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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 21:25
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LH do quite a lot of seasonal routes around Europe. Germans are voracious travellers, with the Euro -> Pound conversion rate as it is, having a holiday probably looks quite attractive.

I've been astounded by the number of Germans I've met who travel regularly to Dorset and Cornwall, primarily for hiking/walking holidays. I guess you just don't appreciate it as much when you're that much closer to it....

BRS-FRA is a workhorse feeder route, which needs to become a primary deliverer of traffic into the wider LH/*A network. DUS-NQY is a summer once-a-week only holiday route.

I'm on tomorrow's FRA at 06:40 (hello to any fellow travellers - I'll be in the lounge), and I suspect loads will be load. It's just going to take a dig in to get people off the KL AMS route, and to bring people away from LHR->Asia/Africa/Far East etc.
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DXB/BRS/DXB over FRA still showing AED13580 (approx £1835) on the LH website for end May.
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DXB/BRS/DXB over FRA still showing AED13580 (approx £1835) on the LH website for end May.
I just put this itinerary in to www.lufthansa.com, and it popped out at £722. (In Economy)?

Sun 25 May 01:35 Dubai 06:05 Frankfurt LH631
Sun 25 May 09:05 Frankfurt 09:55 Bristol LH4960
Mon 2 Jun 06:30 Bristol 09:15 Frankfurt LH4965
Mon 2 Jun 14:50 Frankfurt 22:45 Dubai LH630


That's not the lowest available fare. The lowest should be QLNRAE, at £289 / AED2120 plus tax (so about £545 inc. taxes).

Try running it again. It might give creedence to my theory that LH.com caches fares and only calculates them after it's been hit a few times. Or maybe it's borked on the lufthansa regional website in DXB?
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 09:00
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It would seem that there is a lot of interest in Germany to visit Cornwall at the moment due to the sucess of the author, Rosamunde Pilcher, who sets her books there.
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 14:39
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Rosamunde Pilcher
I was going to post something to that effect as well but I was conviced it was Maeve Binchy (until I found out that most of her books are set in Ireland) so in the end I said nothing.

Thanks for clearing that up for me though
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 16:38
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Brussels Airlines

Anyone have any idea why they've cancelled next Fridays flights to BRU - (that's the 2nd May)

Was due to fly out to BRU but got phone call from their call centre - now flying from Birmingham

At least I've manage to get flights but it's a bit of a pain in the butt, trying to use BRS as much as possible only to get pushed up the M5!!

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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 21:59
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> Not sure how many people picked up on this one, but LH
> offering NQY-DUS weekly from June
>

Blimey, if LH are having problems convincing their far-flung international outposts to add Bristol to the various fares tables, how on earth will the Asians and Americans be told where li'll ol' Newquay is!
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 22:17
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Anyone have any idea why they've cancelled next Fridays flights to BRU - (that's the 2nd May)
Next week in Belgium Thursday May 1st is a public holiday. Last year the (then) government declared Friday May 2nd to also be a public holiday.
Woohoo, long weekend!

Then the new-ish government reversed the May 2nd decision However it was too late for most companies who had already planned for the 1st and 2nd of May being public holidays.

In short, all businesses are closed next Thursday, and nearly all businesses are closed next Friday in Belgium.
Since BRU - BRS is a mainly business route, I imagine a significant lack of demand on the route for those dates.
In contrast, flights from Brussels to Spain, Italy, and anywhere kind of holiday-like are almost entirely sold out. I imagine the aircraft will be instead flying to Barcelona or the like.
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 22:20
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Blimey, if LH are having problems convincing their far-flung international outposts to add Bristol to the various fares tables, how on earth will the Asians and Americans be told where li'll ol' Newquay is!
I doubt they'll be adding NQY to their fare destinations and routings outside of, well, DUS. DUS isn't much of an LH hub, so I guess it's being run more as a point to point service.

There's a full set of fares loaded for DUS-NQY, but nothing apparently for anywhere else (FRA, INN, MUC, SIN), although you can usually combine the -FLYLH farebasis with other stuff, so you could piece it together yourself.

It's more concerning that BRS isn't showing up in some of the other parts of the LH empire, not least because that route will need to demonstrate its feeding into the long-haul network.

Incidentally, 31 people on this mornings LH4965 (06:40) to FRA. Not brilliant, but not as bad I had braced myself for. We're still only 4 weeks in, and I did spot a few Flying Blue tags on rucksacks.
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Bristol Passes 6 Million Pax Mark

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/bris...ews-220408.htm

6 million and rising!
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 09:44
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Cornwall is VERY popular with the Germans in the summer, and they're always keen to spend their money down our end. As far as I can see, they're only allowing connections onto domestic German markets..which kind of makes sense as this is a purely German market thing.


DEP NEWQUAY AS LH4889
OPPED BY LH EUROWINGS EQUIP: CRJ200
DEP NQY: 12:05
ARR DUS:
14:40

DEP Dusseldorf AS LH4888
OPPED BY LH EUROWINGS EQUIP: CRJ200
DEP DUS: 10:55
ARR NQY: 11:35

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Old 24th Apr 2008, 16:21
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BRS -BRU service

Thanks for that info on why it's cancelled.

But you'd have thought they could have sorted it out sooner.

Although you say the flight is mainly business, why are the Birmingham flights not affected??

Sorry Brussels Airlines won't be using you again

M4 and BMI in future.

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Old 24th Apr 2008, 18:56
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M4 and BMI in future.
How about using the BD-codeshare from BRS? (The one that LH operates, via FRA...).
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 19:44
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BD codeshare

Yes I suppose that's a possibility - all depends on connection times.....and...PRICE

Can't understand why they're cancelling out of BRS both the Friday and Saturday, yet operating full service from Birmingham??

At least the call centre were helpful enough to get me and the rest of my 'party' on the flight from Birmingham.
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 19:46
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http://www.uk-airport-news.info/bris...ews-230408.htm

OOOPS How amusing
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 22:56
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Inbound on the FRA flight (LH4964) this evening. Pretty much full - 4 free seats in Y, 6 free in C. Almost a shame that it landed 50 minutes late (slow passengers boarding at FRA, then a missed slot), and right behind a Thompsonfly from somewhere Spanish. Being a very precious little traveller, there's nothing I hate more arriving right behind 250 odd-people who don't understand passport control.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 23:11
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Is it just me, or is easyJet's service to Milan Malpensa somewhat struggling? It seems to barely hit the 100 mark and Im on it again tomorrow, and am taking 61 down and just 44 back.

Nice to see us take on an ex-Connect route (about time we took on Munich!), and maybe its just that time of year between easter and summer hols, but surely this cant be viable long term? Or atleast amend the timings to better cater the business market that BA had. Mind you, they did only have 50 seats available a day, and we have 156.

Still not complaining - nice easy day for me....
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 12:25
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It seems to be feeling the effect of the Ryanair service to Bergamo, their version of Milan, both routes being daily.

CAA figures show that in January the easyJet Malpensa carried 4395 (average load 76) and the FR Bergamo 4293 (74).

In February the figures were Malpensa 5865 (95) and Bergamo 5454 (88).

In March they were Malpensa 7173 (116) and Bergamo 6598 (106).

Overall that's a fair few travelling to the Milan area (nearly 14,000 in March) but whether it is enough to sustain two daily services year-round is obviously open to serious question.
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 22:43
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Thanks for that MV - FR's Bergamo is at a much more "agreeable" flight time, but I think you get a much better service on easy.

Ended up being 60 down, 42 back tonight. Very VERY boring flight.
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Old 2nd May 2008, 19:32
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MV do you have any idea how the load factors are going on the SAS flights to Oslo?
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