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I believe your figures are in the right sort of area although I made HAJ slightly better, or perhaps less worse, than you suggest and HAM not as good. HAJ was a surprising choice as a route, albeit Hannover is one of Bristol's twin cities.
My alter ego posted this on another website last week:
CAA stats now out for the month in which all six bmi regional routes from BRS operated, albeit some did not start until 13 May. I've taken it that all advertised rotations operated.
Hannover and Hamburg are on 37-seat E135, remainder on 50-seat E145.
Frankfurt 1573 passengers, ave load 19.2, load factor 38.4%
Hamburg 1407 passengers, ave load 14.7, load factor 39.7%
Hannover 458 passengers, ave load 13.5, load factor 36.4%
Munich 766 passengers, ave load 22.5, load factor 45%
Milan Malpensa 672 passengers, ave load 19.8, load factor 39.6%
Aberdeen 2926 passengers, ave load 30.5, load factor 61%
Nothing very satisfying about these figures although Hannover, Munich and Milan only commenced on 13 May so can't be properly judged yet.
Hamburg is the most disappointing on the face of things. It's been running for over three months, albeit single daily to begin with, now double daily on weekdays.
In February its average load was 18.6 and in March 17.6. To have dropped to 14.7 especially in late spring is a cause for pondering.
May was the first month in which bmi regional had the Aberdeen route to itself.
This led to a discussion on the history of German routes at BRS and my alter ego posted this (slightly edited to remove 'domestic' references within that other forum), with particular reference to comparative passenger figures in previous months of May:
In the 13 months that LH (in the form of Eurowings) operated BRS-Frankfurt until the end of April 2009 at initially 3 x daily (21 weekly) with a 100 seat Bae 146-300, just under 100,000 passengers were carried. In May 2008 the route saw 9,441 passengers.
The last full year of BACon to Germany from BRS was 2006.
In that year BACon operated to Frankfurt, Munich and Dusseldorf, with FRA and DUS at 6 x weekly (no Sats) and MUC daily.
MUC and DUS went out at late morning and returned mid afternoon whist FRA left mid afternoon and returned mid evening. FRA and MUC had been operated by the BA franchisee since the late 1990s and FRA had been double daily for a while.
BACon operated the ERJ 145 on these routes and a comparison with the current bmi regional passenger figures is easily accomplished.
In 2006 the FRA route carried 21,315 passengers, the MUC 19,331 and the DUS 9,993 but the last-mentioned route only commenced on 1 June that year.
In May 2006 FRA saw 1,874 passengers (average load 34.7, load factor 69.4%) and MUC 1815 (average load 29.2, load factor 58.4%). Because DUS didn't commence until 1 June I've set down the passenger numbers for that month which were 1,156 (average load 21.4, load factor 42.8%) By August DUS was carrying 1,785 (average load 33, load factor 66%).
I can't remember what, if any, connection availability there was at these airports through BA, certainly nothing like those with LH especially at FRA so the BA and bmi regional comparisons are perhaps more realistic, albeit BA was and is a better known airline name than regional.
I realise I've been talking about passenger numbers and not the yields which are the important factors but it does paint something of a picture of BRS and Germany in the past decade.
The profile of an airline is important. easyJet carries around 80,000 to Berlin most years and in 2012 165,000 to Geneva (there were another 10,000 ski charter airline passengers to GVA as well) whereas the lesser-known Helvetic, although steadily improving its BRS performance still struggles to get to 50% load factor after 18 months of operation between BRS and Zurich with 9,000 passengers in 2012.
When the bmi routes were announced there were a number of comments about the lack of partners/connectivity and how this might impact on attracting passengers as bmi regional is currently a point-to-point airline out of BRS.
The early passenger numbers certainly aren't a cause for celebration on the part of the airline or airport but, ABZ and HAM apart (and even these aren't long standing routes by bmi regional) the others are new, with less than three weeks' figures to sample in the case of three which really have to be put to one side until a much more meaningful sample is available in the coming months.
Incidentally, I've shown the BA and bmi regional E145s as 50-seaters, whereas Mayfly shows them as 49. If Mayfly is right then the load factors will be slightly better than my figures.
My alter ego posted this on another website last week:
CAA stats now out for the month in which all six bmi regional routes from BRS operated, albeit some did not start until 13 May. I've taken it that all advertised rotations operated.
Hannover and Hamburg are on 37-seat E135, remainder on 50-seat E145.
Frankfurt 1573 passengers, ave load 19.2, load factor 38.4%
Hamburg 1407 passengers, ave load 14.7, load factor 39.7%
Hannover 458 passengers, ave load 13.5, load factor 36.4%
Munich 766 passengers, ave load 22.5, load factor 45%
Milan Malpensa 672 passengers, ave load 19.8, load factor 39.6%
Aberdeen 2926 passengers, ave load 30.5, load factor 61%
Nothing very satisfying about these figures although Hannover, Munich and Milan only commenced on 13 May so can't be properly judged yet.
Hamburg is the most disappointing on the face of things. It's been running for over three months, albeit single daily to begin with, now double daily on weekdays.
In February its average load was 18.6 and in March 17.6. To have dropped to 14.7 especially in late spring is a cause for pondering.
May was the first month in which bmi regional had the Aberdeen route to itself.
This led to a discussion on the history of German routes at BRS and my alter ego posted this (slightly edited to remove 'domestic' references within that other forum), with particular reference to comparative passenger figures in previous months of May:
In the 13 months that LH (in the form of Eurowings) operated BRS-Frankfurt until the end of April 2009 at initially 3 x daily (21 weekly) with a 100 seat Bae 146-300, just under 100,000 passengers were carried. In May 2008 the route saw 9,441 passengers.
The last full year of BACon to Germany from BRS was 2006.
In that year BACon operated to Frankfurt, Munich and Dusseldorf, with FRA and DUS at 6 x weekly (no Sats) and MUC daily.
MUC and DUS went out at late morning and returned mid afternoon whist FRA left mid afternoon and returned mid evening. FRA and MUC had been operated by the BA franchisee since the late 1990s and FRA had been double daily for a while.
BACon operated the ERJ 145 on these routes and a comparison with the current bmi regional passenger figures is easily accomplished.
In 2006 the FRA route carried 21,315 passengers, the MUC 19,331 and the DUS 9,993 but the last-mentioned route only commenced on 1 June that year.
In May 2006 FRA saw 1,874 passengers (average load 34.7, load factor 69.4%) and MUC 1815 (average load 29.2, load factor 58.4%). Because DUS didn't commence until 1 June I've set down the passenger numbers for that month which were 1,156 (average load 21.4, load factor 42.8%) By August DUS was carrying 1,785 (average load 33, load factor 66%).
I can't remember what, if any, connection availability there was at these airports through BA, certainly nothing like those with LH especially at FRA so the BA and bmi regional comparisons are perhaps more realistic, albeit BA was and is a better known airline name than regional.
I realise I've been talking about passenger numbers and not the yields which are the important factors but it does paint something of a picture of BRS and Germany in the past decade.
The profile of an airline is important. easyJet carries around 80,000 to Berlin most years and in 2012 165,000 to Geneva (there were another 10,000 ski charter airline passengers to GVA as well) whereas the lesser-known Helvetic, although steadily improving its BRS performance still struggles to get to 50% load factor after 18 months of operation between BRS and Zurich with 9,000 passengers in 2012.
When the bmi routes were announced there were a number of comments about the lack of partners/connectivity and how this might impact on attracting passengers as bmi regional is currently a point-to-point airline out of BRS.
The early passenger numbers certainly aren't a cause for celebration on the part of the airline or airport but, ABZ and HAM apart (and even these aren't long standing routes by bmi regional) the others are new, with less than three weeks' figures to sample in the case of three which really have to be put to one side until a much more meaningful sample is available in the coming months.
Incidentally, I've shown the BA and bmi regional E145s as 50-seaters, whereas Mayfly shows them as 49. If Mayfly is right then the load factors will be slightly better than my figures.
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Flew BRS-HAJ in early June. Load 13/37. Probably the most near-private jet experience possible on a commercial flight for me in a good while - particularly as there were 2 cabin crew (one in training as it appeared) so pax/staff ratio was fairly impressive.
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The ERJ-145 is 49 seats. (16 rows of 3 + 1. The 135 is 37 - 12 rows of 3 +1)
Load factors in those ranges are probably not sustainable in the long-term, but for a first month of operation, they're probably not indicative either.
bmi-r has run a successful operation for many years, operating that same fleet, but out of different airports and on different destinations. They're new arrivals to BRS, so will take time to establish themselves, and I would hope they've factored that into their plans. As EZY have shown, with the right prices and routes, SXF and GVA have done very well for them.
The Helvetic flight is a vexing one for me. At three days a week, it's not that great for my typical '24 hours in ZRH' visits, and without connections with LX, you can't use ZRH as a hub (which it's an excellent airport for, and LX have very good intra-European fares).
The BACon flight also used to suffer from FRA and MUC being terminating points. I'm still a bit bemused that LH publish sensible long-haul fares from BRS that allow use of the FRA/MUC routes, but make them pretty difficult to *find*. That connecting traffic would give those routes so much more value.
I was on BRS-MUC on Monday with 32 pax out and (apparently) about 30 pax back. I'm on MUC-BRS tomorrow, so I'll look at the numbers then. 75% LF is a much brighter story to tell.
Load factors in those ranges are probably not sustainable in the long-term, but for a first month of operation, they're probably not indicative either.
bmi-r has run a successful operation for many years, operating that same fleet, but out of different airports and on different destinations. They're new arrivals to BRS, so will take time to establish themselves, and I would hope they've factored that into their plans. As EZY have shown, with the right prices and routes, SXF and GVA have done very well for them.
The Helvetic flight is a vexing one for me. At three days a week, it's not that great for my typical '24 hours in ZRH' visits, and without connections with LX, you can't use ZRH as a hub (which it's an excellent airport for, and LX have very good intra-European fares).
The BACon flight also used to suffer from FRA and MUC being terminating points. I'm still a bit bemused that LH publish sensible long-haul fares from BRS that allow use of the FRA/MUC routes, but make them pretty difficult to *find*. That connecting traffic would give those routes so much more value.
I was on BRS-MUC on Monday with 32 pax out and (apparently) about 30 pax back. I'm on MUC-BRS tomorrow, so I'll look at the numbers then. 75% LF is a much brighter story to tell.
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Speaking of Zurich, CAA provisional stats for May suggest 1335 passengers used the service compared to 707 the previous May, quiet impressive when you consider that it wasn't that long ago when the aircraft went onto CWL that the combined totals were only around the 700 passenger number mark.
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I was on MUC-BRS last night, which had 34 pax. It looked like a mix of leisure and business, and a few people maybe heading to Glastonbury.
The hold on the 145 was full to bursting with bags, and two bicycles.
The hold on the 145 was full to bursting with bags, and two bicycles.
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Thanks B_T for clarification re seating capacity of bmi regional E145s.
The Helvetic route to ZRH is 4 x weekly this summer (M, W, F and Su) but, as you point out, the lack of connectivity is frustrating.
I was scanning the travel press and came across this reported comment from Flybe's MD in an article about the change of owership at Exeter Airport: Given the recent fare increases at Bristol Airport, Exeter should be able to capitalise on its position as the premier airport in the South West and the next few years at the airport look set to be an exciting period.’
See this link for full report Optimism over Exeter Airport sale | Travel News
What fare increases are these? Flybe's? All airlines using BRS? Are they across the board? Can't say I've noticed a general increase in fares recently.
Or is he actually talking about airline charges at the airport, rather than fares, something rumoured to be behind Ryanair's decision to reduce its base size at BRS this summer?
The Helvetic route to ZRH is 4 x weekly this summer (M, W, F and Su) but, as you point out, the lack of connectivity is frustrating.
I was scanning the travel press and came across this reported comment from Flybe's MD in an article about the change of owership at Exeter Airport: Given the recent fare increases at Bristol Airport, Exeter should be able to capitalise on its position as the premier airport in the South West and the next few years at the airport look set to be an exciting period.’
See this link for full report Optimism over Exeter Airport sale | Travel News
What fare increases are these? Flybe's? All airlines using BRS? Are they across the board? Can't say I've noticed a general increase in fares recently.
Or is he actually talking about airline charges at the airport, rather than fares, something rumoured to be behind Ryanair's decision to reduce its base size at BRS this summer?
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Travelled on BMI regional flight Bristol to Verona on Sat 22/06/13, returned yesterday Sat 30/06/13. Both flights on a E145.
Both flights were very smooth with excellent punctuality both ways. Only a few spare seats on the outgoing flight, return flight was full. Very impressed with bmi regional, well done!
Both flights were very smooth with excellent punctuality both ways. Only a few spare seats on the outgoing flight, return flight was full. Very impressed with bmi regional, well done!
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I think I'd noticed the passenger fees at Bristol had increased. I'm sure they used to be about GBP16, but the since 1st March 2013 they seem to be closer to GBP20. (SN show it as GBP17.90 and KL as about GBP20.87).
That has an effect on the final price charged to passengers, but I suspect there's very wide latitude for negotiation on those fees. I would imagine FR didn't get the 'negotiation outcome' they wanted.
I think the BM flight to VRN on Saturday is a charter, so whilst they will have got paid for operating the flight, they weren't selling the tickets.
That has an effect on the final price charged to passengers, but I suspect there's very wide latitude for negotiation on those fees. I would imagine FR didn't get the 'negotiation outcome' they wanted.
I think the BM flight to VRN on Saturday is a charter, so whilst they will have got paid for operating the flight, they weren't selling the tickets.
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Thanks again B_T.
I hadn't noticed. My wife and I flew to Glasgow in March with easyJet for around £45 each 'return' (we are able to book weeks in advance which usually helps) which I think is incredible value considering the pre-low cost airline days at BRS meant a return to Scotland cost over £200 (which would be more these days having regard to inflation in the intervening years). The first time I used a low cost airline from BRS was in 2002 to EDI with Go at £40 there and back - couldn't believe it at the time!
We used EI Regional to Cork and back last week and the return fare was over £100 each so if this included an extra three or four quid in increased passenger charges it didn't really signify and, anyway, I always look at the total fare and rarely bother looking at the breakdown. There seemed to be no empty seats on the ATR 72 on the return to BRS on Saturday and only a handful on the Tuesday outbound to ORK.
Thus far there seems to be no adverse effect on passenger numbers. BRU passenger numbers are up 13%, 38% and 26% respectively in March, April and May, and AMS is up 3%, 7% and 10% in the same period. In the first five months of this year overall passenger numbers at the airport are up 2.48% using CAA stats.
So it doesn't look as though there is currently a rush down the M5 for cheaper flights.
Verona is a charter operated by bmi regional on behalf of Inghams. In recent years they took seats on the TUI service to Verona which operates for that group this year by a Mistral Air B 737-400 giving two Saturday flights to VRN.
regional also operates a Sunday service to Bastia for Corsican Places. In addition to its Airbus corporate shuttle work I've noticed that regional crops up operating presumably one-off ad hoc rotations from/to BRS to various destination over and above its football/rugby weekend charter work in the season.
I've heard very good reports of its product with Welshtraveller's remarks another confirmation. Must try to persuade Mrs MV that we should sample it ourselves.
I hadn't noticed. My wife and I flew to Glasgow in March with easyJet for around £45 each 'return' (we are able to book weeks in advance which usually helps) which I think is incredible value considering the pre-low cost airline days at BRS meant a return to Scotland cost over £200 (which would be more these days having regard to inflation in the intervening years). The first time I used a low cost airline from BRS was in 2002 to EDI with Go at £40 there and back - couldn't believe it at the time!
We used EI Regional to Cork and back last week and the return fare was over £100 each so if this included an extra three or four quid in increased passenger charges it didn't really signify and, anyway, I always look at the total fare and rarely bother looking at the breakdown. There seemed to be no empty seats on the ATR 72 on the return to BRS on Saturday and only a handful on the Tuesday outbound to ORK.
Thus far there seems to be no adverse effect on passenger numbers. BRU passenger numbers are up 13%, 38% and 26% respectively in March, April and May, and AMS is up 3%, 7% and 10% in the same period. In the first five months of this year overall passenger numbers at the airport are up 2.48% using CAA stats.
So it doesn't look as though there is currently a rush down the M5 for cheaper flights.
Verona is a charter operated by bmi regional on behalf of Inghams. In recent years they took seats on the TUI service to Verona which operates for that group this year by a Mistral Air B 737-400 giving two Saturday flights to VRN.
regional also operates a Sunday service to Bastia for Corsican Places. In addition to its Airbus corporate shuttle work I've noticed that regional crops up operating presumably one-off ad hoc rotations from/to BRS to various destination over and above its football/rugby weekend charter work in the season.
I've heard very good reports of its product with Welshtraveller's remarks another confirmation. Must try to persuade Mrs MV that we should sample it ourselves.
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Record passenger figures for June
BRS has issued a press release, reproduced in part below, saying that this year saw the busiest ever June.
Bristol Airport recorded its busiest ever June last month, with over 625,000 passengers travelling through the terminal. This surpassed the previous record, set back in 2008, by 15,000 and represented a 3.4 per cent increase on the same month last year - despite the 2012 figure being boosted by a late Whitsun Bank Holiday and the Queen’s Jubilee.
Growth was recorded across all airline sectors, with bmi regional’s new services to Frankfurt, Munich and Hamburg performing particularly well. KLM’s four-times daily service to Amsterdam also carried 12 per cent more passengers than in the previous year, benefiting from the introduction of a larger Embraer 190 aircraft on the route.
Full press release at: Record June at Bristol Airport ? Bristol Airport
It must be gratifying that some of the bmi regional routes are beginning to do well although individual route statistics won't be available until the CAA reports later this month.
It seems as though 2013 will be the fourth consecutive year to see an annual passenger rise and at present the airport is well on course to exceed 6 mppa for the second time in its history after the 6.228 mppa in 2008.
Bristol Airport recorded its busiest ever June last month, with over 625,000 passengers travelling through the terminal. This surpassed the previous record, set back in 2008, by 15,000 and represented a 3.4 per cent increase on the same month last year - despite the 2012 figure being boosted by a late Whitsun Bank Holiday and the Queen’s Jubilee.
Growth was recorded across all airline sectors, with bmi regional’s new services to Frankfurt, Munich and Hamburg performing particularly well. KLM’s four-times daily service to Amsterdam also carried 12 per cent more passengers than in the previous year, benefiting from the introduction of a larger Embraer 190 aircraft on the route.
Full press release at: Record June at Bristol Airport ? Bristol Airport
It must be gratifying that some of the bmi regional routes are beginning to do well although individual route statistics won't be available until the CAA reports later this month.
It seems as though 2013 will be the fourth consecutive year to see an annual passenger rise and at present the airport is well on course to exceed 6 mppa for the second time in its history after the 6.228 mppa in 2008.
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It's good to hear BRS is doing so well. They seem to be making the most of what the airport is capable of.
On the subject of BMI, my flight back from ABZ the other night was almost completely full. Overheard someone say they paid over £250 for a one way! Perhaps they're picking up the Eastern Airways slack; although I don't think there was too much when they left the route anyway.
Any news on the hotel? I know it hasn't really progressed but any news on the brand/chain?
On the subject of BMI, my flight back from ABZ the other night was almost completely full. Overheard someone say they paid over £250 for a one way! Perhaps they're picking up the Eastern Airways slack; although I don't think there was too much when they left the route anyway.
Any news on the hotel? I know it hasn't really progressed but any news on the brand/chain?
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There was no news of the hotel in the minutes of the consultative committee meeting held on 1 May this year.
As far back as 2009 it was reported in the local press that Pedersons Hotels had been chosen to select an internationally recognised brand to run the hotel which at that time was expected to be completed by last winter.
June seems to have been a productive month for a number of airports around the country. In Bristol's case the record June was achieved despite 22 rotations (12 easyJet, eight Ryanair and two Air France) being cancelled on 11 and 12 June because of French ATC industrial action.
As far back as 2009 it was reported in the local press that Pedersons Hotels had been chosen to select an internationally recognised brand to run the hotel which at that time was expected to be completed by last winter.
June seems to have been a productive month for a number of airports around the country. In Bristol's case the record June was achieved despite 22 rotations (12 easyJet, eight Ryanair and two Air France) being cancelled on 11 and 12 June because of French ATC industrial action.
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Gibraltar
A report today in a Gibraltar newspaper - see below link - suggests that Gibraltar's Minister for Tourism, Commercial Affairs, Public Transport and The Port (now that is a title) is in discussions about possible flights from Bristol and a Scottish airport (not named) to the Rock.
Life is sweeter without jams | The Times
Life is sweeter without jams | The Times
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bmi regional have just opened up bookings for 01JAN-29MAR.
Just looking at departures ex-BRS in w/c 13JAN:
ABZ - on Monday (day 1) only the morning rotation operates, on Friday and Sunday (57) only the afternoon rotation operates. Tue-Thu (234) operates with both rotations as usual.
FRA - as ABZ
HAM - as ABZ
HAJ - not operating on Tuesdays or Saturdays (day x26)
MXP - as HAJ
MUC - as HAJ
So, at first look, and without having checked any other dates, it looks like the routes are being thinned slightly, with all three aircraft only doing two rotations on Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays. Saturday remains without any flights.
Hopefully that's just a winter thing.
Just looking at departures ex-BRS in w/c 13JAN:
ABZ - on Monday (day 1) only the morning rotation operates, on Friday and Sunday (57) only the afternoon rotation operates. Tue-Thu (234) operates with both rotations as usual.
FRA - as ABZ
HAM - as ABZ
HAJ - not operating on Tuesdays or Saturdays (day x26)
MXP - as HAJ
MUC - as HAJ
So, at first look, and without having checked any other dates, it looks like the routes are being thinned slightly, with all three aircraft only doing two rotations on Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays. Saturday remains without any flights.
Hopefully that's just a winter thing.
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The Hannover appears to have been reduced from 6 to 5 x weekly (no Tuesday as well as the original no Saturday) from today through August but seems to be back to 6 x weekly in September. For some reason the Milan didn't operate today either (wasn't shown on the BRS boards anyway) but the booking engine shows it remaining at 6 x weekly (no Sats still).
CAA stats show an improving situation over May with bmi regional's loads from/to BRS in June, viz:
Aberdeen average load 31.3 load factor 63.9% (ER4)
Frankfurt 23.9 48.8% (ER4)
Hamburg 20.4 55.1% (ER3)
Munich 24.8 50.6% (ER4)
Hannover 17.2 46.5% (ER3)
Milan Malpensa 25.6 52.2% (ER4)
I've taken it that all timetabled rotations operated except in the case of FRA, HAM and HAJ when I know that at least one rotation to each was cancelled in the month - believed for operational reasons.
Addendum
I've noticed that I mis-read the CAA stats on which I based the MXP figures.
In June 1281 people travelled between BRS and MXP but 144 were charter passengers meaning the bmi regional figures for the MXP route should have been:
Average load 22.7, load factor 46.4%.
BRS June 2013
CAA stats show that 632,704 passengers passed through the BRS terminal in the month, up 3.8 % on June 2012 (an increase of over 23,000 passengers). The rolling 12-month figure was 5,990,723, up 2.7% on a year ago.
June's figure is an increase of over 17,000 on the previous best June which was in 2008.
The Hannover appears to have been reduced from 6 to 5 x weekly (no Tuesday as well as the original no Saturday) from today through August but seems to be back to 6 x weekly in September. For some reason the Milan didn't operate today either (wasn't shown on the BRS boards anyway) but the booking engine shows it remaining at 6 x weekly (no Sats still).
CAA stats show an improving situation over May with bmi regional's loads from/to BRS in June, viz:
Aberdeen average load 31.3 load factor 63.9% (ER4)
Frankfurt 23.9 48.8% (ER4)
Hamburg 20.4 55.1% (ER3)
Munich 24.8 50.6% (ER4)
Hannover 17.2 46.5% (ER3)
Milan Malpensa 25.6 52.2% (ER4)
I've taken it that all timetabled rotations operated except in the case of FRA, HAM and HAJ when I know that at least one rotation to each was cancelled in the month - believed for operational reasons.
Addendum
I've noticed that I mis-read the CAA stats on which I based the MXP figures.
In June 1281 people travelled between BRS and MXP but 144 were charter passengers meaning the bmi regional figures for the MXP route should have been:
Average load 22.7, load factor 46.4%.
BRS June 2013
CAA stats show that 632,704 passengers passed through the BRS terminal in the month, up 3.8 % on June 2012 (an increase of over 23,000 passengers). The rolling 12-month figure was 5,990,723, up 2.7% on a year ago.
June's figure is an increase of over 17,000 on the previous best June which was in 2008.
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The average load on BRS-ZRH in June was 41. I don't know whether the Helvetic F100s are 100-seaters or 85-seaters to allow for the Viva! business class option.
The average loads have been noticeably higher each month this year (compared with the corresponding months last year) although still seem in need of improvement. Connectivity at ZRH would be an obvious boost as it would with some of the bmi regional routes to Germany.
I don't think that Helvetic has released any winter timetable details yet. Hopefully, the BRS has done enough to be retained but I would never bet on anything aviation-related.
Some of the Flyers have carried/are carrying Helvetic adverts and I noticed at least one First bus in the city carrying one too.
The average loads have been noticeably higher each month this year (compared with the corresponding months last year) although still seem in need of improvement. Connectivity at ZRH would be an obvious boost as it would with some of the bmi regional routes to Germany.
I don't think that Helvetic has released any winter timetable details yet. Hopefully, the BRS has done enough to be retained but I would never bet on anything aviation-related.
Some of the Flyers have carried/are carrying Helvetic adverts and I noticed at least one First bus in the city carrying one too.
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Hi MV
Incident: Helvetic F100 near Zurich on Jul 15th 2013, smoking oven
I know it is July and you would expect loads to be quite good but this would have been decent if of course the pax had made it direct to Bristol.
As for business seats , I must admit when I post the BHX loads I always use 100 seats for the F100 although I know that is probably not 100% accurate.
Pete
Incident: Helvetic F100 near Zurich on Jul 15th 2013, smoking oven
I know it is July and you would expect loads to be quite good but this would have been decent if of course the pax had made it direct to Bristol.
As for business seats , I must admit when I post the BHX loads I always use 100 seats for the F100 although I know that is probably not 100% accurate.
Pete