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New titles on G-LSAA
Driving past the UK's highest airport today, it looked like the taxying 'AA has been sponsored by a leading sports kit manufacturer. The phrase 'Nike Air' springs to mind!
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Setel Up, just titles?!
Jet2 could really do a special livery on one of the aircrafts, or maybe even update their livery. Could still be silver and red to match the new seats, but something different for a change would be nice.
Is G-LSAK leased or owned? If owned why white? No time to paint the grey from January til now? Still I'm very curious to look at her, the only white 757 with winglets.
Jet2 could really do a special livery on one of the aircrafts, or maybe even update their livery. Could still be silver and red to match the new seats, but something different for a change would be nice.
Is G-LSAK leased or owned? If owned why white? No time to paint the grey from January til now? Still I'm very curious to look at her, the only white 757 with winglets.
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i presume painted white will make the aircraft more likely to be put on 'special duties', such as charters, lease work, strike cover (for BA etc............), technical replacements for other airlines etc........
or, i could be totally totally wrong..............
or, i could be totally totally wrong..............
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i think you're more or less on the money
i was told a while back that (AD) was kept in a basic livery as it cheaper to keep her white and cover up or remove the j2 logo's as she is due to be leased out over winter. i presume its the same with (AK).
still not keen on its nickname though (the flying tampon)
i think you're more or less on the money
i was told a while back that (AD) was kept in a basic livery as it cheaper to keep her white and cover up or remove the j2 logo's as she is due to be leased out over winter. i presume its the same with (AK).
still not keen on its nickname though (the flying tampon)
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And heres a PIC with the sporting Ticks you mention.
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Driving past the UK's highest airport today, it looked like the taxying 'AA has been sponsored by a leading sports kit manufacturer. The phrase 'Nike Air' springs to mind!
And heres a PIC with the sporting Ticks you mention.
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Without risking to sound like turning this into a spotters thread (we have been warned by Mods), AD and AK have been painted white in order to operate charters..... apprently 
Both are owned by Dart Group, in fact all 757's are with exception of AJ.
G-LSAK built in 1996 means a MTOW of 115 Tonnes as opposed to 113....
Both are owned by Dart Group, in fact all 757's are with exception of AJ.
G-LSAK built in 1996 means a MTOW of 115 Tonnes as opposed to 113....
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Jet2 to New York
According to a Jet2 Holidays leaflet "Holiday Deals 2010/2011", they are doing 3 night breaks to New York with departures from NCL and LBA on Dec 2nd and Dec 9th 2010. The leaflet is being used for door drops in various areas.
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AE and AC are ETOPS also, all the winglet aircrafts. 
Picture of G-LSAK Norwich Airport G-REDF & others
This website also shows 2x ex Flyglobespan 767-319ERs on the fleet list, G-CEOD and G-CDPT, both built in 2000. is this true or just speculation.
CH-Aviation - Airline News, Fleet Lists & More
Picture of G-LSAK Norwich Airport G-REDF & others
This website also shows 2x ex Flyglobespan 767-319ERs on the fleet list, G-CEOD and G-CDPT, both built in 2000. is this true or just speculation.
CH-Aviation - Airline News, Fleet Lists & More
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See posting 3419, 16 May 2010........and thanks for the G-LSAK photo....
Some curious facts about the two B767-319(ER)'s that were part of the FlyGlobespan fleet namely G-CDPT and G-CEOD.
The two airframes mentioned above were leased by FlyGlobespan in 2006 and 2007 respectively from International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC). Then on 19 October 2009 both airframes were flown from Glasgow to Jeddah and they were leased from FlyGlobespan by NAS AIR, a loco based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. This leasing is still valid today according to updated stats (18MAY2010). According to the NAS AIR web site and other sources, their own fleet is less than two years old and comprises of A320's and Embraer ERJ-190AR's and have a destination area from Jeddah that is coverered adequately by their actual fleet without the need of two B763's. Also there is no evidence that they ever used the B763 airframes in question and flew them almost immediately after their arrival in Jeddah to Shannon and Miami to be stored. It may be worth mentioning that in October 2009, FlyGlobespan were having serious problems with E-Clear, their credit card clearance agency, and there were claims that an amount close to 35 million pounds was owed to FlyGlobespan. It was at the time becoming obvious that survival of the airline was in doubt, so the discreet departure of these two B763's probably marked the beginning of the end.
Storing one airframe in Ireland and another in Miami, USA, would have been a commercial decision to have the aircraft available for any interested European or American client.
According to the UK CAA one of the airframes belongs to ILFC but not the other, although both their owners have Dublin adresses.
If it is correct that ILFC own the two airframes in question, then why would they allow them to be leased by FlyGlobespan to Nas AIR at such a precarious financial moment in FlyGlobespan's history? Also why would Nas AIR lease the airframes if they had no intention of using them and flew them from Jeddah to Shannon and Miami to be stored? Does this mean that JET2 are negotiating the deal with Nas Air or with ILFC?
Perhaps behind the scenes the airframes are owned by Saudi Arabian investors who are being represented by the International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC). This would explain the "leasing" deal by a Saudi Arabian airline and flying the aircraft to Jeddah to make it look like a normal low season or winter reduction of carrying capacity, albeit during a difficult financial period for FlyGlobespan.
Some curious facts about the two B767-319(ER)'s that were part of the FlyGlobespan fleet namely G-CDPT and G-CEOD.
The two airframes mentioned above were leased by FlyGlobespan in 2006 and 2007 respectively from International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC). Then on 19 October 2009 both airframes were flown from Glasgow to Jeddah and they were leased from FlyGlobespan by NAS AIR, a loco based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. This leasing is still valid today according to updated stats (18MAY2010). According to the NAS AIR web site and other sources, their own fleet is less than two years old and comprises of A320's and Embraer ERJ-190AR's and have a destination area from Jeddah that is coverered adequately by their actual fleet without the need of two B763's. Also there is no evidence that they ever used the B763 airframes in question and flew them almost immediately after their arrival in Jeddah to Shannon and Miami to be stored. It may be worth mentioning that in October 2009, FlyGlobespan were having serious problems with E-Clear, their credit card clearance agency, and there were claims that an amount close to 35 million pounds was owed to FlyGlobespan. It was at the time becoming obvious that survival of the airline was in doubt, so the discreet departure of these two B763's probably marked the beginning of the end.
Storing one airframe in Ireland and another in Miami, USA, would have been a commercial decision to have the aircraft available for any interested European or American client.
According to the UK CAA one of the airframes belongs to ILFC but not the other, although both their owners have Dublin adresses.
If it is correct that ILFC own the two airframes in question, then why would they allow them to be leased by FlyGlobespan to Nas AIR at such a precarious financial moment in FlyGlobespan's history? Also why would Nas AIR lease the airframes if they had no intention of using them and flew them from Jeddah to Shannon and Miami to be stored? Does this mean that JET2 are negotiating the deal with Nas Air or with ILFC?
Perhaps behind the scenes the airframes are owned by Saudi Arabian investors who are being represented by the International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC). This would explain the "leasing" deal by a Saudi Arabian airline and flying the aircraft to Jeddah to make it look like a normal low season or winter reduction of carrying capacity, albeit during a difficult financial period for FlyGlobespan.
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You are mile off about the GSM 767's.
The aircraft are owned by ILFC.
They were not leased to NAS.
They were operated on a ACMI (Aircraft Crew Maintenance Insurance) contract.
This means that for a cost agreed by the two parties GSM would provide an insured a/c with crew and maintenance to NAS Air.
NAS Air would then in turn have to pay for everything else like fuel and airways costs, plus lots more.
They were out in Jeddah doing the Haj flights. With the crews (GSM's own crew) being based in Delhi.
It would require the owners permission to sub-lease an aircraft to someone else, but an ACMI contract does not, as it is still operated by GSM and their crews.
So NAS have nothing to do with the aircraft in question.
When GSM went under in December NAS were left in the limbo as they had a contract for airframes with an airline that no longer existed.
Maybe because of this they were non to kind to the GSM crew stranded in Jeddah. It was a very fraught few days for the staff out there as NAS were refusing to repatriate them and had their passports, as per Saudi law.
The crews eventually, after cash was paid by the administrators, got to Delhi, from there Virgin flew them back for next to nothing.
On arriving home in the UK they had no job all this the week before xmas.
At least I was at home when the company went under.
Why they are on the Jet2 list of a/c is beyond me, but your last two paragraphs are utter and complete b******s.
The aircraft are owned by ILFC.
They were not leased to NAS.
They were operated on a ACMI (Aircraft Crew Maintenance Insurance) contract.
This means that for a cost agreed by the two parties GSM would provide an insured a/c with crew and maintenance to NAS Air.
NAS Air would then in turn have to pay for everything else like fuel and airways costs, plus lots more.
They were out in Jeddah doing the Haj flights. With the crews (GSM's own crew) being based in Delhi.
It would require the owners permission to sub-lease an aircraft to someone else, but an ACMI contract does not, as it is still operated by GSM and their crews.
So NAS have nothing to do with the aircraft in question.
When GSM went under in December NAS were left in the limbo as they had a contract for airframes with an airline that no longer existed.
Maybe because of this they were non to kind to the GSM crew stranded in Jeddah. It was a very fraught few days for the staff out there as NAS were refusing to repatriate them and had their passports, as per Saudi law.
The crews eventually, after cash was paid by the administrators, got to Delhi, from there Virgin flew them back for next to nothing.
On arriving home in the UK they had no job all this the week before xmas.
At least I was at home when the company went under.
Why they are on the Jet2 list of a/c is beyond me, but your last two paragraphs are utter and complete b******s.
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Delays
Anyone know why so many LS flights were delayed today, looking specifically at MAN really. One of the FAO-MAN was showing on Bournemouth Airports website at one point although have not checked it since, was expected at about 2115?
