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Bangor Maine and the Gulf (fuel stop to Oz for Austravel) were within range when Britannia operated their 767's long haul. Twice in the early days (1989 & 1990) I flew on a B767-200 direct from Luton to Orlando, both flights were over 9 hours and the planes were full.
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I flew on a B767-200 direct from Luton to Orlando, both flights were over 9 hours and the planes were full
The ability to use the extra space not utilised for pax luggage is a key consideration, and I expect that your average charterer would make less use of such that SilverJet would have to in order to make their model work.
The weight saving from the seat removal will not be significant
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In theory yes, but as Buster has said, even fully loaded there is a 9 hr range....
Cargo; Silver Jet would not normally be carrying cargo, as the contract with existing carriers would still be running......
Now when the runway is wet, this is a different game.....what are the numbers with contamination....?????
I am not a 757 / 767 jockey, so need input here.....
Bumz
Cargo; Silver Jet would not normally be carrying cargo, as the contract with existing carriers would still be running......
Now when the runway is wet, this is a different game.....what are the numbers with contamination....?????
I am not a 757 / 767 jockey, so need input here.....
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Silver Jet would not normally be carrying cargo, as the contract with existing carriers would still be running
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Take a look at the silverjet website.
They have signed a deal for some of the TOM B767's and are negotiating for another a/c.
Can anyone in TOM confirm how far their -200 ER aircraft can go ex-LTN. I suspect a long, long way with 100 pax and a modest cargo load.
Good luck to them!
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They have signed a deal for some of the TOM B767's and are negotiating for another a/c.
Can anyone in TOM confirm how far their -200 ER aircraft can go ex-LTN. I suspect a long, long way with 100 pax and a modest cargo load.
Good luck to them!
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So two TOM 767s by 31 March & 31 Oct 2007, plus negotiations for three more, with the first due Nov 06 if deal can be concluded on time. Services to launch Dec 06 or Apr 07(if first aircraft deal not completed).
Thirty additional potential routes identified. Yeah right!!!!!
Bookings to begin three months prior to first flight. We shall see.
Thirty additional potential routes identified. Yeah right!!!!!
Bookings to begin three months prior to first flight. We shall see.
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Powerjet,
The key word was "potential" I think i.e. identified routes they could grow to grow into; not a commitment to operate! There are easily thirty routes that could support business class-only operations.
With regards to selling seats three months out, I think that is normal for any start-up.....probably even your current employer when it started out.
You sound quite acrimonious towards them. Have they upset you......... or have you something to fear from them?
Saxon
The key word was "potential" I think i.e. identified routes they could grow to grow into; not a commitment to operate! There are easily thirty routes that could support business class-only operations.
With regards to selling seats three months out, I think that is normal for any start-up.....probably even your current employer when it started out.
You sound quite acrimonious towards them. Have they upset you......... or have you something to fear from them?
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From Travel Mole http://www.travelmole.com/stories/110228.php?mpnlog=1
14 August, 2006
Silverjet issues market update
Silverjet, the new business class-only airline, has entered into a letter of intent to secure two Boeing 767-200 aircraft from ThomsonFly.
In a market update released today, Silverjet said the letter of intent provides for delivery of the two aircraft to Silverjet by no later than March 31 and October 31 2007 respectively.
In addition, it is in advanced negotiations to secure options over a further three aircraft of equivalent specification for delivery, in the case of the earliest aircraft of the three, by no later than November 1 2006.
"The outcome of these negotiations will be announced to the market in due course," it said.
The airline, which will fly from Luton Airport to New York Newark, is currently in negotiation with leasing companies and banks about financing options for these aircraft.
Silverjet said it was still on track for a December launch, but said if the aircraft negotiations were not concluded satisfactorily, it would commence operations by no later than April 2007.
It has also contracted to use Videcom's flight reservation system which will go live three months prior to Silverjet commencing operations, allowing it to take advance bookings from travel trade partners and direct from consumers.
The web-based system also has links with the major global distribution systems which will be further enhanced and implemented for Silverjet, enabling its dynamic fares and seat availability to be displayed to thousands of travel agents, travel management companies, travel web sites and tour operators.
It has also contracted with Sicma Aeroseat to acquire its award winning new 75 inch flat beds for each of its aircraft.
The first batch of seats is scheduled for delivery in November.
Silverjet chief executive Lawrence Hunt said: "The countdown now begins to Silverjet's launch, when our customers will be able to enjoy an industry beating 30 minute check-in, an award winning flat bed, an average £999 fare and a premium in-flight service.
Silverjet intends to achieve an average London New York return fare of £999 on a fully flexible basis and intends to develop further low fare, all business class services operating on long haul routes.
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14 August, 2006
Silverjet issues market update
Silverjet, the new business class-only airline, has entered into a letter of intent to secure two Boeing 767-200 aircraft from ThomsonFly.
In a market update released today, Silverjet said the letter of intent provides for delivery of the two aircraft to Silverjet by no later than March 31 and October 31 2007 respectively.
In addition, it is in advanced negotiations to secure options over a further three aircraft of equivalent specification for delivery, in the case of the earliest aircraft of the three, by no later than November 1 2006.
"The outcome of these negotiations will be announced to the market in due course," it said.
The airline, which will fly from Luton Airport to New York Newark, is currently in negotiation with leasing companies and banks about financing options for these aircraft.
Silverjet said it was still on track for a December launch, but said if the aircraft negotiations were not concluded satisfactorily, it would commence operations by no later than April 2007.
It has also contracted to use Videcom's flight reservation system which will go live three months prior to Silverjet commencing operations, allowing it to take advance bookings from travel trade partners and direct from consumers.
The web-based system also has links with the major global distribution systems which will be further enhanced and implemented for Silverjet, enabling its dynamic fares and seat availability to be displayed to thousands of travel agents, travel management companies, travel web sites and tour operators.
It has also contracted with Sicma Aeroseat to acquire its award winning new 75 inch flat beds for each of its aircraft.
The first batch of seats is scheduled for delivery in November.
Silverjet chief executive Lawrence Hunt said: "The countdown now begins to Silverjet's launch, when our customers will be able to enjoy an industry beating 30 minute check-in, an award winning flat bed, an average £999 fare and a premium in-flight service.
Silverjet intends to achieve an average London New York return fare of £999 on a fully flexible basis and intends to develop further low fare, all business class services operating on long haul routes.
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The airline also said it had signed a letter of intent to acquire two Boeing 767-200 aircraft from Thomsonfly, with delivery dates of ‘no later’ than 31 March 2007 and 31 October 2007. In addition it is in advanced negotiations to secure options over a further three B767s, with delivery of the first expected no later than 1 November 2006. All of the aircraft will be reconfigured to take 102 75” flat beds, compared with up to 245 economy and business class seats in a standard B767.
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Someone else using the name?
Silverjet in Full Operation
Posted by Rich on Thursday, May 4, 2006
What is SilverJet?
SilverJet, a division of Pacific Airways, specializes in "on demand" charter as well as fractional ownership. We operate much in the same way companies like NetJets, Flight Options and FlexJet do. Our fleet consists of smaller, more luxurious aircraft, designed to take it's customers to smaller, less crowded airports, relieving our passengers of the stresses of airline travel. In a nutshell, this means pilots flying for SilverJet can find themselves flying to a whole new world of airports in smaller, faster aircraft, sometimes empty, sometimes with pax or cargo or both, at all times of the day and night!
What planes are in the Fleet?
The fleet is designed to provide options for our customers depending on their needs. We offer several aircraft all varying in size as well as performance. Our fleet currently consists of the Raytheon King Air 350, Cessna Citation II, Bombardier Lear Jet 45 and the Gulfstream IV.
Silverjet in Full Operation
Posted by Rich on Thursday, May 4, 2006
What is SilverJet?
SilverJet, a division of Pacific Airways, specializes in "on demand" charter as well as fractional ownership. We operate much in the same way companies like NetJets, Flight Options and FlexJet do. Our fleet consists of smaller, more luxurious aircraft, designed to take it's customers to smaller, less crowded airports, relieving our passengers of the stresses of airline travel. In a nutshell, this means pilots flying for SilverJet can find themselves flying to a whole new world of airports in smaller, faster aircraft, sometimes empty, sometimes with pax or cargo or both, at all times of the day and night!
What planes are in the Fleet?
The fleet is designed to provide options for our customers depending on their needs. We offer several aircraft all varying in size as well as performance. Our fleet currently consists of the Raytheon King Air 350, Cessna Citation II, Bombardier Lear Jet 45 and the Gulfstream IV.
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Things seem to be progressing for the company and acquisition of a third aircraft, to enable the airline to launch in December, seems quite likely. Saw this, a bit of which was taken from their website....
"Following our letter of intent to secure two Boeing 767-200 aircraft from Thomsonfly Limited, we are pleased to announce that, on 19th September 2006, we entered into a letter of intent for $37 million of financing with Novus Aviation Limited to sell and lease back, and to fund the refurbishment and fit out of the two aircraft. The arrangements extend for a period of ten years and include, within the fit out, the purchase and installation of the new Sicma flat beds.
Negotiations to secure a third Boeing 767-200 are at an advanced stage and a further announcement will be issued in due course. We are also putting the final preparations in place to start taking bookings soon. A call centre will support our website and will go live on the same day".
"Following our letter of intent to secure two Boeing 767-200 aircraft from Thomsonfly Limited, we are pleased to announce that, on 19th September 2006, we entered into a letter of intent for $37 million of financing with Novus Aviation Limited to sell and lease back, and to fund the refurbishment and fit out of the two aircraft. The arrangements extend for a period of ten years and include, within the fit out, the purchase and installation of the new Sicma flat beds.
Negotiations to secure a third Boeing 767-200 are at an advanced stage and a further announcement will be issued in due course. We are also putting the final preparations in place to start taking bookings soon. A call centre will support our website and will go live on the same day".
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So Silverjet have acquired Flyjet. This taken from their website....
Silverjet, the British all business class low-fare airline to operate between London and New York , today announces that it has acquired the whole of the issued share capital of two related businesses, Flyjet and Skylease.
The acquisition of Skylease secures for Silverjet an additional Boeing 767 aircraft which will be its launch aircraft.
The aggregate consideration for the acquisition of Flyjet and Skylease will be between £4.0 million and £5.5 million in cash payable over a period of three years, dependent on the performance of the businesses and net assets at completion. The lease cost of the Boeing 767 is below both current market rates and the parameters in Silverjet’s business plan.
The acquisition of Flyjet, an international passenger airline, gives Silverjet immediate access to an Air Operator’s Certificate (“AOC”), Operating Licence and a worldwide Route Licence. This means that Silverjet will not need to outsource the operation of its aircraft to a third party, nor will it need to apply for its own AOC. As a consequence, Silverjet will achieve significant operating and capital expenditure savings and will be able to commence operations within a matter of months.
Skylease also leases two additional aircraft, both Boeing 757s, which are currently chartered to various tour operators through Flyjet.
Silverjet expects to formally announce the launch date for its inaugural all-business class service to New York within the next few weeks at which point the reservation system for advance bookings will go live. Last week, the Company has also been granted an Air Travel Organiser’s Licence by the UK Civil Aviation Authority.
Lawrence Hunt , Chief Executive Officer of Silverjet commented:
“The acquisitions we have announced today mean that Silverjet will be ready for take off within three to four months. Launching Silverjet in such a short period of time following our successful IPO is a significant achievement for our management team.
Silverjet is the first British airline to offer an all business class service. Our customers will be able to enjoy an industry beating 30 minute check in from a private jet terminal at London Luton an average £999 return fare and an award winning flat bed.
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Silverjet, the British all business class low-fare airline to operate between London and New York , today announces that it has acquired the whole of the issued share capital of two related businesses, Flyjet and Skylease.
The acquisition of Skylease secures for Silverjet an additional Boeing 767 aircraft which will be its launch aircraft.
The aggregate consideration for the acquisition of Flyjet and Skylease will be between £4.0 million and £5.5 million in cash payable over a period of three years, dependent on the performance of the businesses and net assets at completion. The lease cost of the Boeing 767 is below both current market rates and the parameters in Silverjet’s business plan.
The acquisition of Flyjet, an international passenger airline, gives Silverjet immediate access to an Air Operator’s Certificate (“AOC”), Operating Licence and a worldwide Route Licence. This means that Silverjet will not need to outsource the operation of its aircraft to a third party, nor will it need to apply for its own AOC. As a consequence, Silverjet will achieve significant operating and capital expenditure savings and will be able to commence operations within a matter of months.
Skylease also leases two additional aircraft, both Boeing 757s, which are currently chartered to various tour operators through Flyjet.
Silverjet expects to formally announce the launch date for its inaugural all-business class service to New York within the next few weeks at which point the reservation system for advance bookings will go live. Last week, the Company has also been granted an Air Travel Organiser’s Licence by the UK Civil Aviation Authority.
Lawrence Hunt , Chief Executive Officer of Silverjet commented:
“The acquisitions we have announced today mean that Silverjet will be ready for take off within three to four months. Launching Silverjet in such a short period of time following our successful IPO is a significant achievement for our management team.
Silverjet is the first British airline to offer an all business class service. Our customers will be able to enjoy an industry beating 30 minute check in from a private jet terminal at London Luton an average £999 return fare and an award winning flat bed.
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This looks like a good deal.
For £4m they get the aircraft they need, at a better price than they expected.
They get an AOC, meaning they don't need to pay to borrow someone else's and/or acquire their own.
They get systems, management, cash-flow, suppliers, aircrew, cabin crew, etc without start-up costs.
They get a couple of 757s thrown in, with a year's contracts in place.
And since the Chairman of Silverjet is also Chairman of FJE, presumably he hasn't sold himself a pup.
Roll on Silverjet, Luton to the World...
For £4m they get the aircraft they need, at a better price than they expected.
They get an AOC, meaning they don't need to pay to borrow someone else's and/or acquire their own.
They get systems, management, cash-flow, suppliers, aircrew, cabin crew, etc without start-up costs.
They get a couple of 757s thrown in, with a year's contracts in place.
And since the Chairman of Silverjet is also Chairman of FJE, presumably he hasn't sold himself a pup.
Roll on Silverjet, Luton to the World...
Or:
They get an AOC
They get no management as current FJE people are out
They get appalling cashflow problems as a legacy from FJE
They get two 757s with a set of charter contracts which aren't remotely relevant to the core business of flying Luton-transatlantic business class
They get a 767 which has an interesting track record with the CAA as their launch aircraft.
There are two ways of dressing up the same deal!
They get an AOC
They get no management as current FJE people are out
They get appalling cashflow problems as a legacy from FJE
They get two 757s with a set of charter contracts which aren't remotely relevant to the core business of flying Luton-transatlantic business class
They get a 767 which has an interesting track record with the CAA as their launch aircraft.
There are two ways of dressing up the same deal!
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Oh dear, it isn't going to be another Now Airlines is it? I was burned with that and lost my appetite for aviation altogether, all the false expectations, all the promises of expansion, all the time taken to train up the crews, the offices were all up and running, the web site was all set, I was helping set the web site up, it looked good, then one letter saying thats it, all over and not a sausage since.
Any confirmed start date? we had three or four of those with Now and still nothing took off. I guess I will watch from afar, it was pure fluke I signed into pprune today to catch up, and now there is another "start up" and all the comments sound so familiar.
Teachin
Any confirmed start date? we had three or four of those with Now and still nothing took off. I guess I will watch from afar, it was pure fluke I signed into pprune today to catch up, and now there is another "start up" and all the comments sound so familiar.
Teachin
I would doubt that it is going to be "Now Airlines - the sequel" as I do think Silverjet will fly. With £25m of shareholder funding raised through a stock market listing, it has to do something, and shortage of funds surely cannot prevent it getting airborne. Quite how much of the £25m will disappear in paying off FlyJet's creditors is another debate, but it certainly shouldn't stop Silverjet getting off the ground.