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Canada 2010
All trace seems to have been removed from the UK website, so if people are planning to book, there's nothing to say there will be a program.
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Look closer. In the top right corner, the Canadian flag is still there with the URL link to flyglobespan.ca, still with its "Canada 2010 Coming Soon" message. Extremely late to be posting a Summer 2010 schedule, mind you.
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I should imagine they are waiting to see if the Middle East ACMI gets signed
If that is correct as a customer of flyglobespan who has used their Canadian program many a time in the past I find that a disgusting way to treat loyal customers. Its as if we're second best and not important.
If flyglobespan do get the contract then it means the notice on the website which reads “Canada 2010 flights on sale” is a blatant lie. Flyglobespan are misleading customers into thinking there will be Canadian flights while behind the scenes management are doing everything to ensure there is not a Canadian flying program.
So what happens when flyglobespan get this Middle Eastern contract? Will flyglobespan admit they have lied to the public, many of whom have been using the company for years? Or will they just quietly remove everything to do with Canada from their website and be done with it?
I suppose I better book with Air Transat, Canadian Affair or Thomas Cook now before fares rocket when everyone else hoping travel with flyglobespan realises they have been lied to.
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There isn't going to be a Canadian program this late in the day. Interesting that GSM would rather operate ACMI than build on a long standing Canadian operation. I guess all those who booked in previous year can just go somewhere else. hardly a sensible move to keep customers loyal.
This company is in full retreat.
This company is in full retreat.
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Obviously i was meaning if it went on sale.
Ofcourse its now been shown that it wont be such a shame, its been the market they have been involved in for so long and now its ditched.
Should get their canadian website changed to say there will be no flights for 2010!!!!!
Ofcourse its now been shown that it wont be such a shame, its been the market they have been involved in for so long and now its ditched.
Should get their canadian website changed to say there will be no flights for 2010!!!!!
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Really? Do you think the world is waiting on GSM to do this or booking with Thomas Cook, Air Transat, Air Canada and all.
It seems they *might* fly to Canada if nothing better comes along? Wow, I'll hold off booking just in case they do!
It seems they *might* fly to Canada if nothing better comes along? Wow, I'll hold off booking just in case they do!
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Agreed. I will need to do a couple trips across the pond and have been waiting for the sched because its much more convenient to fly out of YHM. I need to book soon and would rather not turn to a carrier operating out of YYZ to do it.
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In reply to Random Flyer's rant (font font // blaah); instead of whining on here, either book with someone else or wait to see if they come on sale.
BTW, 1 post?? So you either joined Pprune to spout rubbish, or you're someone we know on here and didn't want to look an idiot!
I suggested they might be waiting on an ACMI, so they can see how many aircraft they have available to do the North America programme.
Even if one goes to M/E, GSM have another 767 available, as well as 737s and even the fall-back of being able to block book seats with other carriers (or even getting a cheap ACMI aircraft in for the 4 months that they sell Canada tickets)..... So where's the lies? You obviously seem to think that airlines owe you a route, just because you've used them before.
There have been rumours all winter that there will be a Canada programme, including some new destinations. Maybe those talks have not been finalised, and maybe seats will be on sale soon. Globespan have a 30+ year history of selling tickets to Canada, so I can't see them dropping it completely.
However, as purely personal opinion, after the topic of conversation on here just over a week ago, I would not blame GSM in the slightest if they dropped all passenger routes on the 767 and went fully ACMI to ride out the next 12 months.
BMI/BA/Virgin/Thomson/Thomas Cook/Ryanair/Easyjet etc have all dropped, or reduced capacity on unprofitable routes, so why wouldn't GSM do the sensible thing too?
BTW, 1 post?? So you either joined Pprune to spout rubbish, or you're someone we know on here and didn't want to look an idiot!
I suggested they might be waiting on an ACMI, so they can see how many aircraft they have available to do the North America programme.
Even if one goes to M/E, GSM have another 767 available, as well as 737s and even the fall-back of being able to block book seats with other carriers (or even getting a cheap ACMI aircraft in for the 4 months that they sell Canada tickets)..... So where's the lies? You obviously seem to think that airlines owe you a route, just because you've used them before.
There have been rumours all winter that there will be a Canada programme, including some new destinations. Maybe those talks have not been finalised, and maybe seats will be on sale soon. Globespan have a 30+ year history of selling tickets to Canada, so I can't see them dropping it completely.
However, as purely personal opinion, after the topic of conversation on here just over a week ago, I would not blame GSM in the slightest if they dropped all passenger routes on the 767 and went fully ACMI to ride out the next 12 months.
BMI/BA/Virgin/Thomson/Thomas Cook/Ryanair/Easyjet etc have all dropped, or reduced capacity on unprofitable routes, so why wouldn't GSM do the sensible thing too?
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Globespan have a 30+ year history of selling tickets to Canada, so I can't see them dropping it completely.
However, as purely personal opinion, after the topic of conversation on here just over a week ago, I would not blame GSM in the slightest if they dropped all passenger routes on the 767 and went fully ACMI to ride out the next 12 months.
However, as purely personal opinion, after the topic of conversation on here just over a week ago, I would not blame GSM in the slightest if they dropped all passenger routes on the 767 and went fully ACMI to ride out the next 12 months.
It beggars belief that they will start selling a Canada program in January on the basis that "we couldn't find anyone else to lease the 767 to so we might as well if we have to".
As to leasing in a short term aircraft to cover the program, for the love of God, is the Icelandair 757 debacle that killed their reputation already forgotten?
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The Icelandair debacle is unlikely ever to be forgotten especially by those (Me) that was there at the time however even being in the upper management echelon at Colinton I could never figure out why NEOS were discarded after only one season as they did a great job with next to no tech or other problems, maybe someone who had day to day experience with them know better than me.
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This company is in full retreat
I think Skipness one echo is close to the truth with this comment.
One would have to have very deep pockets and big balls to plan a major Canada program, the weakness of the pound will reduce demand and increase your fuel costs that are just short of $80 dpb on top of which you have to add the increase in APD
Sub lease the 76's and at least someone else will pick up the variable fuel costs. Next years short haul program is looking very short, this company is in retreat and facing a growing threat from Ryanair in Scotland, the Scot's are coming to terms with the fact that whilst Ryanair may not have the best reputation in terms of customer service, you are very unlikely to need it, it does what it says on the tin Fly cheaper and unlike Globespan if it says Alicante on the gate board, that's where your going, and not via GLA or MME or where ever else,
No doubt loyal Globelights will moan that at least they rescue you if things go wrong, but thats like buying a Rover car and been told it includes free AA membership (you'll need it) and look where that company went??
Its back to basic's run a holiday company and use an airline (Thomas cook/Jet2 ) that knows what its doing to do the flying bit........Globespan and a 787.your having a laugh
One would have to have very deep pockets and big balls to plan a major Canada program, the weakness of the pound will reduce demand and increase your fuel costs that are just short of $80 dpb on top of which you have to add the increase in APD
Sub lease the 76's and at least someone else will pick up the variable fuel costs. Next years short haul program is looking very short, this company is in retreat and facing a growing threat from Ryanair in Scotland, the Scot's are coming to terms with the fact that whilst Ryanair may not have the best reputation in terms of customer service, you are very unlikely to need it, it does what it says on the tin Fly cheaper and unlike Globespan if it says Alicante on the gate board, that's where your going, and not via GLA or MME or where ever else,
No doubt loyal Globelights will moan that at least they rescue you if things go wrong, but thats like buying a Rover car and been told it includes free AA membership (you'll need it) and look where that company went??
Its back to basic's run a holiday company and use an airline (Thomas cook/Jet2 ) that knows what its doing to do the flying bit........Globespan and a 787.your having a laugh
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Canadian Program
The travel trade in Canada seem to have written Flyglobespan off. They got rid of their local Manager and have been tardy in paying their accounts to suppliers and ground handlers. Transport Canada fined them in Calgary for non-compliance with the Passenger Protect Program last year. Everyone else is already off the mark with their 2010 programs but the Flyglobespan website continues to say, "Come Back Soon"...
