a late Friday afternoon paperwork job and
the website has yet to be updated?
With BHX & MAN Frankfurt ending the first 175 arriving in July and no new
flights starting, I assume something is in the pipeline.
G-JECS, G-JECT & G-FLBG all appear to still be in service having
been stood-down in past for short periods.
Pete
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It seems that the companys results are due to announced on Friday and the Sunday paper says it will show a big swing from profits to losses. I think Jim French will give out details of the cost cuts then to try and keep his city backers happy. The share performance has not been grate