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Jet2...morrow
Oh I do like a bit of fun, and yes, stranger things have happened!!
EGCC4284, EMA was announced as a base some time ago!! Both good for LS and EMA...and I'd guess against LPL (due EZY & FR) or GLA (due EZY & GSM) / PIK (due FR).
Should we think further south or not?
PP
EGCC4284, EMA was announced as a base some time ago!! Both good for LS and EMA...and I'd guess against LPL (due EZY & FR) or GLA (due EZY & GSM) / PIK (due FR).
Should we think further south or not?
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Oh not all this again. Apparently there will be no more new bases announced for next summer. Humberside and Norwich were the front runners, but this has all been cancelled. I would like to hope this is untrue, but I don't expect anything new.
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Mike
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Mike
Unless they're increasing their fleet even more, very much doubt there will be another new base next year.
In the offchance that there is then my moneys on DUB...
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Financial & business predictions
Jet 2 is run prudently and without the legacy challenges of some (BA), so I would expect reasonably positive numbers this week, with a good dose of caution in the forecast.
Status quo in 2010 - no/or very low growth, consolidation of strong routes, chopping of poor performers and a robust defensive plan against FR at Leeds & EMA (routes that FR cannot serve as an Irish carrier from the UK)
Growth of Jet2 Holidays
Perhaps even a mention of new(er) aircraft for the future (B767?)
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Status quo in 2010 - no/or very low growth, consolidation of strong routes, chopping of poor performers and a robust defensive plan against FR at Leeds & EMA (routes that FR cannot serve as an Irish carrier from the UK)
Growth of Jet2 Holidays
Perhaps even a mention of new(er) aircraft for the future (B767?)
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Given current conditions probably not a bad performance though as yet there is no breakdown available to show how the individual components of Dart Group have performed
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Good to see Jet2 holding its own financially during these difficult times. Only about 18 months ago some were predicting its demise, e.g. Post 657 on this Forum suggested it was a corpse. The share price was well down. Some were prompted to speculate that maybe it would fall into the hands of Ryanair or EasyJet. There was talk about old aircraft and why would a LoCo buy 757's. Well 18 months on Ryanair and EasyJet are cutting and changing routes, Jet2 757,s seem well used, one off to New York from Newquay today I think, others doing Hajj duties to Saudia. Plus talk about 767's for Jet2. They appear to be doing okay as far as I can see which is good for the business, especially their bases and all those employed by them. They have come a long way in a short time.
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Creditable performance, but next year will be tough
With out a post XL event and the flood of money from the CAA that comes with it, together with the arrival of Ruinair at its cash cow base at LBA i think for now they have reached their peak in term of returns.
Of course there are many loyal Jet2 customers who will re book and not look at Ryanair, but Ryanair adds are going up all over Yorkshire right now and with very low lead in prices. This wont kill Jet2 of course but what it will do is reduce pax volume going into 2010 when pax number due to unemployment are still expected to down.
220+ on a 757 is great 140 less so, do the math's (or math?) 186 on 737-900 v the same on a 757
The new contract T&C 70/30 will help cut cost over the Summer, at least whilst the job market is crap
Of course there are many loyal Jet2 customers who will re book and not look at Ryanair, but Ryanair adds are going up all over Yorkshire right now and with very low lead in prices. This wont kill Jet2 of course but what it will do is reduce pax volume going into 2010 when pax number due to unemployment are still expected to down.
220+ on a 757 is great 140 less so, do the math's (or math?) 186 on 737-900 v the same on a 757
The new contract T&C 70/30 will help cut cost over the Summer, at least whilst the job market is crap
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facelookbovvered - whilst Ryanair growth at Leeds may hamper possible revenues at Leeds for LS it is worth bearing in mind that should the gowing get tough for them at Leeds they can grow from three other bases - Newcastle, Manchester and Blackpool. These 3 existing bases are all airports that have not been willing to play ball with Ryanair when they have come a knocking and demanded low airport costs. Yes I do recognise any expansion from Blackpool is limited but still room for minor expansion.
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That will help no doubt, but i suspect that rather more than 70% of the their passenger operation profits flow from Leeds, they face competion from IT operators at both MAN & NCL that they don't at LBA.
Ryanair are a slick operation and it will only be a matter of time before their Med based units start turning up at LBA even if there is only 4 or 5 based units the number of rotations will quickly drawf that of Jet2 and the their 737's can land cat 3 (R32) unlike Jet2 757's
No doubt the good people of Yorkshire will vote with their wallet
Ryanair are a slick operation and it will only be a matter of time before their Med based units start turning up at LBA even if there is only 4 or 5 based units the number of rotations will quickly drawf that of Jet2 and the their 737's can land cat 3 (R32) unlike Jet2 757's
No doubt the good people of Yorkshire will vote with their wallet
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"their 737's can land cat 3 (R32) unlike Jet2 757's"
The 757 can land cat3b! When we first got the 757, autolands where done at leeds, especially during line training, but due to the topography of the runway it was decided that it was best not to!! The airline used its head. Gypsy airways can do what it wants but I bet cat3 will be a worry for them and autolands will not be allowed!
Plus the yorkshire mass look after their own and will soon get tired of the rude, over priced chavs destroying the airline world!
The 757 can land cat3b! When we first got the 757, autolands where done at leeds, especially during line training, but due to the topography of the runway it was decided that it was best not to!! The airline used its head. Gypsy airways can do what it wants but I bet cat3 will be a worry for them and autolands will not be allowed!
Plus the yorkshire mass look after their own and will soon get tired of the rude, over priced chavs destroying the airline world!
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1st post? OK
Cat 3 has to be an Autoland and yes its the topography that causes the problem, Ryanair would not even have looked at LBA with out Cat 3 given LBA's morning weather (not just in winter either) problems, so if it gets below 550m the 757 are off elsewhere, The Jet2 classic fleet is not effected.
Leeds folk loyal to Jet2? erm their wallets maybe, remember Ryanair do what it says on the tin fly cheaper with few tech issues or delays, perhap we should revisit this in September 2010
Cat 3 has to be an Autoland and yes its the topography that causes the problem, Ryanair would not even have looked at LBA with out Cat 3 given LBA's morning weather (not just in winter either) problems, so if it gets below 550m the 757 are off elsewhere, The Jet2 classic fleet is not effected.
Leeds folk loyal to Jet2? erm their wallets maybe, remember Ryanair do what it says on the tin fly cheaper with few tech issues or delays, perhap we should revisit this in September 2010
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quote 737 speedbrakes "Any problems, Ryanair will cancel a flight. Jet2.com will always go out of their way to ensure the flight still runs. Period. "
just to add to that, Ryanair will cancel the flight and tell the passengers tuff luck! re-book and claim on your insurance! Whilst Jet2 will help the passenger whenever it can by either re-routing the flight, hotel accom, overground transport (bus) etc.
Ryanair is getting a dreadful reputation with passengers, I certainly would not be investing any money in ryanair shares as the future due to their arrogance doesnt look good!
just to add to that, Ryanair will cancel the flight and tell the passengers tuff luck! re-book and claim on your insurance! Whilst Jet2 will help the passenger whenever it can by either re-routing the flight, hotel accom, overground transport (bus) etc.
Ryanair is getting a dreadful reputation with passengers, I certainly would not be investing any money in ryanair shares as the future due to their arrogance doesnt look good!
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Perhaps before you board your Ryanair or Jet2 flight you should request the flying hours of the flightcrew operating the aircraft.
I suspect the overall level of flying experience of a Jet2 crew will be higher than that of a Ryanair crew.
I doubt there are many FO's in jet2 with less than 2-3000 hours.
What % of the ryanair flights have an FO with 200-1000 hours total?
I suspect the overall level of flying experience of a Jet2 crew will be higher than that of a Ryanair crew.
I doubt there are many FO's in jet2 with less than 2-3000 hours.
What % of the ryanair flights have an FO with 200-1000 hours total?
As for the relevance within this thread, is it? We don't want to get onto commenting on the experience of crews as this can lead to safety etc. which is a very touchy subject and I can see someone making a silly comment against Ryanair concerning their safety, which I may add is one of the safest in the skies.
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Ryanair ARE going to undercut Jet2 on price as they have a massive war chest (£2 billion+)
- Economies of scale - large fleet, large employee base and huge passenger numbers
- Superb deals for the airline on both new aircraft and airport contracts
- New aircraft
- Ancillary charges
- Ultra high efficiency levels - if in operation, planes spend little time on the ground
I have neighbours who are already defecting from flying Jet2 and booking with Easy/Monarch/Ryanair as Jet2 prices are getting expensive.!
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Question for you Jet 2 B757 crews, We are Cat 3A on the Airbus A300 needing200m Rvr and 50ft Radar Alt decision height for an approach however if the weather is sufficient for Cat 2 minima we can take a Cat 2 with limits of 300m Rvr and 100ft Radar Alt and make a manual landing if the Autoland is an issue could you not do the same or is this a training issue.
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Jet2 and EasyJet
2 x seats to Palma and return from Doncaster, total cost £181.28, with EasyJet
Jet2 from Leeds to Palma was £362.90 before payment fees. No prizes for guessing where a loyal Jet2 customer has gone.
Outward DSA - PMI 11/09/10 and return 25/09/10 - same dates used ex Leeds with Jet2.
Jet2 from Leeds to Palma was £362.90 before payment fees. No prizes for guessing where a loyal Jet2 customer has gone.
Outward DSA - PMI 11/09/10 and return 25/09/10 - same dates used ex Leeds with Jet2.