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Nobody wants the airport, they all want the land its sat on
Just take a few other ex military airfields around, who would ever have imagined Lasham to remain successful after all these years, just look at what they've achieved at Kemble, the owners of Kemble have tried for something similar at Llanbedr but alas, Dunsfold have achieved what seems to be a profitable business, Church Fenton is trying to make a go of things and none of these, well perhaps Kemble being in a particularly beautiful part of the country, have location in their favour.
They're making their money from flying club activities, from aircraft recycling, aircraft parking/storage, maintenance, film shoots etc. and not one of them from cargo movements.
This Dixon character, as the other doc posted, has forecast freight and passenger movements up to some 25 years in advance but she hasn't forecast any general aviation movements or any aircraft parking/storage revenue whilst she simply doesn't realise that Manston's runway isn't long enough for heavy freighters.
She can waffle away at Cranfield as much as she likes, she can be a member of the Royal Aeronautical Society, I'm sure these look great on her CV, but how many general aviation owners/pilots did she talk with, did she enquire of any of the big boys regarding developing an out of town maintenance facility at Manson as CWL did with BA, how many heavy freighter loadsheets has she prepared, does she know the first damn thing about runway performance etc. etc. etc?
Ex military airfields without location in their favour can make for a viable business but they need to multi-task because it's very hard to make money in aviation.
But then these people aren't interested in making money in aviation ... They just want the real estate!
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Dunsfold may operate profitably, but its not because of aviation. Any profit is generated by hiring out the runway for non aviation activity to the likes of Top Gear, Mc Claren etc and renting out old hangars to non aviation businesses.
If the owners could get planning consent for housing, which they have tried many times to do, they'd shut the airfield down overnight.
Again its the case of not the airfield, but the land its sat on.
Dunsfold may operate profitably, but its not because of aviation. Any profit is generated by hiring out the runway for non aviation activity to the likes of Top Gear, Mc Claren etc and renting out old hangars to non aviation businesses.
If the owners could get planning consent for housing, which they have tried many times to do, they'd shut the airfield down overnight.
Again its the case of not the airfield, but the land its sat on.
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Harry Wayfarers
Dunsfold may operate profitably, but its not because of aviation. Any profit is generated by hiring out the runway for non aviation activity to the likes of Top Gear, Mc Claren etc and renting out old hangars to non aviation businesses.
If the owners could get planning consent for housing, which they have tried many times to do, they'd shut the airfield down overnight.
Again its the case of not the airfield, but the land its sat on.
Dunsfold may operate profitably, but its not because of aviation. Any profit is generated by hiring out the runway for non aviation activity to the likes of Top Gear, Mc Claren etc and renting out old hangars to non aviation businesses.
If the owners could get planning consent for housing, which they have tried many times to do, they'd shut the airfield down overnight.
Again its the case of not the airfield, but the land its sat on.
They're making their money from flying club activities, from aircraft recycling, aircraft parking/storage, maintenance, film shoots etc. and not one of them from cargo movements.
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Videos of Sir Roger Gale and Craig Mackinley (both standing again for parliament), and Tony Freudmann, Director of RiverOak, all talking about Manston Airport.
2017-05-14 - Sir Roger Gale - Arrows BBQ - P1040174
https://youtu.be/oJVi92OMhsc
2017-05-14 - Tony Freudmann - Arrows BBQ - P1040172
https://youtu.be/H9yxURWU3Y0
2017-05-14 - TF Q&A - Craig Mackinlay - Arrows BBQ - P1040173
https://youtu.be/0e6H5hN9Huo
2017-05-14 - Sir Roger Gale - Arrows BBQ - P1040174
https://youtu.be/oJVi92OMhsc
2017-05-14 - Tony Freudmann - Arrows BBQ - P1040172
https://youtu.be/H9yxURWU3Y0
2017-05-14 - TF Q&A - Craig Mackinlay - Arrows BBQ - P1040173
https://youtu.be/0e6H5hN9Huo
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I just thought I would post this from the Dr's LinkedIn profile. Just because you have a PhD from Canfield doesn't automatically make you an expert on airports.
'The focus of her ground breaking doctoral research at Cranfield was on stakeholder involvement in decision-making. Sally is a leader in the field of stakeholder consultation on major infrastructure projects and has a track record for delivering workable, innovative solutions to the issues faced by organisations today.'
'The focus of her ground breaking doctoral research at Cranfield was on stakeholder involvement in decision-making. Sally is a leader in the field of stakeholder consultation on major infrastructure projects and has a track record for delivering workable, innovative solutions to the issues faced by organisations today.'
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Videos of Sir Roger Gale and Craig Mackinley (both standing again for parliament), and Tony Freudmann, Director of RiverOak, all talking about Manston Airport.
2017-05-14 - Sir Roger Gale - Arrows BBQ - P1040174
https://youtu.be/oJVi92OMhsc
2017-05-14 - Tony Freudmann - Arrows BBQ - P1040172
https://youtu.be/H9yxURWU3Y0
2017-05-14 - TF Q&A - Craig Mackinlay - Arrows BBQ - P1040173
https://youtu.be/0e6H5hN9Huo
2017-05-14 - Sir Roger Gale - Arrows BBQ - P1040174
https://youtu.be/oJVi92OMhsc
2017-05-14 - Tony Freudmann - Arrows BBQ - P1040172
https://youtu.be/H9yxURWU3Y0
2017-05-14 - TF Q&A - Craig Mackinlay - Arrows BBQ - P1040173
https://youtu.be/0e6H5hN9Huo
I`m just amazed that you can be taken in by 2 `snake oil salesmen` and a struck off solicitor
WTF ? Who?s Tony Freudmann? ? Herne Bay Matters
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Videos of Sir Roger Gale and Craig Mackinley (both standing again for parliament), and Tony Freudmann, Director of RiverOak, all talking about Manston Airport.
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Tony Freudmann
- Was a solicitor until he was struck off.
- Recently appointed as an MD at RiverOak and their only Director with any experience of running an airport
- Responsible for airport acquisition strategy at Wiggins. MD at Manston when its owner went into administration. All the airports acquired for Wiggins by Mr Freudmann were former military bases with “ample availability of surrounding land which can be developed using the real estate experience of Wiggins.” All the airports acquired by Mr Freudmann failed, either as a result of breach of contract, voluntary liquidation, non-payment of rent and/or heavy losses. One of these was Lahr Airport in Germany – more of that airport anon
- Having been “let go” by Wiggins, he bought up a number of travel companies. Under his ownership, they went to the wall. Also tried to establish a new route from Manston to Norfolk, Virginia. Secured public funding for the flights. Not one flight took off and the public investment was lost completely
- As a representative of Integeral, in June 2012 approaches the new owners of Lahr Airport with a business plan to make a commercial success of the airport focussing on freight, teardown, and being the base for a new West African airline (sound familiar?). A few months later, the wage bill for workers at Lahr ceases to be paid
- In 2013, introduced Ann Gloag to the opportunity to purchase Manston Airport and Prestwick Airport. He then tried to buy Manston Airport himself from Ms Gloag. In anticipation of getting hold of the land, Mr Freudmann asks Thanet District Council if they will approve planning permission on the Northern Grass for 1,000 houses.
