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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 16:16
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You deserve each other

Reading this recent series of exchanges reminds me that BA managers and staff clearly deserve each other. Will BA die like the dinosaurs or the dodos?
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 18:46
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It always amazes me how people have the fabulous ability to judge a huge company employing thousands of pilots and cabin crew by the somewhat delinquent ramblings of less than a dozen anonymous posters on a fully public forum

Good luck on the stock exchange
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 17:11
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Once BA was a huge Co

Once upon a time BA was a huge Co. It is slowly becoming smaller and smaller. Remember ICI? During the 70's and 80's it was the UK's buggest Company. It no longer exists.
So, will BA die like a dinosaur or a dodo?
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 18:10
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You mean the company that spun off its core businesses to form two very successful sub companies after hostile take over bids in the early 1990's? The two businesses being the pharmaceuticals and agrochemicals businesses Zeneca and Syngenta? Sadly the brand ICI died this year but the core businesses still exist within the two above companies. This is why the pilots were so opposed to Open Skies.

Hostile takeover bids for BA? In the current market? Sorry, very unlikely. Also the ability of the company, despite its seemingly sloth like management, to adapt it's core business is quite an asset. Whilst most airlines have been crawling out from under the bankruptcy rock, BA has been cleaning its debt and recovering a stable financial footing.

I doubt we will see
BA die like a dinosaur or a dodo
but I do see a bit of 'personnel restructuring' coming. The running of a small operation with a limited route structure ala 'Silverjet' is somewhat different to the LH operation run by BA.
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 21:53
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rubik101,

...Anyway, who cares? If anyone really believes that sub $100 oil is around the corner is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Ummm....

Oil price is reaching tipping point, says Lehman - Telegraph

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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 22:57
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Mmmm...

Humble pie, anyone?
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Old 24th Jul 2008, 09:42
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IN my post ofthe 20th July, I predicted oil would be down to U$70 by spring next year.

Not so wide of the mark Andy S?
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Old 24th Jul 2008, 11:08
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I never said you were wrong.

I suggested that someone sufficiently clever to know what the price of oil, or indeed any other commodity would be in 6 months time could be making a far better living than they do as cabin crew.

Personally I hope you're right.
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Old 26th Jul 2008, 00:48
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i also pointed to an economists report on 15th july,that oil prices will fall sharply and was ridiculed by hz123.........perhaps he or she should take more notice of people who know what they are talking about.
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Old 26th Jul 2008, 10:37
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Let me know when the price drops below $100/bbl and I'll review my predictions then. Until then...................
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 11:04
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Whilst the management of British Airways are about to provoke a devastating strike over cutting the T&C's of its cabin crew via Operation Columbus, Lufthansa cc are on strike over a 9.8% pay claim!

No doubt the Lufty crews want to achieve the 'benchmark' pay of BA staff.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 11:59
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Probably not the best time to be looking at industrial action really...

British Airways to clip wings of short-haul fleet - Times Online
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 12:28
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Well i guess BACityflyer out of LCY will be getting lots more pax!!!!
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 12:26
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I am sure Carnage, 411A and others must be pleased that BA has "merged" with a company that has even better T&C's for its pilots and cabin crew.

I wonder what the employee to hull ratio is at IBERIA compared with BA? Somehow I feel they may not be so top heavy.
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 13:26
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Turbulence for BA/Willie

Of course there will be turbulence. Capt. Willie needs turbulence to justify his pay packet. If being the boss was easy, I'm sure that one of the BA pilots would be doing it.
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 13:49
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Rather than one of Aer Lingus'?
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 14:14
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Correct

Correct. All and sundry seem to be able to run BA. Aussies, Irish and so on. Why don't the BA pilots stop moaning and start managing/directing?
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 16:43
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Employees per Aircraft - from the BA website.

BA 171
IB 113

Quite a difference !
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 17:12
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To be fair a reasonable amounbt of that is due to the relative sizes of Long Haul fleets Iberia 20 something BA 113. Thats a lot of extra crew.
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 18:01
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Age profiles

I wonder what the relative age profiles are? That normally signals the availability or not of "early retirement"
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