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Not Just Flight OPs
Not just problems in Flight Ops, Engineering is in turmoil.
The news all the ex RBA engineers were waiting for was announced by Ray Sayer on November 8th.
Namely, the summary dismissal of the EVP Aircraft Operations
. This inept and incompetent person did more to harm engineering that any other. He was suspended 3 years ago amid claims of shady dealing. He was re enstated for no good reason 
and along with the recently replaced ex CEO caused mayhem and chaos prompting many of the senior engineering management (expat and local) to leave. I hope all his lap dogs are quaking in their boots (you know who you are), the number is surely up for them too.
This could mean the start of something good for Engineering, I hope it is not too late!
The news all the ex RBA engineers were waiting for was announced by Ray Sayer on November 8th.
Namely, the summary dismissal of the EVP Aircraft Operations
. This inept and incompetent person did more to harm engineering that any other. He was suspended 3 years ago amid claims of shady dealing. He was re enstated for no good reason and along with the recently replaced ex CEO caused mayhem and chaos prompting many of the senior engineering management (expat and local) to leave. I hope all his lap dogs are quaking in their boots (you know who you are), the number is surely up for them too.This could mean the start of something good for Engineering, I hope it is not too late!
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Three Clowns To Attend Court
Yes R Scanning, Rays broom is starting to sweep at last. Shame he might not get all of the dirt before they leave.
Invitations have been sent to Castor Kaborn, Serpant N--n, and the Smiling Asssassin.
All will be held accountable for harassment and intimidation.
Invitations have been sent to Castor Kaborn, Serpant N--n, and the Smiling Asssassin.
All will be held accountable for harassment and intimidation.
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This would be good news for all if they have decided to dump the con merchants, but with all the past problems with giving the money, are Boeing or Airbus going to step up and help out.
Lets face it, they are tighter with money than a Scotsman with deep pockets?
Lets face it, they are tighter with money than a Scotsman with deep pockets?
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Balance Sheet: Kosong.
Debts: Huge
Abandoned by the Shareholder eight years ago.
Hotels refusing company credit
Major suppliers witholding supplies
Q. Which of the many suppliers will finally put RBA into receivership? Honeywell perhaps?
Debts: Huge
Abandoned by the Shareholder eight years ago.
Hotels refusing company credit
Major suppliers witholding supplies
Q. Which of the many suppliers will finally put RBA into receivership? Honeywell perhaps?
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spot on!
Right on TRLG! it's the management people thats immature, full of excuses and s****.
expat winging too much, if they don't like it, F****** leave the country. they know the deal in RBA and still winging, just can't believe it.
We Locals have real issues, its been years and nothing been done, may be after all locals gone and what remain of it just those two a******* brothers and their gutless boss. Then only they will say, we have to do something about it and of course only them will benefit from the changes!
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Guys,
Whilst it is probably good to get the frustrations that you have with the airline, management and personalities out in the open it does not really help your cause.
Perhaps those who have either deep seated complaints about specifics or who feel that they could put order out of chaos should talk, or write, to either the CEO, the DCA, or if they have the political clout a member of the board.
But don’t just complain because it makes you feel better, be constructive and put forward a well structured case - with alternatives.
Nkosi
Whilst it is probably good to get the frustrations that you have with the airline, management and personalities out in the open it does not really help your cause.
Perhaps those who have either deep seated complaints about specifics or who feel that they could put order out of chaos should talk, or write, to either the CEO, the DCA, or if they have the political clout a member of the board.
But don’t just complain because it makes you feel better, be constructive and put forward a well structured case - with alternatives.
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I never fail but to be staggered by the naivety of some of my fellow pilots. Why do you local guys think you are [for no justifiable reason] given poorer pay, promotion and conditions than expats by the management in RBA? Because you let them get away with it!! Expat pilots are hard enough to find for the little RBA offers them, unless they are very inexperienced, or have some other obscure reason for staying, but I doubt if any would remain on your local rates. Apart from the fact that equality would make for a happier working environment, your pay scales etc are of little importance to them, and certainly rate far lower on their grand scheme of things than, say, school allowances, roster patterns et al.
Bruneians are not combative souls by nature, unfortunately this means that it is not difficult to take advantage of your generally pleasant demeanour, and there are those that do.
Around the world you will find that the only thing that really focusses the managements’ mind on pilots’ problems is aircraft on the ground for lack of crews. When that happens things might be redressed, and there are enough of you local pilots now to make a difference. Any other form of action would not be appropriate in Brunei. Just because you leave your country for another better job doesn’t mean that you can never return does it? Just ask any expat, or those of your colleagues that have bitten the bullet! Until then it’s the red hot poker for you I’m afraid. It’s up to you to do something about it, no-one else is interested.
RBA is not a local internal Bruneian enterprise where things can be hidden under the carpet, the current scenario is being played out on the world stage from LHR to AKL. Unfortunately the 777 fiasco and the other problems are showing RBA in a very bad light, I just hope that you can resolve it soon for your sakes.
Bruneians are not combative souls by nature, unfortunately this means that it is not difficult to take advantage of your generally pleasant demeanour, and there are those that do.
Around the world you will find that the only thing that really focusses the managements’ mind on pilots’ problems is aircraft on the ground for lack of crews. When that happens things might be redressed, and there are enough of you local pilots now to make a difference. Any other form of action would not be appropriate in Brunei. Just because you leave your country for another better job doesn’t mean that you can never return does it? Just ask any expat, or those of your colleagues that have bitten the bullet! Until then it’s the red hot poker for you I’m afraid. It’s up to you to do something about it, no-one else is interested.
RBA is not a local internal Bruneian enterprise where things can be hidden under the carpet, the current scenario is being played out on the world stage from LHR to AKL. Unfortunately the 777 fiasco and the other problems are showing RBA in a very bad light, I just hope that you can resolve it soon for your sakes.
Expat pilots deserve better packages than local ones to make up for the inconvenience of being away from home and the fact that the job is likely to be fixed term. Also job security for an expat is less and promotion prospects often depend on no local being qualified for the position.
Isn't the cadet pilot scheme for locals only, and aren't there some benefits in education and housing for locals ?
With the present pilot shortage now is a good time to push for improved conditions for everyone. Failing that try your luck abroad. If flying in India for example, what sort of package would you want to make up for being away from home ?
Isn't the cadet pilot scheme for locals only, and aren't there some benefits in education and housing for locals ?
With the present pilot shortage now is a good time to push for improved conditions for everyone. Failing that try your luck abroad. If flying in India for example, what sort of package would you want to make up for being away from home ?
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Real Local Guy,
Apologies for intruding on your thread but please let me put you right on one matter. You said to Metro Man:
It is industry standard that the basic rate for the job is the same, BUT that in addition, expats get paid either a housing allowance to cover the cost of renting, or they have accommodation provided for them. Similarly, additional "salary" is paid in the form of child education allowance, subsidised health insurance, exchange rate protection payments etc etc etc etc etc. Several of your fellow countrymen are benefitting from that very system here in Singapore and also in UAE.
In terms of basic "rate for the job" you have a point but if you wish to attract expats (and we both know that RBA can't survive without them) then you have to make the overall expat package competitive with other carriers expat packages. That is attempted in RBA (or was when I was there) by paying an expat allowance as compensation for being away from ones own country and to compensate for some of the bu$$eration factors associated with being an expat.
We both also know that local salaries within RBA will never be more than those of the corresponding job grades within the Brunei government - yet another reason for the expat allowance. That is not an easy situation for locals to resolve but resolve it you must or you will continue to be a stepping stone to other carriers for low houred expats and you will continue to lose locals to the likes of SQ, Etihad, EK etc etc - whose expat packages are far more attractive than those currently on offer by RBA.
Apologies for intruding on your thread but please let me put you right on one matter. You said to Metro Man:
What planet r u from? do expats in SQ,Emirates,Etihad and Cathay get paid more than their locals? i can tell you they don't. So dont say you deserve more than locals. Equal yes, More no.
In terms of basic "rate for the job" you have a point but if you wish to attract expats (and we both know that RBA can't survive without them) then you have to make the overall expat package competitive with other carriers expat packages. That is attempted in RBA (or was when I was there) by paying an expat allowance as compensation for being away from ones own country and to compensate for some of the bu$$eration factors associated with being an expat.
We both also know that local salaries within RBA will never be more than those of the corresponding job grades within the Brunei government - yet another reason for the expat allowance. That is not an easy situation for locals to resolve but resolve it you must or you will continue to be a stepping stone to other carriers for low houred expats and you will continue to lose locals to the likes of SQ, Etihad, EK etc etc - whose expat packages are far more attractive than those currently on offer by RBA.
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It is in Chaos
The company is really in chaos.
TRLG- Are you still living with your parents? I wonder why the other SENSIBLE locals are living in their own houses. OH... I see you have just bought yourself a nice sports car instead.
KK- Are you going to wait until all the good SFO's leave so that you can get the benefits? I have a suggestion. Why don't all of the local management resign to show solidarity to our fellow pilots.
TRLG- Are you still living with your parents? I wonder why the other SENSIBLE locals are living in their own houses. OH... I see you have just bought yourself a nice sports car instead.
KK- Are you going to wait until all the good SFO's leave so that you can get the benefits? I have a suggestion. Why don't all of the local management resign to show solidarity to our fellow pilots.
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Quote- How can RBA justify a local pilot getting less pay than an expat pilot?
The same way it justifies its expats getting less than most other airlines for flying wide bodied jets. Because there are pilots willing to work for them on cr@p pay and conditions. Locals have never stood up to management so will never get any more. Those that realized this left to become expats themselves on higher pay. As rba management have always said, if you don’t like it f$%k off. But remember when you do, you will be just another foreigner working in another country. Don’t expect any special treatment for being Bruneian.
TRLG
Quote -WHy are the benchmark for a local to get command higher than expat?
They are not. Expat used to require 5000 hours, locals 4000 hours. Has that changed?
ARL
Quote - expat winging too much, if they don't like it, F****** leave the country. They know the deal in RBA and still winging, just can't believe it.
Strange, you agree with TRLGs whingeing. Stop winging yourself. You too have the option, if YOU don't like it, F****** leave the country.
But don’t expect any special treatment once you leave your parents home and go to a foreign country. You will just be another expat number.
Housing Allowance.
You dont get housing allowance because you live at home. Expats dont get housing allowance if they live in their own country. Expats do not see any of the housing allowance. It goes directly to the landlord and that corrupt so and so Has@@@@@@an.
Besides all Bruneians get GIVEN a plot of land or a house. Just put your name down. It may take a few years, but you be GIVEN one.
If you want a housing allowance move to the middle east.
Metro Man and Bananas are correct. Expats are paid more because they have to pay more to attract them.
What expat would move away from home, to have to put up with the BS of living in countries such as Brunei or the UAE? Brunei has little to offer except a tax free salary and that’s falling so far behind it’s not worth it for expats any more. Their basic infrastructure is way behind many countries the expats come from. Entertainment, internet, roads, bars, schooling, shops. H@ll you couldn’t even buy fresh meat or milk most the time there.
Also Bananas is correct, you are paid based on the level grade of a government worker (clerk or middle manager, Im not sure). Brunei’s govt workers are very well paid for the region considering the ACTUAL 3-5 hours they work a day. Just go down to the post office. Doors locked during opening hours, workers inside chatting and having makan.
You are paid for the same hours work as them. No more.
So RBA tries to make up for their very low salary with allowances. But be careful, these allowances can be stopped or reduced as they have in the past. The salaries and allowances were 15 years out of date when I left. They must be 20 years out of date now.
Have any locals written to management to voice their concerns. I believe the expats have. Don’t expect the expats to fight your battles.
Not saying it will do any good. That’s why so many expats are looking to leave.
They’ll be replaced with rishworth pilots with no jet time and all will continue, hopefully safely.
Quote- How can RBA justify a local pilot getting less pay than an expat pilot?
The same way it justifies its expats getting less than most other airlines for flying wide bodied jets. Because there are pilots willing to work for them on cr@p pay and conditions. Locals have never stood up to management so will never get any more. Those that realized this left to become expats themselves on higher pay. As rba management have always said, if you don’t like it f$%k off. But remember when you do, you will be just another foreigner working in another country. Don’t expect any special treatment for being Bruneian.
TRLG
Quote -WHy are the benchmark for a local to get command higher than expat?
They are not. Expat used to require 5000 hours, locals 4000 hours. Has that changed?
ARL
Quote - expat winging too much, if they don't like it, F****** leave the country. They know the deal in RBA and still winging, just can't believe it.
Strange, you agree with TRLGs whingeing. Stop winging yourself. You too have the option, if YOU don't like it, F****** leave the country.
But don’t expect any special treatment once you leave your parents home and go to a foreign country. You will just be another expat number.
Housing Allowance.
You dont get housing allowance because you live at home. Expats dont get housing allowance if they live in their own country. Expats do not see any of the housing allowance. It goes directly to the landlord and that corrupt so and so Has@@@@@@an.
Besides all Bruneians get GIVEN a plot of land or a house. Just put your name down. It may take a few years, but you be GIVEN one.
If you want a housing allowance move to the middle east.
Metro Man and Bananas are correct. Expats are paid more because they have to pay more to attract them.
What expat would move away from home, to have to put up with the BS of living in countries such as Brunei or the UAE? Brunei has little to offer except a tax free salary and that’s falling so far behind it’s not worth it for expats any more. Their basic infrastructure is way behind many countries the expats come from. Entertainment, internet, roads, bars, schooling, shops. H@ll you couldn’t even buy fresh meat or milk most the time there.
Also Bananas is correct, you are paid based on the level grade of a government worker (clerk or middle manager, Im not sure). Brunei’s govt workers are very well paid for the region considering the ACTUAL 3-5 hours they work a day. Just go down to the post office. Doors locked during opening hours, workers inside chatting and having makan.
You are paid for the same hours work as them. No more.
So RBA tries to make up for their very low salary with allowances. But be careful, these allowances can be stopped or reduced as they have in the past. The salaries and allowances were 15 years out of date when I left. They must be 20 years out of date now.
Have any locals written to management to voice their concerns. I believe the expats have. Don’t expect the expats to fight your battles.
Not saying it will do any good. That’s why so many expats are looking to leave.
They’ll be replaced with rishworth pilots with no jet time and all will continue, hopefully safely.
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Hey guys... be gentle... these locals are not as rough as you are. You will make them cry soon 
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To both the local guys- Have you ever spoken to management about this? seriously. I don't think so. I don't think there is anything you and anybody can do until you speak or tell anyone except one man. And you know who.
You whining against the expats doesn't help at all. Yes, there are some management and expat trainers who are not supposed to be in their present position. But, where were you guys when those jobs were advertised? Melayu, melayu..... cakap tak serupa bikin lah... You always want other people want to change things as long as its not you....
. To both the local guys- Have you ever spoken to management about this? seriously. I don't think so. I don't think there is anything you and anybody can do until you speak or tell anyone except one man. And you know who.
You whining against the expats doesn't help at all. Yes, there are some management and expat trainers who are not supposed to be in their present position. But, where were you guys when those jobs were advertised? Melayu, melayu..... cakap tak serupa bikin lah... You always want other people want to change things as long as its not you....
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More chaos
Slimjim47,
Obviously you have never been to the post office in Brunei. Ever.
TRLG,
What you do with your money its up to you. Its not true. Not all the locals who own houses are captains. Some FO's too. Please check again
. It all depends on your priority.
BTW a fresh rishworth FO earns approx 8300 [expat + Supplementary allowance and excluding flying allowance] (I don't know how much Mr. Rishworth takes from them). They do not earn 5K though. After a year Mr. Rishworth will stop taking part of their salary. You can add another 25% of the whole salary. Which makes it approx 10K every month.This excludes flying allowance and the 25% of the recent increase in supplementary allowance. The hosing allowance is $1800 which they don't get into their pocket. That goes into the landlord's pocket. The flying allowance is approximately... let say $2000. Thats 12K a month.
An emirates FO takes home approximately 13K a month. Etihad... maybe approximately the same. SQ Cargo is almost the same if you include everything (after tax).
Then if they are good enough to CD, they will be promoted to the left seat and takes home about 15K (starting) a month. No tax, free housing, cheap cars, cheap DVDs and a good life if you are a mate of BG. (The brits don't like it here anymore).
You TRLG- If you are a junior FO earns $3000 + aprox 1500 to $2000 flying allowance. With 200hrs + 800hrs experience. Not bad. If you work until 60 you would get approximately $1,000,000 (gratuity + TAP) waiting for you in the bank (forget about inflation). A subsidised housing loan, car loan, see your family all the time, etc etc. If you are an outstanding Pilot you will get your command in no time. What? Your lawyers friend. Don't be naive. You will laugh in two year's time. Trust me.
The reason the senior FOs left were mainly because they were not given command. The company thinks (CD) they are not ready. Maybe he is right, maybe he is wrong. They will never tell you how they really performed in their SIMs.
YES! The LOCAL salary has to be reviewed. It is not competitive enough in the real world. It has to be the same as the expats (which for now is not bad at all... considering everything). Why do you think these expats FO did not apply to to SQ, Etihad or Emirates?
If you really want to fight for a payrise. Hmmmmm... Good luck. The locals before you did the same thing in their own ways. It worked and the expats benefited from it as well. Go fight for the same salary. No bull**** supplementary allowances, expat allowances, etc etc. Just like any other company in the world. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED YOU LOCALS SHOULD GET MORE THAN ANY EXPATS BECAUSE IT IS YOUR ABODE OF PEACE AFTER ALL.
Obviously you have never been to the post office in Brunei. Ever.
TRLG,
What you do with your money its up to you. Its not true. Not all the locals who own houses are captains. Some FO's too. Please check again
. It all depends on your priority. BTW a fresh rishworth FO earns approx 8300 [expat + Supplementary allowance and excluding flying allowance] (I don't know how much Mr. Rishworth takes from them). They do not earn 5K though. After a year Mr. Rishworth will stop taking part of their salary. You can add another 25% of the whole salary. Which makes it approx 10K every month.This excludes flying allowance and the 25% of the recent increase in supplementary allowance. The hosing allowance is $1800 which they don't get into their pocket. That goes into the landlord's pocket. The flying allowance is approximately... let say $2000. Thats 12K a month.
An emirates FO takes home approximately 13K a month. Etihad... maybe approximately the same. SQ Cargo is almost the same if you include everything (after tax).
Then if they are good enough to CD, they will be promoted to the left seat and takes home about 15K (starting) a month. No tax, free housing, cheap cars, cheap DVDs and a good life if you are a mate of BG. (The brits don't like it here anymore).
You TRLG- If you are a junior FO earns $3000 + aprox 1500 to $2000 flying allowance. With 200hrs + 800hrs experience. Not bad. If you work until 60 you would get approximately $1,000,000 (gratuity + TAP) waiting for you in the bank (forget about inflation). A subsidised housing loan, car loan, see your family all the time, etc etc. If you are an outstanding Pilot you will get your command in no time. What? Your lawyers friend. Don't be naive. You will laugh in two year's time. Trust me.
The reason the senior FOs left were mainly because they were not given command. The company thinks (CD) they are not ready. Maybe he is right, maybe he is wrong. They will never tell you how they really performed in their SIMs.
YES! The LOCAL salary has to be reviewed. It is not competitive enough in the real world. It has to be the same as the expats (which for now is not bad at all... considering everything). Why do you think these expats FO did not apply to to SQ, Etihad or Emirates?
If you really want to fight for a payrise. Hmmmmm... Good luck. The locals before you did the same thing in their own ways. It worked and the expats benefited from it as well. Go fight for the same salary. No bull**** supplementary allowances, expat allowances, etc etc. Just like any other company in the world. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED YOU LOCALS SHOULD GET MORE THAN ANY EXPATS BECAUSE IT IS YOUR ABODE OF PEACE AFTER ALL.
Becoming an expat involved considerable expense in uprooting my family and setting up home thousands of miles away. I am living in someone elses country as a foreigner where I do not have the same privilages as the locals, I have to fit in and obey new laws and adjust to a new lifestyle.
Now why would I subject myself to all this inconvenience just to be able to save the same $$$ as I can at home ? I am overseas for a nett benefit to myself compared to what I would have if I stayed home. ie Better aircraft, quicker promotion, more money.
At the moment there are plenty of opportunities around for pilots, why not take advantage of them to improve your position. Your salaries seem very low considering the present job market, I doubled my take home pay by going overseas, you could do the same.
Now why would I subject myself to all this inconvenience just to be able to save the same $$$ as I can at home ? I am overseas for a nett benefit to myself compared to what I would have if I stayed home. ie Better aircraft, quicker promotion, more money.
At the moment there are plenty of opportunities around for pilots, why not take advantage of them to improve your position. Your salaries seem very low considering the present job market, I doubled my take home pay by going overseas, you could do the same.
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MM. Why the *ell should the local pilots have to move away when their own country's flag is 'overstaffed' with expats (who do indeed seem to do 'quite well' out of it.)You presumably moved from Oz where the future - as far as you could see was ..... Metros. But your skills / the work you do is the same as the locals; so why on earth should you be renumerated to a higher level? As for the guff / hardship about fitting in - remember it was your decision to come here, nobody asked / made you. You wanted to improve yourself & it goes with the territory. The locals shouldn't have to move away, there are opportunities at home - there wasn't for yourself.
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Think about it Static,
From RBA's point of view it is obviously much cheaper to employ a local than an expat.
Q. So why employ expats?
A. Because RBA needs them.
Q. Will an expat come to work in Brunei on a local salary?
A. No.
I do agree that the basic rate for the job should be the same for local and expat but your grievance about the low basic rate for locals should be taken up with the Brunei government - not RBA. I understand how difficult and futile that exercise can be - so did the locals that left.
If RBA paid a decent basic rate for the job (gratuitable) to both expat and locals there would be no need for the expat supplementary allowance as it would be incorporated into the enhanced basic salary and everybody would win. Is that likely to happen???
From RBA's point of view it is obviously much cheaper to employ a local than an expat.
Q. So why employ expats?
A. Because RBA needs them.
Q. Will an expat come to work in Brunei on a local salary?
A. No.
I do agree that the basic rate for the job should be the same for local and expat but your grievance about the low basic rate for locals should be taken up with the Brunei government - not RBA. I understand how difficult and futile that exercise can be - so did the locals that left.
If RBA paid a decent basic rate for the job (gratuitable) to both expat and locals there would be no need for the expat supplementary allowance as it would be incorporated into the enhanced basic salary and everybody would win. Is that likely to happen???
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If airlines could employ only locals they would, less expense and fewer adjustments to make vs employing expats. Fact is there are not enough suitably qualified locals to fill the need therefore employing expats is necessary or the aircraft sit on the ground.
As a pilot I am a highly skilled professional whose skills are in demand worldwide at the moment. Airlines are competing for pilots with the skills and experience they require and therefore have to offer attractive packages.
I would not object to being paid less than a local as long it was worth my while to work for a company. ie Salary, housing, school fees, allowances, local cost of living, saving potential etc are still in my favour.
If the location is unsafe/unattractive I want more $$$, nice place with good career prospects less $$$ will do.
At the moment job prospects in Australia are very good however taxes are very high so I choose to live abroad for better saving potential and faster advancement
I am not an unskilled labourer from the Indian sub continent and can afford to be selective in who I work for. If Royal Brunei don't pay enough their pilots will move elsewhere simple as that.
My present employer refuses to give pay rises and has been hit with a wave of resignations, flight cancellations are a possibility early next year. Then the message will get through.
As a pilot I am a highly skilled professional whose skills are in demand worldwide at the moment. Airlines are competing for pilots with the skills and experience they require and therefore have to offer attractive packages.
I would not object to being paid less than a local as long it was worth my while to work for a company. ie Salary, housing, school fees, allowances, local cost of living, saving potential etc are still in my favour.
If the location is unsafe/unattractive I want more $$$, nice place with good career prospects less $$$ will do.
At the moment job prospects in Australia are very good however taxes are very high so I choose to live abroad for better saving potential and faster advancement
I am not an unskilled labourer from the Indian sub continent and can afford to be selective in who I work for. If Royal Brunei don't pay enough their pilots will move elsewhere simple as that.
My present employer refuses to give pay rises and has been hit with a wave of resignations, flight cancellations are a possibility early next year. Then the message will get through.
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Going to the middle east because you`re pi**ed off at the way you`re treated as a local in Brunei has an very ironic twist to it. Soon you will discover as an expat in the gulf that the local workforce is on another deal than you, read better deal than you, and you will still be ending up with the short end of the stick.If you choose to leave Brunei for UAE, please go with your eyes wide open and not eyes wide shut.
Just a little advice from an ex. expat in UAE.
Just a little advice from an ex. expat in UAE.
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