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Old 14th Sep 2013, 16:08
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But such a sh!te name to give an aeroplane! It was the result of a competition too. If that was the best entry, I'd have hated to see the ones that didn't make it.
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Old 14th Sep 2013, 18:57
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They are parking up 4 195's for the winter then for the summer the 195's return and then new jets replace 4 dash's that are going back to the lease company. All subject to the new ex easyjet team that now seem to be in charge.
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Old 14th Sep 2013, 19:02
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The 195s must start going back next year though. The lease was only for seven years and although I wasn't on the first course it was one of the first, and that was over six years ago.
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Old 14th Sep 2013, 19:53
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Yes and Aurigney is acquiring one of our soon to be "ex" 195s, too (apparently).

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Old 14th Sep 2013, 20:42
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The Aurigny EMB195 is a new build a/c due Jun next year

BBC News - Aurigny order plane for Gatwick route

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Old 14th Sep 2013, 21:06
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Yes and Aurigney is acquiring one of our soon to be "ex" 195s, too (apparently).
This may be a reference to the fact that Aurigny apparently plans to operate a 195 in the interim between Flybe's dropping the route in March and their own acquisition in June:

Mr Darby said: "There will be a short gap between when Flybe abandon the route and when we take over. We need a gap because we need to retrain a lot of our crew.

"We'll fill the gap with what's called a wet lease, so we'll bring in another jet aircraft, hopefully something similar to the one we're going to buy, for two or three months."
So perhaps, as has been speculated previously, one of the ex-Flybe aircraft will simply be leased to Aurigny in the interim.
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Old 14th Sep 2013, 21:40
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That makes sense. I stand corrected
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 09:59
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Is there any truth or substance in the rumour that the MTOW of the 195s are being raised??
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 11:24
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Is there any truth or substance in the rumour that the MTOW of the 195s are being raised??
175s maybe. Never get close on the 195.
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 19:13
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195's

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Seven years is up on the first one as it was delivered 2/3 September 2006 and entered service 22/9/2013 on BHX - GLA. Has the lease been extended or does it run to the end of the month?

The aircraft itself is BHX based at present and seems to have operated the flypast at Dublin (along with the BA A380 and Etihad 346 amongst others) and then covered for a Q400 on BHX-INV-BHX.

It probably has more to do today as well with BHX-AMS and BHX - DUS delayed still, making it a miserable day at BHX although not as bad as Monarch and Thomas Cook in terms of the length of the respective delays.

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Old 15th Sep 2013, 22:31
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Any particular problems at SOU tonight?

BE148 from NCL looks like it flew into Bournemouth. It also has "contact airline" on the SOU website.

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Old 15th Sep 2013, 22:42
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Seven years is up on the first one as it was delivered 2/3 September 2006 and entered service 22/9/2013 on BHX - GLA. Has the lease been extended or does it run to the end of the month?
G-FBEA&B still showing as flying in November.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 07:13
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3 directors - Andrew Strong, Mike Rutter and Mark Chown to leave Flybe. Matt Bennett, head of audit/risk also becomes head of special projects (a corporate title that is not usually encouraging longterm for the postholder).
In effect, old guard being booted out

UK and Outsourcing divisions to be merged as a plan to cut costs. 40m additional savings being targeted. Strategic review due to end in November.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 15:17
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What's the future for Flybe?

It appears a radical restructuring of the Exeter airline.
Flybe dismisses three directors amid operations overhaul
Airline group merges divisions as new chief executive Saad Hammad pushes for a single, lower cost business
Flybe dismisses three directors amid operations overhaul | Business | theguardian.com
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Old 25th Sep 2013, 06:10
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London

Following the restructuring of Flybe's operations, what chance they'll develop a new London footprint following their exit from Gatwick?

I appreciate the airline has a few Luton flights in its schedule for next summer but these aren't even daily & only seasonal.

I wonder if Flybe might see their future as a truly regional only airline, particularly if the routes they are exiting at Gatwick are all, as expected, picked up by others?

Or is the London market too important for them to ignore?
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 18:51
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Cardiff Expansion

I see Flybe has expanded their winter programme from Cardiff with four new routes to Chambery, Geneva, Grenoble and Lyon.

Had a little look at the schedules on the airlines site to see how these would be operated. I can't figure out the Chambery route, but for the others (along with a couple of EXT routes) are below.

SOU-GVA-CWL-GVA-SOU, Q400
SOU-GNB-CWL-GNB-SOU, Q400
SOU-CMF-EXT-CMF-SOU, E195
SOU-GVA-EXT-GVA-SOU, E195
BHX-LYS-CWL-LYS-BHX, E175

I thought SOU went to 1x EJET in the winter, does anyone know the disposition of the aircraft this winter? Is it not a little late to launch these routes, or have they been on sale for a while?

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 21:25
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Think SOU will have two E-Jets this winter.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 23:37
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Can I ask are Flybe due to remove all of their E-195's from the fleet?
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 18:44
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http://www.flybe.com/corporate/pdf/F...esentation.pdf

I think this is the latest official information, and Slide 24 indicates that the fleet will reduce to about 6 by 2016. But to me there are lots of variables

...Maybe used E195 values plummet for some reason, and so suddenly a new lease is significantly cheaper
...Maybe FlyBe's costs with the E195 are too close to other LoCos using A319s (or C-series in the future)
...Maybe the economy picks up and the E175 looks too small...

There is of course the new CEO since then. He replaced the board members responsible for the slides presented in June, so I would guess a full strategy refresh is in progress - he's in the driving seat now so I would be very surprised if absolutely nothing changed.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 19:54
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G-FBEA and G-FBEB I think are due to be returned to their lessors at the end of 2014, but as E75toDUS points out, these decisions were made under previous management so I guess any fleet plan etc should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Thanks for the answers re: SOU-based fleet

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