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Cork is already served by Aer Lingus Regional twice daily.
Would this really work?
Would this really work?
However, I don't see why bmibaby couldn't compete on any such route from MAN if they wanted to, though I guess at the minute the demand for ORK is better suited to the likes of Aer Lingus Regional with the smaller aircraft, at least for the minute anyway.
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A quote by Julan Carr, managing director of bmibaby explaining the future plans for the airline:
Since Lufthansa's takeover of bmi, budget arm bmibaby has been slimmed down from 17 Boeing 737s to 14. "At the moment we are focussing on being good at what we do. We aren't looking at massive growth plans. There are no plans to wipe out Ryanair," jokes Julian Carr, who became bmibaby managing director in April. "Our role within the group is to be a successful business in our own right."
Despite tough trading conditions, he says 2010 has been "a hell of an improvement on last year" as bmibaby continues to learn from its experiences and tweak its network accordingly. He readily confesses that bmibaby does not have any "huge, earth shattering stuff coming up" and 2011 will only see a gradual iteration of this year's programme. Growth will resume in 2012.
In the meantime, Carr is looking to promote bmibaby's service focus. "There is a negativity towards the Ryanair brand where people generally prefer not to fly with them, so if we can be in the ballpark price of Ryanair and give good service, people will go for that. I want people to say 'bmibaby, they're the good service one'." He uses the example of US low-cost carrier Allegiant. "Even though we're small, we can still be damned good at what we do. We don't have to be a big airline to succeed."
Despite tough trading conditions, he says 2010 has been "a hell of an improvement on last year" as bmibaby continues to learn from its experiences and tweak its network accordingly. He readily confesses that bmibaby does not have any "huge, earth shattering stuff coming up" and 2011 will only see a gradual iteration of this year's programme. Growth will resume in 2012.
In the meantime, Carr is looking to promote bmibaby's service focus. "There is a negativity towards the Ryanair brand where people generally prefer not to fly with them, so if we can be in the ballpark price of Ryanair and give good service, people will go for that. I want people to say 'bmibaby, they're the good service one'." He uses the example of US low-cost carrier Allegiant. "Even though we're small, we can still be damned good at what we do. We don't have to be a big airline to succeed."
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Summer 2011
I assume that this is not the last version?
If I have calculated correctly 15 aircraft required on some days.
The usual 3 at BHX & 2 at MAN. Then EMA seems to need 8 at
times on Monday and Fridays then there is the Cardiff schedule
which is a minimum of 2.
If VRN & IBZ are on for EMA then something else must give.
Pete
If I have calculated correctly 15 aircraft required on some days.
The usual 3 at BHX & 2 at MAN. Then EMA seems to need 8 at
times on Monday and Fridays then there is the Cardiff schedule
which is a minimum of 2.
If VRN & IBZ are on for EMA then something else must give.
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ema summer 2011
Pete :
have run of the sun p/m flights at ema here is the routes and times
14.35-17.40 ema-ams
13.35-1855 ema-bcn
13.20-15.55 ema-bfs
13.25-20.00 ema-fao
15.10-17.55 ema-jer
12.45-17.35 ema-muc
15.20-18.25 ema-cdg
13.30-18.25 ema-prg
8 aircraft required will thy lease in 1 aircraft to cover for summer, may be that b737/500 not required at boh with the local tour company.
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have run of the sun p/m flights at ema here is the routes and times
14.35-17.40 ema-ams
13.35-1855 ema-bcn
13.20-15.55 ema-bfs
13.25-20.00 ema-fao
15.10-17.55 ema-jer
12.45-17.35 ema-muc
15.20-18.25 ema-cdg
13.30-18.25 ema-prg
8 aircraft required will thy lease in 1 aircraft to cover for summer, may be that b737/500 not required at boh with the local tour company.
regards
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8 aircraft were planned to be needed at EMA for S10, with Bastia being operated on a Sun, and 2x CDG, but it never happened, so on the likely basis, this won't happen. It will be 7 aircraft over the week and that is it. Something will be dropped between now and April, and its most likely going to be MUC or CGN
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New summer 2011 routes
Well as rumoured the following new routes have finnally been announced for next summer;
East Midlands EMA - Verona VRN = 2x weekly
East Midlands EMA - Ibiza IBZ = 3x weekly
Cardiff Airport CWL - Ibiza IBZ = 2x weekly
I guess this will be it now for next summer as without any further fleet expansion there is no way of adding more routes.
Also in the press release, Manchester MAN - Palma PMI 2x weekly has been mentioned, which we already knew had been continued into the summer timetable.
East Midlands EMA - Verona VRN = 2x weekly
East Midlands EMA - Ibiza IBZ = 3x weekly
Cardiff Airport CWL - Ibiza IBZ = 2x weekly
I guess this will be it now for next summer as without any further fleet expansion there is no way of adding more routes.
Also in the press release, Manchester MAN - Palma PMI 2x weekly has been mentioned, which we already knew had been continued into the summer timetable.
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summer 2011
The one i was missing on a sun a/m ema-ibz will need to tweak one of the flights but now showing 8 aircraft on sun allday
we may see the flights to vrn and ibz on the tcx programme.
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we may see the flights to vrn and ibz on the tcx programme.
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''Apparently'' due to increased support from passengers, the change from BFS to BHD will now be from the 1st January 2011 instead of the 10/11th January. In my opinion they have probably had more people accept the change than they thought and so disrupted alot less passengers too.
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Have you wondered what expansions plans bmibaby has got in store for their bases?
Wanted to know why they don't fly to specific destinations?
Fleet Expansion?
All the questions on the future of bmibaby route network and more can be asked directly to Simon Moore Network Development Manager for bmibaby.
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Wanted to know why they don't fly to specific destinations?
Fleet Expansion?
All the questions on the future of bmibaby route network and more can be asked directly to Simon Moore Network Development Manager for bmibaby.
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New routes
Please can you consider providing new routes from Manchester to Berlin and Verona. There is a well healed market (Cheshire) for interesting city break and opera destinations. Evidence of this is the number of flights to Berlin via MUC/FRA etc. and a full opera house in Manchester. At the moment we need to use Lufthansa/ Brussels Airlines to go to these destinations. Would like to use BMIbaby but they need to provide the service to get the customers. After lots of big talk (hot air?) about expansion at MAN we've since heard lots of belly aching about wanting to be a successful but not very big airline with not many planes (???). It would be good to see some real committment by BMIbaby to MAN and a positive outlook recognised by happy customers - and BMIBaby rewarded accordingly. Message to baby is you have to in it to win it - even if you don't wan't to be be very big! Thanks, DomyDom
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Well, the sane answer to your illusionary request is: There is no market for MAN-BER or BHX-BER ! Both have been tried by Jet2 and BAConnect a few years ago respectively and failed with poor loads. The little demand is served well by FR with EMA-SXF (EMA of course owned by MAN). LH has hourly flights to TXL from both FRA and MUC, so connections must be easy. Us at BHX use EMA or LTN or can do BE BHX-HAJ then train, which is not much slower really. Around MAN, people use LPL-SXF on EZY. BER is obviously in Germany so they have the new extra tax making it even less interesting. This might even put EMA-SXF under threat (no summer timetable yet, last bookable is 26th March). Don't get me started on the economic weakness of the BER catchment area, it's seriously less wealthy than e.g. DUS or MUC, and airlines know this. Until BER-proper (Willi-Brandt-Airport at Schoenefeld) is operational in fall 2012, also not much use for long-haul connections. Note also while you might be interested in Berlin, Berliners are in general not interested in Central England, for them UK is London (and maybe Edinburgh). For now, we hope that WW's EMA-CGN/MUC at least survive which is far from guaranteed. Airlines are businesses, not charities...
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I see baby are offering 22kg baggage as standard until then end of the month, this is clearly aimed at Jet2 and must become standard be for long, if your travelling with a reasonable amount of luggage then Ryanair are well out of court!!
As for Berlin yes please WW would be on it like a shot and yes CGN & MUC are here to stay
Ryanair will try and flood the Med market this Summer but WW will more than hold their own and Jet2 will struggle at EMA as the Sharm bubble bursts due to sharks and bombs in Egypt
As for Berlin yes please WW would be on it like a shot and yes CGN & MUC are here to stay
Ryanair will try and flood the Med market this Summer but WW will more than hold their own and Jet2 will struggle at EMA as the Sharm bubble bursts due to sharks and bombs in Egypt
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I'm not too sure, out of the three carriers you mention, Ryanair, bmi baby and Jet2 - bmi baby are the least competitive and have offered a 22kg luggage allowance as an attempt to get rid of Jet2 from EMA, something that will not happen.
I know the bmi baby buffs will not like it but EMA has performed much better than projections, over the summer it consistently topped ancillary revenue targets out of all Jet2 UK bases, and the routes offered last summer had the highest load factor percentages after LBA.
Ryanair will always be the true low cost option and Jet2 certainly have lower operating costs than baby. It will be interesting to see what happens over the coming months.
I know the bmi baby buffs will not like it but EMA has performed much better than projections, over the summer it consistently topped ancillary revenue targets out of all Jet2 UK bases, and the routes offered last summer had the highest load factor percentages after LBA.
Ryanair will always be the true low cost option and Jet2 certainly have lower operating costs than baby. It will be interesting to see what happens over the coming months.