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Great route to have from BRS, hopefully tie in with the Swiss network ex ZRH which is pretty vast I believe as well as serving ski market. Bit worrying for CWL as they have had flight all summer, but now sharing with BRS must be bit of kick in the teeth, but guess it all boils down to yeilds in the end
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Helvetic
That's correct all look like they will be operating Zurich-Bristol-Cardiff-Zurich
Arrival @ 0830 into BRS
Arrival @ 0925 into CWL
Depart @ 1000 from CWL
Depart @ 1055 from BRS
Only the CWL flights does it state the flight operates via BRS in both directions! Flights to and from BRS are direct!
Strange way of doing it though!
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Well. Interesting.
"Yay" for a direct route to ZRH, where I seem to be spending a lot of time recently. "Boo" that it's not a *A carrier, so can't use ZRH as a hub. "Huh?" for the decision to operate onto CWL and back again (I mean, seriously? I know LX do GVA-ZRH as a route in Switzerland, but that's hardly the same. Part of me is wondering if the Welsh Assembly dangled a subsidy carrot at them), and "Hmmm" to see if they offer it as a codeshare with LX, which some Helvetic routes are operated under.
Guess my offer to BD to come operate from BRS has gone to the wall.
"Yay" for a direct route to ZRH, where I seem to be spending a lot of time recently. "Boo" that it's not a *A carrier, so can't use ZRH as a hub. "Huh?" for the decision to operate onto CWL and back again (I mean, seriously? I know LX do GVA-ZRH as a route in Switzerland, but that's hardly the same. Part of me is wondering if the Welsh Assembly dangled a subsidy carrot at them), and "Hmmm" to see if they offer it as a codeshare with LX, which some Helvetic routes are operated under.
Guess my offer to BD to come operate from BRS has gone to the wall.
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Yes, once BA get hold of BMI, that will be as per recent history, and they will cut operations from regionals as with Brymon.But take heart, the airports big announcement re full service airlines must be soon as they have said !!!!!
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the airports big announcement re full service airlines must be soon as they have said !!!!!
Having look at the schedule, it's going to require some very creative scheduling of meetings to make it fit into business. And it seems to be only scheduled until 23-MAR?
I've flown Helvetic aircraft on SWISS flight numbers, but it turns out that 4 of their 6 F100's are on wet lease to SWISS, and the other 2 on "leisure" routes. So certainly no LX codeshares there. (I remember when the Sabena flight to BRU was codeshared with Swissair - both of whom went bust).
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bmi regional have applied for Summer 2012 slots at FRA for a BRS service. Some of their requests haven't been cleared, and others have been cleared at vastly different times to what they applied for.
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Oh boy.
Just as BD do something useful, they get sold to BA.
Three outcomes:
It looks like it was scheduled out of BRS at 04:30, if they wanted an 07:10 slot at FRA for inbound. Early, but good for connecting into FRA hubbed flights to the rest of Europe.
Just as BD do something useful, they get sold to BA.
Three outcomes:
- It's BD mainline, will be sold to BA, and they'll dump the route because it's not LHR-XXX
- It's BD mainline, will be sold to BA, and then won't be able to interline/codeshare with FRA-based airlines
- It's BD regional, will be sold to independent venture, who will not have a codeshare/interline agreement with any of the FRA-based airlines.
It looks like it was scheduled out of BRS at 04:30, if they wanted an 07:10 slot at FRA for inbound. Early, but good for connecting into FRA hubbed flights to the rest of Europe.
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0430!
It is hard enough to get customers to check in for a 0630-0700 flight so even with the possibility of connections I think AF/KL will do better with their flights a few hours later...!
It is hard enough to get customers to check in for a 0630-0700 flight so even with the possibility of connections I think AF/KL will do better with their flights a few hours later...!
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Good point. I just realised that it's 0710Z in the summertime, so 0810 CEST, which means 0530 BST from BRS. I'd do that, particularly if it meant arriving at my European destination before 10:00.
Largely an irrelevant question now though.
Largely an irrelevant question now though.
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Re the slot times. EMA originally got cleared for some awful times, but in the end bmi regional worked out a decent schedule
And one other scenario is that bmi regional applied for the slots under LH instructions, and that LH will 'retain' any allocated FRA slots when they sell bmi regional, in order to start BRS-FRA using one of their regional airlines
And one other scenario is that bmi regional applied for the slots under LH instructions, and that LH will 'retain' any allocated FRA slots when they sell bmi regional, in order to start BRS-FRA using one of their regional airlines
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Looking for the silver lining, it's possible that the new BD-R owners (BusinessAir?) might continue to operate wetlease flights on behalf of LH (and SN). LH said they had a strategy to increase flights from the regions to LH Hubs, so maybe this is their way of executing that strategy?
We'd be in the same boat as EMA.
We'd be in the same boat as EMA.
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I cannot imagine BMI would be going to all the expense and trouble of starting this one up if they did not think it was ever going to get off the ground (in the literal sense).
I would imagine:
A) Either LH or a subsidiary over the route when BMI is sold
OR
B) BD Regional is not purchased by BA but a third party who maintain a relationship with *A and the BD Regional brand, flights, etc.
I would imagine:
A) Either LH or a subsidiary over the route when BMI is sold
OR
B) BD Regional is not purchased by BA but a third party who maintain a relationship with *A and the BD Regional brand, flights, etc.
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"Boo" that it's not a *A carrier, so can't use ZRH as a hub. "Huh?" for the decision to operate onto CWL and back again (I mean, seriously? I know LX do GVA-ZRH as a route in Switzerland, but that's hardly the same. Part of me is wondering if the Welsh Assembly dangled a subsidy carrot at them),
Helvetic is a good airline, punctual on the whole even with their small fleet of 6 x Fokker 100 aircraft.
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October pax
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October 2011 532532 -3.1% rolling year 5747993 -0.5%
ATM's 4713 -5.6% rolling year 53054 -2%
These like BHX seem disappointing and again I assume IT related
rather than any downturn in schedules?
BHX had a few Bristol diverts yesterday and the two easy's that came in
at around 5.30-6pm didn't seem to have any flights to do afterwards
per the BRS departure although the same could be said for the FR divert.
There were other easy departures (EDI, GLA & NCL) but it looked
fairly quiet but I guess Wednesday's in winter are never great.
Pete
October 2011 532532 -3.1% rolling year 5747993 -0.5%
ATM's 4713 -5.6% rolling year 53054 -2%
These like BHX seem disappointing and again I assume IT related
rather than any downturn in schedules?
BHX had a few Bristol diverts yesterday and the two easy's that came in
at around 5.30-6pm didn't seem to have any flights to do afterwards
per the BRS departure although the same could be said for the FR divert.
There were other easy departures (EDI, GLA & NCL) but it looked
fairly quiet but I guess Wednesday's in winter are never great.
Pete
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South Bristol Link Road
In today's Autumn Statement the Chancellor announced government funding to assist with the construction of the South Bristol Link Road from the A370 at Long Ashton to the A38 at Bedminster Down. Without such government funding the road would not be built though the local authorities have to find their share of the costs, something they seem confident of achieving.
The road would remove the tiresome journey through the congested suburbs of Ashton and Bedminster for those travelling to the airport via the motorways/Avonmouth/A4 Portway.
It would also open up far easier access to the neglected outer suburbs of south Bristol, the city's Achilles heel in an otherwise vibrant economic scene, which could also benefit the airport if companies move into this area.
The road would remove the tiresome journey through the congested suburbs of Ashton and Bedminster for those travelling to the airport via the motorways/Avonmouth/A4 Portway.
It would also open up far easier access to the neglected outer suburbs of south Bristol, the city's Achilles heel in an otherwise vibrant economic scene, which could also benefit the airport if companies move into this area.