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I'm afraid your apparently overpaid ex-charter chums will be drawing a paycheque from OS into 2010... C'est la vie. Maybe they will be back with you next summer? Who knows. GLA.
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I doubt RoyHudd cares whether his "apparently overpaid ex-charter chums will be drawing a paycheque from OS into 2010" or not.
OS won't be owned by BA then, so it will (for the first time) have to sink or swim on it's own merit.
I've lost count of the number of carriers, of this model that have gone down the tubes in recent years.
I fear this one will be no different.
I doubt RoyHudd cares whether his "apparently overpaid ex-charter chums will be drawing a paycheque from OS into 2010" or not.
OS won't be owned by BA then, so it will (for the first time) have to sink or swim on it's own merit.
I've lost count of the number of carriers, of this model that have gone down the tubes in recent years.
I fear this one will be no different.
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Not gloating.
By 2010, it will be sink or swim for most of us I fear. Charter or scheduled, the world is no longer an easy place to make a living; aviation is no exception.
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The difference being, OS has never had to face that reality before, having had a rather wealthy Sugar Daddy. Which is what allowed it to continue operating with such dismal load factors.
A buyer is being sought. Problem is, who will be tempted??
The difference being, OS has never had to face that reality before, having had a rather wealthy Sugar Daddy. Which is what allowed it to continue operating with such dismal load factors.
A buyer is being sought. Problem is, who will be tempted??
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Re a buyer
Maybe some wealthy Gentleman who own football clubs would buy
MAYBE NOT
It was never going to work but there were plenty of people who were paid plenty of money who said it would
I Say no more
Maybe some wealthy Gentleman who own football clubs would buy
MAYBE NOT
It was never going to work but there were plenty of people who were paid plenty of money who said it would
I Say no more
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New route from Orly?
I see that in the lastest COHOR allocation at Orly that OpenSkies has received an extra daily slot. Any idea what for? I see that for the same allocation BA applied for Montreal but were unsuccessful. Was this just back-up for a potential flight from OS?
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I see that in the lastest COHOR allocation at Orly that OpenSkies has received an extra daily slot. Any idea what for? I see that for the same allocation BA applied for Montreal but were unsuccessful. Was this just back-up for a potential flight from OS?
https://www.flyopenskies.com/press/en_us
The press release says that from June 19th 2008 to the end on May 2010 Openskies carried 155,000+ passenger on it's flights from Paris to New York this gives OS a 29% market share .
BA decided back in December not to sell on a stake in Openskies to another company. after BA reassessed the future of Openskies and decided the subsidiary has a more promising future than originally suspected. BA decided not to sell a stake in Openskies and insisted that Openskies had strong commercial and financial value. BA plans to invest around $40 million in 2010 to expand the Openskies operation.
In the press release Openskies says "the positive results achieved to date have enabled the company to plan for future expansion".Openskies is currently looking at approx 20 different key business destanations and plans to launch it's third route sometime this Summer.
The third route will be launched from It's main base of ORY. Openskies had been strongly rumoured to be looking to adding a ORY/YUL route. EC currenly has at it's disposal enough slots at ORY to operate the flights daily. If you are right and the can't get slots for YUL other destanations that could be added are BOS, DTW, ORD or YYZ.
During the Winter10/11 season Openskies are expected to announce that they will add one maybe two 757's to the fleet and open a new base in Europe. Routes that are being discussed and airlines currently operating them include
BRU - EWR
BRU - IAD
FRA - EWR
FRA - IAD
MXP - EWR
MXP - IAD
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Press release is one EC's website. Click link below and it will take you to there press room page. Scroll down passed videos, press release and articles until you get to press release archives. Click on OpenSkies celebrates its second aniversary
https://www.flyopenskies.com/press/en_us
https://www.flyopenskies.com/press/en_us
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A little early for me, but 29% market share of what? What revenue has been gained in this period? Seems a little pointless!
Is or was there a press release expected?
Is or was there a press release expected?
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Actually, no, I think they are picking and choosing a bit more. I think they mean the PAR-NYC business-and-first-class market. See an earlier release here where they claimed 18% of "the business traffic between the two cities". I don't know whether they count premium-economy in that - I suspect not.
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Is OpenSkies close to being closed down?
The EWR route is still making money so for now the route will remain. However the closing down of EC can't be ruled out especially with the financial problems in the Eurozone and the US
