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Old 15th Nov 2011, 11:42
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I'd take the train spotter and the Spartan general of the other bunch of clowns every day of the week. I'm sure there are plenty in the old land dunnunda that would agree. Too many of their commercial predecessors have been too weak or too preoccupied with other agendas to make the baby a man, and the new foster parents did little to help. Blame the parents not the sitters.
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Old 19th Nov 2011, 15:39
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From what I've seen, bmibaby are set to introduce Reus for 2012...

Currently bookable on TCX's website as...

WW7501, EMA-REU D13:05 A16:25
WW7502, REU-EMA D17:00 A18:30

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Old 19th Nov 2011, 15:50
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From what I've seen, bmibaby are set to introduce Reus for 2012...
This will most likely will be a fully chartered aircraft on behalf of Thomas Cook operated by baby, although it would be good to see any spare capacity sold onbehalf of bmibaby as a scheduled service.

It will operate 2x weekly on Mondays (Dep 08:10) and Fridays (Dep 13:05)

You probably know, bmibaby have worked closely with Thomas Cook for a number of years now, mainly selling a percentage of seats on certain days on flights to and from Alicante, Malaga and Palma. This was originally the plan so that TCX aircraft could expand and open up routes to longer sector destinations like Turkey etc.

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Old 20th Nov 2011, 16:56
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Quote from westernpeople July 2010

Commenting on the news, Joe Gilmore, managing director, Ireland West Airport Knock said: “We are delighted to welcome bmibaby’s 800,000th passenger through Ireland West Airport Knock. I'm delighted to welcome the managing director of bmibaby, Julian Carr, to the airport to celebrate this milestone achievement. "We have enjoyed a great relationship over the past six years with bmibaby and their services to both Manchester and Birmingham have proved hugely popular with people both in this region and in the UK and we look forward to further passenger growth and to expanding our route network with bmibaby in the coming years ”
What happen since as manchester is gone and what about birmingham is it going be the same?
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Old 20th Nov 2011, 17:05
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What happen since as manchester is gone and what about birmingham is it going be the same?
bmibaby no longer have a base at MAN or operate any routes from there. They continue to operate BHX to NOC year round.
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 07:09
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Careers 2012

bmibaby is now recruiting Cabin Crew for the following locations:

East Midlands
Birmingham
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 12:52
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any news?

Anymore news on a buyer for baby?
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 15:12
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 16:03
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inkjet...

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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 20:58
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Well Bruce Dickenson is now looking to spend his millions maybe he is looking into it.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 23:04
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bmibaby Belfast - Stansted

From the bmibaby website;

Flying start for bmibaby at Stansted


bmibaby is celebrating a successful start at London Stansted Airport following the launch of its Belfast route earlier this year.

Carrying more than 60,000 customers in just six months, bmibaby is delighted with its initial operation from the London airport.
After a significant investment at its latest base, bmibaby has certainly got off to a flying start.

bmibaby is the only low cost airline to operate flights from Stansted Airport to George Best Belfast City Airport, which has contributed to the route’s impressive passenger numbers. Flying up to 11 times a week, the airline’s convenient flight times and high frequency has attracted a loyal base of both business and leisure customers.

Julian Carr, managing director, bmibaby, said:
“We are thrilled with the initial success we have enjoyed at Stansted Airport with our Belfast service. After investing in the airport, our first London base, offering customers convenient flights to Belfast, we have positioned the brand well in the region. As a result, we regularly achieve good load factors and have built up a loyal customer base.”

Recently voted Best Low Cost Airline by the discerning readers of Condé Nast Traveller Magazine, bmibaby flies from Stansted to Belfast up to 11 times a week with fares starting from just £19.99 one way including taxes.
It seems they are very pleased with this service contrary to some posters on here... Then again I guess has been posted from the bmi group
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 23:10
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look at the stats for yourself. they are probably carrying about 60-70 pax average. Making money on that?

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Old 27th Nov 2011, 00:10
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Based on 60,000 pax using the service over 6 months, that gives an average load of 105 passengers per sector assuming 11 return flights per week....
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 14:42
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They seem to be awfully round numbers for a 6 month report. Even so using basic arithmetic, it is giving approx 70% load factors. This doesn't tie in with the number of pax I am hearing are actually flying the route.

More importantly, to justify the investment in the route, what is the yield?

Is it eating into the competition's pax numbers at all, like errrm bmi mainline to LHR....

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Old 27th Nov 2011, 15:45
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apart from stansted, how is the load factors looking on the amsterdam route? it did have quite a lot of press when the route was announced along with the other european routes, but is it really having any efect on easyjet. if aer lingus couldnt make it work can baby do it?
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 16:05
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They seem to be awfully round numbers for a 6 month report. Even so using basic arithmetic, it is giving approx 70% load factors. This doesn't tie in with the number of pax I am hearing are actually flying the route.

More importantly, to justify the investment in the route, what is the yield?

Is it eating into the competition's pax numbers at all, like errrm bmi mainline to LHR....
Agreed, they do look rounded up, but then this is a public press release and most people will not care for the actual number. This particular number shows a high amount (thousands) obviously close enough to the actual number to which in turn tells the public how ''popular'' the route is. As with most press releases of this nature it is free marketing.

As for yield, well as with pretty much any airline we are probably never going to know this information. However for them to carry the route on they must be achieving a set target to make it viable.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 18:27
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I've seen the odd day were the baby STN has more passengers booked than mainline LHR. AMS has quite low figures 30-40 at the start of the week i.e. Mon , Tues , Wed this can rise to 60-70 Fri when it is weekenders going for away for a few nights break.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 19:14
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Let's not forget that the reason baby started STN was because they were told to do so by WPS. He saw it as part of a strategic bmi view - most probably because he wanted to start weaning the Mainline pax in prep for a Mainline departure from BHD. This obviously didn't happen due to all sorts of reasons.

But BHD is making a significant contribution towards the baby purse!
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 19:46
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As for yield, well as with pretty much any airline we are probably never going to know this information. However for them to carry the route on they must be achieving a set target to make it viable.
The trick with an airline, and I don't mean to sound patronising, is to make money. Any idiot can fill an aeroplane, but being able to separate the pax from their hard earned is the name of the game. As far as I know only BCal managed to make a single route so profitable that it carried the rest of the network. With CWL and MAN now closed, there is an imperative to justify the decision to concentrate on BHD and the laughable Fortress East Mids concept.

But BHD is making a significant contribution towards the baby purse!
Unless you know the yields, you can't say that with any certainty....
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 20:55
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apart from stansted, how is the load factors looking on the amsterdam route? it did have quite a lot of press when the route was announced along with the other european routes, but is it really having any efect on easyjet. if aer lingus couldnt make it work can baby do it?
BHD2BFS; I dont think that WW is having a huge impact on EZY, I dont see a big dip in passenger numbers, though we will be able to compare them in CAA stats with WW from BHD. Tonight I flew AMS BFS, there was 130 onboard, and WW left ahead of us for BHD with 66.

Aer Lingus could have made a daily flight to AMS work if it was well established, unfortunately, the demand on the route was soft and at best they would be able to get half of the numbers and that was some way off. WW have the same challenge now, a limited market that is profitable on a daily basis or maybe 9 per week (as per EZY current schedule). I cant comment on yield but I would guess that EZY are not losing money on the route but WW with the low fares that seem to be available coupled with less fuel effecient aircraft and use of major airport like AMS, can be a lot in it for them.

EZY has an earlier flight today also on AMS BFS but not sure of the numbers.

I dont think that 60k have been carried on BHD STN Ytd the first 2 months were well below 10k pax each.

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