MANCHESTER - 5

[Vuelo]

Jet will be codesharing with SN apparently to make use of their new services from BRU. Already announced on the BHX BRU oute so it is said.

What was that posting a few days all about pigs and ham??!!!

[MANFlyer]

What was that posting a few days all about pigs and ham??!!!

Well, as it followed the news of 2 x daily A380's at MAN and with references to Ham, Pork, Trough etc, if I was a betting man I may have a little flutter on it being about Flying Pigs.

[spud]

Those dreadful taxiways at MAN are hardly Avro Anson ready, let alone A380.

[spannersatcx]

Perhaps this is part of the British disease, whereby nobody ever takes much responsibility for anything and nobody's accountable.

More likely none of them can speak English

[aidoair]

More likely none of them can speak English

Beat me to it...

[lexxity]

However MA's duty manager should be on the floor keeping an eye on things and booting them up the bum if it gets too bad.

Not bloody likely, the TDM will be out in the check in area bollocking the airlines fot their queues. Too many pax, too little room. Too many pax, too little serviceable equipment, like baggage belts. Obvioulsy none of these issues are down to MAPLC though! T3 is well over capacity, especially first thing. The Gate 3 lounge is usually a nightmare, you can have upto five flights either gated or bussing from there at once!

[c2lass]

Well I sent a on line complaint last night, thought I may have had a reply today but surprise surprise, nothing!!

[Ian Brooks]

This does not seem to have been picked up by anybody

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6947816.stm

[Momentary Lapse]

I was just going to mention it.

Whatever happened to Airfield's plans for a southside radar malarkey? That's gone quiet. Will this project include it?

Has the radar on the control tower broken yet? It's well past it's replacement/service date.

[viscount702]

I will believe it when it happens.

It reminds me of the announcement in June 2005 about extending T2 to the west and everything that went with it, with work to start in 2006.

There have been other proposals as well but they all go quiet and then you find they have been dropped or replaced with something else which also doesn't happen.

I think the management have been taking lessons from politicians. Announcements and spin then everything goes quiet. It looks good at the time but comes to nothing.

What the airport needs is not more shops or other outlets to make money(although the airport needs to make money) but improvements to the airfield, more particularly to the Terminals to provided customers with what they deserve.

You will not get more passengers or flights particularly from major airlines whilst the the airfield (taxiways etc) are inadequate for an airport of MAN's standing or if the Customers have to wait too long for security etc, because of inadequate provision of either equipment or staff. Earlier posts about the state of catering is an example.

It is all well and good having a beautiful Tower as a symbol but the rest of the Airport needs to live up to the status that symbol is trying to portray.

Viscount

[chiglet]

Whatever happened to Airfield's plans for a southside radar malarkey?

Errrmmm, there is a dirty great mast, with a thing spinning on it, on a hillock, south of 23L.
I believe that it is the new SMR.....But I could be wrong
Ian, the "new" Tower has been mentioned umpteen times, not neccessarily on here.
watp,iktch

[semisonic]

i read this thread with interest and have followed its progress over a few years now. with regards to full service international routes manchester must be capable of significant development over the next year or two, with particular development from asia (cathay came close, thai rumoured for years now and the middle east carriers proving the pax are there). the management would not be doing the north west justice if they cannot secure such services, especially with the economic growth and the stature of manchester as an international city. come on manchester airport!

[Ian Brooks]

Cheers Chiglet
Must be going blind or something like that.
Could things happen by summer 2008? or is this a pipe dream
Have always wondered why they have stuck with tower in wrong place to get good view or both runways

Ian

[Fuel Boy]

Tower

I am led to belive that the ground traffic tower is to become a resturant, just what MAN needs more retail/food .

On the upside I have also heard that MAPLC are putting the final plans to the new A/C docking system not sure on a time frame but lets hope it's soon.....

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/manc...ews-160807.htm

Just found this news release on the new tower

[OltonPete]

EK/QR/EY pax for July

Just to give a bit of balance especially when considering the May and
June figures, the July 2007 ones are below.

MAN-DXB 45398 pax or 366 per flight or 85% load factor based on 433

MAN-DOH 17563 pax or 283 per flight

MAN-AUH 12182

The 2006 figures were: -

35861 DXB

14442 DOH

10844 AUH

GLA - DXB up to 22634 from 19907 (365 per flight or 845)

BHX - DXB up to 34523 from 27700 (278 per flight or 78%)

BHX did I think have a couple of 772's but mainly 77W's and 332's

All pretty good really.

Pete

[Ringwayman]

EK's 85% load on a 77WHD would be the equivalent of around 55% on an A380HD. Perhaps they are going to hold off the introduction of A380s on the route until the current services show a sustained 90%+ load

[AUTOGLIDE]

Personally I think MAN does need more retail development in order to give customer choice. T2 is a soulless and empty building with not much to do and a boring place if you are there for any length of time. It has one bar, the other one being always closed, one restaurant that is so packed in the morning I've yet to use it and a spattering of shops totally inadequate for the size of the building, 1 currency exchange which has never been staffed when I've needed it and 1 UK£ cash machine that I have yet to see work. T3 is even more boring and dreary, and T1 is, well, dreadful but thankfully being updated.
Yes MAN needs investment in the airfield, it also needs investment in the passenger experience. I can easily spend hours at LHR T4 mooching about, at MAN, forget about it, it's just rubbish as a place to spend any time.

[opnot]

viscont 702
you had better believe it

[FlyZB]

Autoglide, the comments in your last post reflect exactly what the passengers think. The airport compiles results from "Customer Satisfaction Surveys" every month and lists where it is doing well and the main areas of complaint. Every month the number one moan from pax is the lack of decent catering/retail facilities, including lack of choice and lack of space within the existing units. Other complaints to regularly appear from the survey are lack of seating and the state of the toilets. Both of these issues are being addressed in the T1/2 refurb.

Queuing very rarely appears as a top complaint. Many of you will be surprised about that but queues only affect certain periods of the day and therefore many passengers travelling through MAN will not experience queues either at checkin or at security. They do however experience the lack of airside facilities regardless of what time of day they travel, particularly in T2.

So for those of you who believe MAN doesn't need any more shops, cafes, bars & restaurants, you are very much mistaken.

[Mr A Tis]

The existing bars, cafes & "restaurants" are completely under staffed. There seems little point in providing more, if you dont staff the ones you already have.