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Hi James,
I can confirm that TOM will have two 757's based at BRS again this winter.
The second aircraft will be on the ground a bit more this winter than last, but still enough flying to warrant both; particularly around Christmas/ ski season periods.
Regards,
Pez.
I can confirm that TOM will have two 757's based at BRS again this winter.
The second aircraft will be on the ground a bit more this winter than last, but still enough flying to warrant both; particularly around Christmas/ ski season periods.
Regards,
Pez.
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BMI Baby are coming to Bristol. This winter they will be operating a series of ski flights. Suspected of being twice a day to where and the actual dates I do not currently know.
Work the the ramp extension now seems to be imminent, three new stands at the far end of the western apron should be completed early next year.
Work the the ramp extension now seems to be imminent, three new stands at the far end of the western apron should be completed early next year.
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BMI Baby are coming to Bristol, they are due to operate a series of ski flights this winter. Exact details are not known but I believe there are two flights a week timings and destinations unknown.
The work on extending the ramp is imminent. This will provide three new stands at the far end of the western apron. Work should be completed well in time for next summer.by ea
The work on extending the ramp is imminent. This will provide three new stands at the far end of the western apron. Work should be completed well in time for next summer.by ea
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Can we assume that the bmibaby flights are on behalf of another company as ski charters? Only because I really can't imagine they'd survive if they go it alone at BRS against the big boys (i.e. FR & EZY) along with a number of other ski operators through the winter!
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I had the same thought fanrail, but I wonder which carrier(s) baby would replace.
Last winter BRS had the following weekly ski charter flights throughout the season:
Saturdays
Thomas Cook A320 Salzburg
Thomson B 757 Salzburg
Balkan Holidays A320 Sofia
Titan Boeing 733 Chambery
Thomson Boeing 757 Geneva
Thomson Boeing 757 Chambery
Thomas Cook A320 Grenoble
Thomson Boeing 757 Verona
Thomson Boeing 757 Sofia
Sundays
Thomas Cook A320 Turin
Thomson Boeing 757 Turin
Thomson Boeing 757 Toulouse
Small Planet Boeing 733 Chambery
Flybe Embraer 195 Toulouse
Flybe Embraer 195 Geneva
Thomas Cook A320 Kittila
In addition there was a total 31 weekly rotations by easyJet to Geneva, Innsbruck, Salzburg, Lyon, Grenoble and Toulouse, with Ryanair also serving Girona at 3 x weekly that also gives access to some ski resorts.
easyJet appears to have maintained its schedule for the coming winter which again includes 18 x weekly to Geneva (4 x daily on both Sats and Suns). However, Ryanair has axed its route to Girona this winter.
There is a new ski destination from BRS this winter with Flybe operating weekly to the new Spanish airport of Lleida-Alguaire which serves the Pyrenees.
BRS has had an exceptionally strong winter ski programme for an airport of its size going back many years but it does seem unlikely that there would be room to add a great deal of capacity to this at the moment having regard to these straitened times.
Last winter BRS had the following weekly ski charter flights throughout the season:
Saturdays
Thomas Cook A320 Salzburg
Thomson B 757 Salzburg
Balkan Holidays A320 Sofia
Titan Boeing 733 Chambery
Thomson Boeing 757 Geneva
Thomson Boeing 757 Chambery
Thomas Cook A320 Grenoble
Thomson Boeing 757 Verona
Thomson Boeing 757 Sofia
Sundays
Thomas Cook A320 Turin
Thomson Boeing 757 Turin
Thomson Boeing 757 Toulouse
Small Planet Boeing 733 Chambery
Flybe Embraer 195 Toulouse
Flybe Embraer 195 Geneva
Thomas Cook A320 Kittila
In addition there was a total 31 weekly rotations by easyJet to Geneva, Innsbruck, Salzburg, Lyon, Grenoble and Toulouse, with Ryanair also serving Girona at 3 x weekly that also gives access to some ski resorts.
easyJet appears to have maintained its schedule for the coming winter which again includes 18 x weekly to Geneva (4 x daily on both Sats and Suns). However, Ryanair has axed its route to Girona this winter.
There is a new ski destination from BRS this winter with Flybe operating weekly to the new Spanish airport of Lleida-Alguaire which serves the Pyrenees.
BRS has had an exceptionally strong winter ski programme for an airport of its size going back many years but it does seem unlikely that there would be room to add a great deal of capacity to this at the moment having regard to these straitened times.
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BMI Baby
The scheduled BHX - GVA on a Saturday operates a "W" pattern and per one
online booking site WW7701/2 GVA-BRS-GVA at 11.20 in 11.50 out.
So at least one flight.
Also to confirm what MV has stated about Lleida-Alguaire BE9912/3 ILD-BRS-ILD in 13.15 out 14.15.
Now which airport has a ILD operating a "W" pattern on a Sunday.....BHX!
Not sure of the aircraft type.
Pete
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BMI Baby
The scheduled BHX - GVA on a Saturday operates a "W" pattern and per one
online booking site WW7701/2 GVA-BRS-GVA at 11.20 in 11.50 out.
So at least one flight.
Also to confirm what MV has stated about Lleida-Alguaire BE9912/3 ILD-BRS-ILD in 13.15 out 14.15.
Now which airport has a ILD operating a "W" pattern on a Sunday.....BHX!
Not sure of the aircraft type.
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Nothing on BRS website or BMIBaby website about this. Where did this rumour come from?
Also, didn't someone recently, very confidently announce that Jet2 would definitely be back this winter??? No news about that either.
Also, didn't someone recently, very confidently announce that Jet2 would definitely be back this winter??? No news about that either.
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The Geneva was not a rumour at the time of posting it was fact taken from a live website. I did not post the link as it is a commercial site and I know the mods frown upon this kind of thing.
I am not saying it will operate as it is a charter and these can get cancelled and airlines replaced but the aircraft appears to a BHX based unit.
It will never appear on the baby site as it is a charter. They don't offer it as part of their ski deals by the look of it but I have found it in Inghams with the same flight number.
Pete
The Geneva was not a rumour at the time of posting it was fact taken from a live website. I did not post the link as it is a commercial site and I know the mods frown upon this kind of thing.
I am not saying it will operate as it is a charter and these can get cancelled and airlines replaced but the aircraft appears to a BHX based unit.
It will never appear on the baby site as it is a charter. They don't offer it as part of their ski deals by the look of it but I have found it in Inghams with the same flight number.
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Ski Flights
The other bmibaby flight that has been mentioned is a charter flight to Chambery in France.
Sundays,
WW7901 Dep BRS @ 12.40
WW7902 Arr BRS @ 11.55
I found this on the Skitotal website!
On the Inghams website I have found this one to Innsbruck:
Austrian Airlines
OS9364 Dep BRS @ 10.25
OS9363 Arr BRS @ 08:50
Andrew
Sundays,
WW7901 Dep BRS @ 12.40
WW7902 Arr BRS @ 11.55
I found this on the Skitotal website!
On the Inghams website I have found this one to Innsbruck:
Austrian Airlines
OS9364 Dep BRS @ 10.25
OS9363 Arr BRS @ 08:50
Andrew
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It's a charter flight boys and girl,so no it won't be on the baby website, will operate Sat & Sun both are W patterns GVA & Chambery
The fact that the return is before the departure shows it's a W not a night stopper
But great to see some more winter flying over er the winter?
TLS also new or ski from EMA
The fact that the return is before the departure shows it's a W not a night stopper
But great to see some more winter flying over er the winter?
TLS also new or ski from EMA
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Cheerio SBAE...
Campaigners have been refused permission to bring a High Court challenge over plans for a major expansion at Bristol International Airport.
A judge told the Stop Bristol Airport Expansion Campaign, which fears a huge increase in flights and a doubling of carbon emissions, that they did not have a legally arguable case.
Nathalie Lieven QC, appearing for the group, had contended that North Somerset District Council's decision to give the expansion plans the go-ahead earlier this year was legally flawed.
Councillors considering the planning application were advised by council officers that climate change "was not a material consideration" to be taken into account by local planners as they were bound by Government policy as set out in the 2003 Air Transport White Paper (ATWP).
Ms Lieven argued the ATWP was now out of date. She said climate change was a local, as well as national and international issue, and therefore relevant to airport expansion.
Rejecting her argument, Mr Justice Collins ruled at London's High Court the advice given by the officers was not wrong.
He said: "The Government, for good or ill, has maintained the ATWP for the time being as the relevant policy document. It seems to me it cannot be an error of law for advice to be given to follow that policy."
Later campaign spokeswoman Hilary Burn said: "It is a very disappointing result by Mr Justice Collins that the ATWP of 2003 still stands.
"The Government now needs to review that document in the light of up-to-date information on climate change.
"It also needs to recognise that it is essential that local authorities taking decisions of this kind need to take take climate change into account."
Campaigners have been refused permission to bring a High Court challenge over plans for a major expansion at Bristol International Airport.
A judge told the Stop Bristol Airport Expansion Campaign, which fears a huge increase in flights and a doubling of carbon emissions, that they did not have a legally arguable case.
Nathalie Lieven QC, appearing for the group, had contended that North Somerset District Council's decision to give the expansion plans the go-ahead earlier this year was legally flawed.
Councillors considering the planning application were advised by council officers that climate change "was not a material consideration" to be taken into account by local planners as they were bound by Government policy as set out in the 2003 Air Transport White Paper (ATWP).
Ms Lieven argued the ATWP was now out of date. She said climate change was a local, as well as national and international issue, and therefore relevant to airport expansion.
Rejecting her argument, Mr Justice Collins ruled at London's High Court the advice given by the officers was not wrong.
He said: "The Government, for good or ill, has maintained the ATWP for the time being as the relevant policy document. It seems to me it cannot be an error of law for advice to be given to follow that policy."
Later campaign spokeswoman Hilary Burn said: "It is a very disappointing result by Mr Justice Collins that the ATWP of 2003 still stands.
"The Government now needs to review that document in the light of up-to-date information on climate change.
"It also needs to recognise that it is essential that local authorities taking decisions of this kind need to take take climate change into account."
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Judicial Review application rejected
The judge's rejection of the application for a judicial review was reported on both the local Bristol tv news channels (BBC and ITV) today early evening.
A spokeswoman for SBAE (no prizes for guessing who - she's always prominent as a member of the airport consultative committee) told the BBC they were reviewing the decision but at least they had delayed any expansion for several years and the recession meant airport passenger numbers are down anyway.
No immediate suggestion that they might try to pursue the matter further legally - I'm not sure how much further they could realistically take this without leaving themselves liable for a huge amount of money if things continued to turn against them.
A spokeswoman for SBAE (no prizes for guessing who - she's always prominent as a member of the airport consultative committee) told the BBC they were reviewing the decision but at least they had delayed any expansion for several years and the recession meant airport passenger numbers are down anyway.
No immediate suggestion that they might try to pursue the matter further legally - I'm not sure how much further they could realistically take this without leaving themselves liable for a huge amount of money if things continued to turn against them.
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I've just taken a look at the Stop Bristol Airport Expansion website. Imagine my surprise to find NOWHERE on the site where you can leave comments IN FAVOUR of the airport expansion.
What a complete load of spurious arguments they peddle, too. Hilarious how they think that stopping expansion at Bristol Airport will somehow save the planet. Perhaps them ceasing to spew hot air continuously on the subject, and stopping driving all over the South West to campaign meetings would help reduce CO2 emissions.
On a serious note, I would welcome expansion at Bristol, particularly to other regional destinations across Europe. The only thing I would add is a local public transport hub at the airport.
What a complete load of spurious arguments they peddle, too. Hilarious how they think that stopping expansion at Bristol Airport will somehow save the planet. Perhaps them ceasing to spew hot air continuously on the subject, and stopping driving all over the South West to campaign meetings would help reduce CO2 emissions.
On a serious note, I would welcome expansion at Bristol, particularly to other regional destinations across Europe. The only thing I would add is a local public transport hub at the airport.
I would add a motorway to the airfield! Still a nightmare having to drive through Bristol from east to west and then up the hill etc. Takes for ever.
Apart from that not having used the airfield for a year I do like the new boarding gates. It would be nice if the long term car park could be smoothed over - despite some of the charges one still parks over stones!
Nivsy
Apart from that not having used the airfield for a year I do like the new boarding gates. It would be nice if the long term car park could be smoothed over - despite some of the charges one still parks over stones!
Nivsy
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SBAE (Stop Bristol Airport Expansion)
An SBAE spokeswoman has been telling the local media that they cannot see a way to continue blocking the expansion plans.
Instead they will be monitoring each phase of the expansion, which they think will be built much more slowly than was envisaged pre-recession, to ensure the planning consents are closely followed. They will also be a voice to campaign for aviation to be made to recognise its climate change obligations.
So from being a local single-issue activist group they seem intent on taking on aviation nationally.
Instead they will be monitoring each phase of the expansion, which they think will be built much more slowly than was envisaged pre-recession, to ensure the planning consents are closely followed. They will also be a voice to campaign for aviation to be made to recognise its climate change obligations.
So from being a local single-issue activist group they seem intent on taking on aviation nationally.
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Thomas cook doing Skiathos next summer, just checked their website from the link on brs website and its all there, friday flights departing 7 am, nice to see return of this route and with a brs based aircraft.
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Skiathos
This one seems to come and go down the years.
Viking and Kiss tried it in summer 2010 with a joint route to Salonika which fizzled out when Kiss went bust in high summer that year and Viking all but disappeared from BRS at the same time. A shame to see the TOM route to Salonika axed this summer after many years.
I remember InterEuropean doing Skiathos from BRS in 1993. There was then a gap until 2002 when an airline called Nordic Air Link did the route that summer - I'm not sure who for.
The next three summers saw a joint route to Skiathos and Volos, in 2003 by an airline called Azzurria that had an A320 based at BRS that year and then the XL Group took it on, replacing Volos with Kavalla in 2006. XL last did it in 2007 but it was a single destination by then.
Salonika, Volos, Kavalla, Santorini, Chania (Crete), all Greek charter routes operated from BRS in the past ten years but no longer.
Let's hope that Thomas Cook can make a go of it.
Incidentally, I presume it will replace either Mahon or Tenerife, both of which have been TCX Friday morning departures in recent summers.
Viking and Kiss tried it in summer 2010 with a joint route to Salonika which fizzled out when Kiss went bust in high summer that year and Viking all but disappeared from BRS at the same time. A shame to see the TOM route to Salonika axed this summer after many years.
I remember InterEuropean doing Skiathos from BRS in 1993. There was then a gap until 2002 when an airline called Nordic Air Link did the route that summer - I'm not sure who for.
The next three summers saw a joint route to Skiathos and Volos, in 2003 by an airline called Azzurria that had an A320 based at BRS that year and then the XL Group took it on, replacing Volos with Kavalla in 2006. XL last did it in 2007 but it was a single destination by then.
Salonika, Volos, Kavalla, Santorini, Chania (Crete), all Greek charter routes operated from BRS in the past ten years but no longer.
Let's hope that Thomas Cook can make a go of it.
Incidentally, I presume it will replace either Mahon or Tenerife, both of which have been TCX Friday morning departures in recent summers.