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Sorry but, to me, the A380 is one of the most pig ugly beasts ever to fly. 
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Claybird
I must admit, she looks great!
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Totally agree PaxBoy.
I'm no fan of A380's or the equally uninspiring B787 and A350. In fact a lot of the interest has gone now we're offered mostly twin-engined cattle trucks that look very similar. Imagine the commercial aviation scene when MD11's, MD80's/MD90's and the T-tail regional jets are replaced by yet more wing-mounted twins.
I'm no fan of A380's or the equally uninspiring B787 and A350. In fact a lot of the interest has gone now we're offered mostly twin-engined cattle trucks that look very similar. Imagine the commercial aviation scene when MD11's, MD80's/MD90's and the T-tail regional jets are replaced by yet more wing-mounted twins.
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Ah, glad to see another of the old school on here! 
The big twins are all so bland. I understand - of course - why the world has gone to big twins but they have no elegance or sense of spirit about them. Small twins are fine, the 738 with winglets is beautiful.
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and that's about it!
The big twins are all so bland. I understand - of course - why the world has gone to big twins but they have no elegance or sense of spirit about them. Small twins are fine, the 738 with winglets is beautiful.
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Concorde
and that's about it!
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I must admit, she looks great!
Also why does it have a French reg in that picture?
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Also why does it have a French reg in that picture?
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Quote: "Sorry but, to me, the A380 is one of the most pig ugly beasts ever to fly."
The word "whalejet" comes to mind! yes, another of the old school. For me the jumbo 747 is unbeatable.
However, not yet been on the "whalejet", so this purely about appearance.
Quote: "Totally agree PaxBoy.
I'm no fan of A380's or the equally uninspiring B787 and A350. In fact a lot of the interest has gone now we're offered mostly twin-engined cattle trucks that look very similar. Imagine the commercial aviation scene when MD11's, MD80's/MD90's and the T-tail regional jets are replaced by yet more wing-mounted twins"
Quote: "Ah, glad to see another of the old school on here!
The big twins are all so bland. I understand - of course - why the world has gone to big twins but they have no elegance or sense of spirit about them. Small twins are fine, the 738 with winglets is beautiful.
VC10
747-400
Concorde
and that's about it!"
Yes, as far as appearance is concerned, it's the same with cars: compare the bland specimens of today which all look alike and the characters of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
The word "whalejet" comes to mind! yes, another of the old school. For me the jumbo 747 is unbeatable.
However, not yet been on the "whalejet", so this purely about appearance.
Quote: "Totally agree PaxBoy.
I'm no fan of A380's or the equally uninspiring B787 and A350. In fact a lot of the interest has gone now we're offered mostly twin-engined cattle trucks that look very similar. Imagine the commercial aviation scene when MD11's, MD80's/MD90's and the T-tail regional jets are replaced by yet more wing-mounted twins"
Quote: "Ah, glad to see another of the old school on here!
The big twins are all so bland. I understand - of course - why the world has gone to big twins but they have no elegance or sense of spirit about them. Small twins are fine, the 738 with winglets is beautiful.
VC10
747-400
Concorde
and that's about it!"
Yes, as far as appearance is concerned, it's the same with cars: compare the bland specimens of today which all look alike and the characters of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
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I believe first flight of a BA787 happened in the small hours here but not G-ZBJA which I think has yet to fly.
Quote aken from the Boeing Test flights Bl*g
"L/N 111 C/N 38610 B787-8 G-ZBJB British Airways
Dep PAE 16:52 PDT Arr PAE 18:30 PDT via MWH
Call Sign BOE451 Hex Code 40688F"
I wonder why B before A?
Pete
Quote aken from the Boeing Test flights Bl*g
"L/N 111 C/N 38610 B787-8 G-ZBJB British Airways
Dep PAE 16:52 PDT Arr PAE 18:30 PDT via MWH
Call Sign BOE451 Hex Code 40688F"
I wonder why B before A?
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"Yes, as far as appearance is concerned, it's the same with cars: compare the bland specimens of today which all look alike and the characters of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s."
there reason being of course that the current configuration has been proved to be the most cost effective to build, run and maintain
Until there is some technical breakthrough that requires more experimentation we're stuck with the "Boeing" standard I'm afraid
Anyone (such as HondaJet) are taking a hell of a risk departing from the path
there reason being of course that the current configuration has been proved to be the most cost effective to build, run and maintain
Until there is some technical breakthrough that requires more experimentation we're stuck with the "Boeing" standard I'm afraid
Anyone (such as HondaJet) are taking a hell of a risk departing from the path
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Anyone (such as HondaJet) are taking a hell of a risk departing from the path
I think we can accept the airline industry is run by beancounters and that is what SLF want - keeping spotters happy isn't part of the game.
My real lament is that we can't do the same in the housing industry - simple, modern houses using the latest energy saving designs, instead of horrid pastiche cookie cutter boxes, but I guess that's a diversion for Jet Blast
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Boeing 787-836 G-ZBJA has been sealed up windows blacked and joined the other 30 or so in storage and queuing awaiting the mods necessary to gain airworthy status by the looks of it.
View the Paine blogs elsewhere.
Some of those frames have been in store for 2 + years !
View the Paine blogs elsewhere.
Some of those frames have been in store for 2 + years !
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MD-11s
jabird
Regarding your question are there any MD-11 freighters still visiting UK airports?
Answer) London Stansted has regular calls by Martinair and FedEx MD-11s and has recently had calls by several UPS aircraft along with the odd visits from other carriers such as World.
Regarding your question are there any MD-11 freighters still visiting UK airports?
Answer) London Stansted has regular calls by Martinair and FedEx MD-11s and has recently had calls by several UPS aircraft along with the odd visits from other carriers such as World.
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Boeing 787-836 G-ZBJA has been sealed up windows blacked and joined the other 30 or so in storage and queuing awaiting the mods necessary to gain airworthy status by the looks of it.
Think 'BJC is the frame in question.
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I just booked our latest trip to LHR/YVR in Club World, upper deck on the 747 and as far as I am concerned that is the way to fly, just love the 747 and upstairs it is quiet and super comfortable.
We make the flight fairly regularly and I will probably weep when the 747 retires if the replacement is not as good - will it be 777, 787 or A380 anyone know?
If it is the 777 I will be giving Virgin a call.......!
We make the flight fairly regularly and I will probably weep when the 747 retires if the replacement is not as good - will it be 777, 787 or A380 anyone know?
If it is the 777 I will be giving Virgin a call.......!
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jabird
Ah, that's because the beancounters run that biz TOO!! Unfortunately, there is no equivalent of JA1 and the govts have been too timid. The regs about insulation and size of rooms and quality of electrics/plumbing installed? As long as it can last the time of guarantee? That'll do. 
When a house fails it's already on the ground and so not many die and so nothing is done.
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My real lament is that we can't do the same in the housing industry - simple, modern houses using the latest energy saving designs, instead of horrid pastiche cookie cutter boxes, but I guess that's a diversion for Jet Blast
When a house fails it's already on the ground and so not many die and so nothing is done.as you were
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Shorthaul flying for the A380 and B787 is now confirmed as FRA and ARN respectively.
Both these new aircraft will also be doing training flights into and out of MSE and will also be doing flights to other UK destinations, still TBA.
The first B787 is due on 26th June, second on the 27th June.
The first A380, G-XLEA, is due on the 4th July.
Both these new aircraft will also be doing training flights into and out of MSE and will also be doing flights to other UK destinations, still TBA.
The first B787 is due on 26th June, second on the 27th June.
The first A380, G-XLEA, is due on the 4th July.
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Both these new aircraft will also be doing training flights into and out of
MSE and will also be doing flights to other UK destinations, still TBA
MSE and will also be doing flights to other UK destinations, still TBA
The B787 will be put on Shuttles to GLA, MAN and NCL, but no dates given for any flights yet.