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Personally, I think the BFS base will be small. Most of the BFS-LHR flying can be done by ORK/SNN/DUB crews, as we all do London overnights anyway. Any Transatlantic will most likely originate in SNN, so will be crewed from SNN. The likes of BRU, CDG or AMS could also be flown by DUB/ORK crews, but will most likely be crewed by a small base in BFS.
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IE BFS Crewing
Ha Ha Ha.
To avoid confusion perhaps we should stick to the current vernacular. Will the BFS aircraft be crewed by "locals" or "Mexicans"?
Anyway, we continue to await this eagerly anticpated announcement.
To avoid confusion perhaps we should stick to the current vernacular. Will the BFS aircraft be crewed by "locals" or "Mexicans"?
Anyway, we continue to await this eagerly anticpated announcement.
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DECs?
Either (a) the planes can only be flown by people called Declan (I know a few of those, or (b) they're looking for Direct Entry Captains, to operate from the new BFS base:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=286084
Not sure that IALPA will feel particularly happy about that (even for pilots named Declan).
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=286084
Not sure that IALPA will feel particularly happy about that (even for pilots named Declan).
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I have inside information that EI will be dropping SNN-LHR completely, something which will be a major blow to the West of Ireland, and will have some serious consequences. I know a lot of people who use that route every week, including EI emplyees based at SNN (not counting crew and attendants), and loads always seem to be very good. Can't help but say I'm very disappointed.
Anyone wondering where Ei will fly to from BFS, just scroll down to the bottom here and you'll see the route map.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3539812/
Anyone wondering where Ei will fly to from BFS, just scroll down to the bottom here and you'll see the route map.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3539812/
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Well BFS-LHR flights are due to begin in January and will operate three times per day, the same as SNN has been. If the rumour is true, then BFS will get the LHR slots from SNN.
EI would have been better off taking three from DUB (leaving it with 10 daily departures) give those LHR slots to BFS, and use LGW to make up for the loss of the three flights, whilst DUB would recieve an extra daily flight to LON, in the form of a flight to LGW.
SNN needs the LHR flights more than BFS, as pax could just go to BHD and fly with BD, whereas EI pax have to either go to DUB (nightmare), drive to ORK (2-3hrs), or fly with FR (useless for connections).
If there'll be a petition, theres no doubt I'll sign it, and I'd hope many more on here would do so also.
EI would have been better off taking three from DUB (leaving it with 10 daily departures) give those LHR slots to BFS, and use LGW to make up for the loss of the three flights, whilst DUB would recieve an extra daily flight to LON, in the form of a flight to LGW.
SNN needs the LHR flights more than BFS, as pax could just go to BHD and fly with BD, whereas EI pax have to either go to DUB (nightmare), drive to ORK (2-3hrs), or fly with FR (useless for connections).
If there'll be a petition, theres no doubt I'll sign it, and I'd hope many more on here would do so also.
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There will be hell to pay if EI decides to cut SNN-LHR. As it is, it's very difficult to get through connections from anywhere to/from SNN, which can't help its accessibility.
I agree; cut a few of the DUB-LHR rather than SNN-LHR.
I agree; cut a few of the DUB-LHR rather than SNN-LHR.
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I'd assumed that the DUB-LGW route was to make up for cutting capacity on DUB-LHR to free Heathrow slots up for the new base.
Mind you I also heard a story (not terribly credible source) that EI may be looking at a ORK-BFS-JFK-BFS-ORK route when they are allowed to fly from the UK to the USA directly. That would hardly augur well for Shannon either.
Mind you I also heard a story (not terribly credible source) that EI may be looking at a ORK-BFS-JFK-BFS-ORK route when they are allowed to fly from the UK to the USA directly. That would hardly augur well for Shannon either.
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My sources tell me that just one of the SNN-LHR flights will go so that would still leave them with 3 in summer and 2 in Winter.
Not sure if EI would take CO on on BFS-New York although transatlantic in some shape or form is a distinct possibility. It's only a matter of time before someone comes in on ORK-JFK and EI would well advised to get in first.
Not sure if EI would take CO on on BFS-New York although transatlantic in some shape or form is a distinct possibility. It's only a matter of time before someone comes in on ORK-JFK and EI would well advised to get in first.
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Can the Irish government do anything with shareholding in EI to protect SNN-LHR?
Would EI ever consider SNN-AMS - no direct FR competition, and they could use AMS as an alternative/complementary hub to LHR thanks to their partnership with KLM
Would EI ever consider SNN-AMS - no direct FR competition, and they could use AMS as an alternative/complementary hub to LHR thanks to their partnership with KLM
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to protect SNN-LHR
If they are going to go transatlantic lets hope they go direct rather than routing through that hole in the hedge in the west of Ireland!
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has anyone heard any rumours about EI changing/delaying orders or options for the delivery of aircraft? either this year or next year? Everyone seems to be saying different things about whats going on in EI!
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Why protect Shannon?
For years and years Aer Lingus as a national airline was being dragged down the path of poor profits and uncompetitive practises as a result of Shannon. Now the company is private for the most part and not to mention that this is 2007 with Open Skies just around the corner...why should Aer Lingus still be forced to wear this chain around its neck????
Shannon is working fine as a low-cost hub...let it find its feet there, forget about Aer Lingus, that era is long over!
For years and years Aer Lingus as a national airline was being dragged down the path of poor profits and uncompetitive practises as a result of Shannon. Now the company is private for the most part and not to mention that this is 2007 with Open Skies just around the corner...why should Aer Lingus still be forced to wear this chain around its neck????
Shannon is working fine as a low-cost hub...let it find its feet there, forget about Aer Lingus, that era is long over!
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I'm not sure if they'll go but if they do Shannon will only have themselves to blame. They did a rushed and questionable deal with Ryanair at the back end of 2004 and virtually all of the short range opposition has left. The Shannon London market is flooded with cheap seats which must be putting huge presseure on yields on SNN LHR.