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Old 16th Apr 2008, 07:42
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That means we got away with 6 tons last night for free!!!!

What nonesense
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Old 16th Apr 2008, 08:24
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This is ridiculous. So where do you expect the crew to find the cash?? This is nonsense!!
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Old 16th Apr 2008, 10:55
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Its true at Newcastle at least. Have been told they are on stop list and to only accept cash for fuel.
Bollocks.

Typical rubbish thread as usual that we've come to expect from Ginga Worm.
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Old 16th Apr 2008, 17:14
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I agree what aload of rubbish. Also where are the cutbacks I seem to have missed them.
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 00:09
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I dont think you are any of those things, i do however think you are a bit of a spotter playing at being an expert.
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 00:19
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Slim Shady - no there isn't.

Furthermore, the Worm's comment - stating a 'truth' ... is simply plain untrue. It is also damaging and dangerous to those of us who are employed here.

Worm, there are hundreds of people earning an honest living from this Company and, whilst this is a rumour board, this one is malicious and could undermine public confidence from a basis of absolutely no validity whatsoever. This is serious and scurrilous.

I have a certain level of responsibility at Jet2 (some will realise my identity from my username) and therefore, as you will see, I normally don't post except in 'light' areas such as 'Where are they now?' But I cannot let this pass without commenting, because I am incensed that such an outright lie can be posted without any personal accountability.

I can assure you that in keeping with all similar airlines including, for example, EasyJet, we are taking measures to be economical with fuel. That most certainly does not include paying cash for it.

I have read all of your 23 posts - many of them are unpleasant and bitter .. but now please desist from making false statements that if made openly in public would be actionable.

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Old 17th Apr 2008, 07:03
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HI UK019 I read your post, and sense your frustrations. However, the soundings from the media in the last year have all been on the negative side, such as profits not at expectations, airline may rationalise, airline doesnt meet its targets etc. However, this doesnt give ppl the right to post widely untrue information as you suggest and seem to know better.

At Belfast International there is what i would say a very underutilised fleet of 737s and 757s. So often the 757 just sits doing nothing and many of the 737s are often parked during daylight hours and leaving late etc. I cant understand why this is so, one would have thought that higher utilisation would have made sense?
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 08:13
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Aircraft appear under-utilised due to the recent winter season. Under performing routes have been cut at most bases, and the 757 is used only if there are the passengers to fill it, otherwise it would make sense to use a 737 - would you not agree?

Jet2 has a rather large contract with the Royal Mail, and the 737s you see are in fact Quick Change aircraft - where all seats are removed and containers loaded. These operate weekday evenings/nights to various airports in the UK.

The summer season will see a heavier utilisation of aircraft again, as is the same with most other charter and low-cost operators.
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 18:03
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Jet2 making cut backs by taking the cabin crews comission. This has not gone down well and is in the hands of the union. I hope we strike !!!
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 18:05
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Jet2.com

Well that would help
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 18:27
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I hope we strike !!!
For the first time ever I'm going to say I don't agree with that comment, due to current climate but please, lets not start that debate.

I know the change in commision is a big kick in the b***cks but don't go making rash statements that cause rumors and mass panick!!

I'm a BALPA member too but why go and make the companies costs higher at a time when it could ruin them? The time to campaign is when the company starts doing well again (we hope!) and I'll be the first to start ranting over T & C's!!

I know the above view won't sit well with many but I'd like to keep my job for a while yet.......................
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 20:13
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Surely LS knew they weren't going to accpet that lightly?!

If I was a cabin member on an LS a/c, I would still fly, get paid but not offer the service.

You aren't losing anything and still getting paid!
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Old 17th Apr 2008, 20:57
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That could never happen. Management would wipe the floor with us!!
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 11:31
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Dear All,

Point 1:- A motion to strike in a non-unionised airline will only result in risking everyone’s job, in every department. Having spoken to many crew members I can tell you that it is only a very very few militant members of crew who have the views to strike. Given the current airline climate, and the number of applications we receive it would not be overly difficult to replace those who chose this risky, and rather illegal tactic.

For those of you who read this and wish to strike can I offer you this one bit of advice; leave quietly, hold your head up high and move on, because when you don’t, and do decide to strike you may lose your job, and any opportunity to work in this industry again. Just give the rest of us, the ones who really care about the airline, our families, our jobs and our mortgages a fighting chance to solve this issue by using the correct channels.

Point 2:- Over the past month or so I have personally signed for the best part of 150 tonnes or £81,000 of fuel, and not once was it questioned or queried. Oh and this did include NCL... Rash comments to the contrary posted by our “spotter” friend are false to say the very least. I do hope that people reading this forum look at the comments that have been posted and wish the airline the best of luck, for those that don’t; well I ask you to target your negativity into your own lives, not ours.

Unfortunately, having worked for several airlines that are no longer in existence, I wouldn’t wish the misery and heartache of watching all your friends lose their jobs on one day upon my worst enemy, don’t wish it on us.

BD & TH
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 13:16
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Jet2 making cut backs by taking the cabin crews comission. This has not gone down well and is in the hands of the union. I hope we strike !!!
Oh for God's sake, have a bloody word with yourself!

It's very clear that the company haven't done this to line the pockets of the board. They're doing it in order that the company remains viable and that you all stay in jobs.

It's life. Take the rough with the smooth, and live in hope of better times ahead, like 95% of the rest of the population. Of earth.

If the management didn't take action like this, and the company subsequently went under, you lot would all be crying about how incompetent the bosses were in letting it go to the wall. It's self preservation.

Take it on the chin and prepare to ride it out. If you strike en masse you will lose your job and probably take the company down with you.

Engage brain.

PS - Gingaworm's comments are actionable, even though he/she thinks he/she's making them anonymously. IP addresses are very easily traced from these forums, if you're inclined. Doesn't affect me either way, but I can tell you that the repeated false and unverifiable comments of said poster can land him/her in hot water if someone were to pursue them. The lawyer sat opposite me says so.
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 16:24
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Agree or disagree it's a forum and Gingaworm is entitled to his or her opinion. Also I don't think PPRUNE would be keen to give away IP addresses to third parties. It would be very damaging to the reputation of the forum.
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 16:38
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I think you'll find that if it came anywhere near legal action (and they have stated this in the past) then Danny & co would be passing on IP addresses quicker than the quickest person in Quicksville! Why should they suffer for a poster shooting his mouth off?
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 16:51
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Leodis - I think you are sadly mistaken if you think the reputation of the forum would triumph, in a legal battle, over the reputation of Dart Group PLC
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 16:51
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Back to point. I would surport the cabin crew standing for there rights, but don't push it to far, as other posters have said and I have seen it before, any action could damage other people who works for the company. I am not saying just sit and take it and that you are not important enought to make a stand because cabin crew play just as big a part as everyone who works for an airline if not bigger due to been in the pubblic eye.

Have been told the unions are talking to the company about the commishion subject, and it looks like they are not saying its writen in stone yet, so it could change.

In what ever the cabin crew determin to do good luck. just be carefull.
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Old 18th Apr 2008, 17:02
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Agree or disagree it's a forum and Gingaworm is entitled to his or her opinion.
Perhaps but not when there is intent to deliberately cause worry for those of us who actually do work for an airline.

I find it amazing that someone would want to see an airline colapse and its employees suffer.

It would be very damaging to the reputation of the forum.
My understanding of PPRUNE is that it's for the discussion / rumors of things like routes, handling, the occasional winge about an airline having delayed / cancelled flights, job interviews etc for those directly involved in the airline industry.

The increase in malicious and false posts for the sake of harming reputations is the main reason why those who are really in the know get fed up with this website.

Rant over.
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