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Old 11th Oct 2007, 16:46
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It is really pleasing to see that EMA has won two awards within 24 hours of each other. You can read about them on the airports website.

They are:
Best UK Regional Airport
World’s Leading Eco Friendly Airport

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Old 11th Oct 2007, 18:15
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World’s Leading Eco Friendly Airport

Maybe so, but on the down side, it apparently emits more carbon per year than the African state of Mali!! (BBC East Midlands newsreport this morning).

I cannot recall which pressure group came up with that gem - but it make you wonder how many African States' carbon emissions LHR is responsible for, using their measure - pretty much the whole continent I would reckon!
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Old 11th Oct 2007, 18:34
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I heard the same news report, most eco friendly in the world and it's still not good enough!

I wouldn't be surprised if Ratcliffe power station didn't chuck out more than EMA, mind you I guess the pressure group members all burn candles and generate electricity by water wheel..................oh, and don't go on holiday, don't have a car and refuse any post that's been near a plane...............
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 07:45
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It really is very simple, and a gem of the English language....

Environmentalists.



Edit: As I seem to have started a bit of a debate I should point out that this does not represent my views on the whole issue; it is merely intended as a bit of light amusement. If someone wants to start another thread (in an appropriate place) about the issues, I will happily contribute as appropriate.

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Old 12th Oct 2007, 16:50
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HeliCraig,

To take that line is an Ostrich like response to something that is happening; HOWEVER idiotic reports such as the one the BBC ran do nothing to further what should be a very serious debate on our, and our children's futures.
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 19:05
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BMI Baby expansion

The main casualty is Prague per the booking engine.

Goes from daily to 4 a week in January and 3 a week from February.

Jersey also only 4 a week from February (Mo, We, Thu, Sat)

Only checked the one week in February but Prague is showing as
Mon, Fri, Sunday.

Quite a cut but at least Easy fly as well

I am surprised by the cuts as i thought the new routes could
have been incorporated into the existing schedule but obviously not.

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stirling airways summer 2008

CPH 6 times per week up from 4 for summer timetable
OSL 3 times per week same as winter, days have changed
ARN not loaded for summer 2008 yet

CHARTER 2008
4 a/c tom/fca 1 a/c excel 2 a/c air/tcx same number as 2007

Do we now the aircraft nos for rynair/easyjet/bmi group/uk int
for summer 2008 yet ?

REGARDS
STUART

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Old 15th Oct 2007, 17:10
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Just had a look at Ryanairs timetable on a random day

Friday 8th February 08


Only has 5 departures in the morning
5 arrivals in the evening,


I thought they were putting 6 aircraft here this winter?


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Old 15th Oct 2007, 18:21
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I had a good look at the RYR situation a couple of weeks ago. There are definitely 6 aircraft fully utilised in the Summer timetable but I came to the conclusion that winter has been amended and No6 doesn't now seem to be needed until April. To accommodate some of the new winter routes, some of the current routes are now to be operated by outbased aircraft over the winter- the afternoon Dublin, Gerona on certain days and Alicante come to mind.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 18:30
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Just noticed for April that Ryanair have increased Belfast City to twice daily....


Week days - Early Morning Departure at 06.25
and week days - Late Departures at 16:00


also a early morning flight on saturday

and two flights on sunday,

bmi baby may have trouble on there belfast intl route now!



Can I also just say that the comment a few comments back in the forum suggested Thomsonfly were basing 4 aircraft here in 2008...

Oh a random friday there were only 3 departures on this morning and 3 arrivals in the evening, during June... if so when will the 4th aircraft be expected to arrive if that is going ahead...

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Old 15th Oct 2007, 20:37
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The statement include with the First Choice operation so i presume it will either be an extra 757 based with the other three aircraft (presumably like this summer 2x757 and a 738) or perhaps another 738.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 20:40
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WW EMA-GLA 5 hours late tonight, any ideas why?
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 20:54
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Not a good day for baby at EMA tonight

Glasgow 18:00 Landing at 22:15
Amsterdam 18:45 Landing at 22:15

Paris CDG 19:40 Delayed 22:50
Belfast Intl 21:50 Delayed
Glasgow 22:05 Delayed 01:35



I know that the Malaga was late departing this morning because of a tech aircraft, so that would have made the paris late, im not sure on the others...
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 21:25
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Glad I was off, then !
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 22:11
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Given the journey time EMA -GLA is only 40 mins - almost a five hour delay is a bit of a joke. You could almost have got a taxi quicker. Could have been me last week.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 23:33
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I'm far from bmibaby's biggest fan, but in fairness to them, delays happen to every airline, and are more inevitable if your fleet is ageing and the flights are operating from the airport which houses your maintenance base. The statistics, bizarrely, speak for themselves, bmibaby is the 2nd most punctual airline in the UK after Ryanair. I'm not sure how it works, whether 100% of flights are on time from every other base, but whatever it is, it's there in black and white. I say good job to tiny ops ...

Has anybody heard any more about possible extension and airline usage of the pier? Considering these stands negate the need for crossing boarding and deplaning pax, they should be popular with LCCs with tight turnarounds. The issue is clearly which airlines will or won't pay for coaching arriving pax. Also is it a given now that Servisair have had the FR contract extended?
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 19:36
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Is it just me, or is the arrivals area in East Midlands the most badly designed area of an airport ever. God knows what would happen if there was a fire! It is a total bottleneck. Every one is forced into a tiny space, and if its a wet day then through one set of doors, as the other will be out of order with a huge pile of kitchen towel underneath it to stop the water running off the roof pouring in. In addition to the passengers arriving, you have taxi drivers and relatives meeting, security staff and flight crew in the same tiny areas.
The ramp is a joke too. Metal pedestrian railings, and bits of plastic chain from some OAPs garden fence....please!
If only less money had been spent on the flashy shops in departures, and a bit more spent on the core business. Its an airport. Get the basics right first.
Rant over!
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 09:50
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Hi avrodamo
you sir, have hit the nail right right on the head with your comments about the layout and planning at E.M.A.The place is a complete dump, a ""mickey mouse " airport in every way and i have watched it get worse over the last couple of years ,but hey we have won "Best U.K reginal airport again!!!!! HOW THE HELL DO THESE THINGS GET JUDGJED?? Is it the new design at immigration and arrivals which mean that the queue of passengers often stretch back to the bus drop off point when more than two planes arrive together.these poor souls have just returned from somewhere sunny and now have to queue outside in the rain,snow biting wind,etc. because there are only two immigration guys at work!!!Could it be the complete lack of appeal to long haul,top airlinesetc due to thier stubbourness to even consider AIR BRIDGES ,something that was suggested 20 years ago. Or what about the constant urge for little ""add on bits"" instead of demolishing the old scruffy and building something new?Sorry i forgot the new pier ,OHthe one that is unused from 07-30 until 20-30.And finally RYANAIR.Lets close the Flying Club and demolish the building to make an access road to the D.H.L. ramp to cover the Ryanair expansion,errrr, wake up and smell the the roses there aint no Ryanair expansion.5 PLANES NOW STILL 5 PLANES NEXT APRIL!!!!The airport sold its soul to Ryanair and now theyve kicked them up the arse with no extra based planes.
Rant over i,m going for a lie down now
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Hi stuart -travel
I hope lee has given you better "info" about Ryanair 2008 because the winter 2007/8 programme we were told about aint happening""" Like i said before 5 PLANES NOW AND STILL 5 PLANES IN WINTER.
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Avrodamo and END BAG, I couldn't agree more about the facilities and seeming lack of direction at the airport over the last few years. But I think that at least some of the blame for this has to be heaped upon Manchester, they hold the purse strings very tightly, and the airport is only allowed to spend what it makes in net profit each year, and any spending has to be thoroughly justified before it can go ahead. This leads to the 'add on' mentality, as this is much cheaper than doing what really needs to be done.

I recently started to think the unthinkable, namely that ownership under National Express was more beneficial to the business (although not the employees) than ownership by MAN. Between 1994 and 2000, the airport got a new runway, departures building, control tower, eastern cargo apron, Cargo 4, not to mention Cargo West and DHL. Its hard to see any similar expansion being approved under the present regime.

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