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PK did (still do?) have rights for 5 5th freedom flights per week. They were using 4 on JFK and 1 on ORD, but don't know what they are utilising them on now.
As for JFK, it's not just BA that has seen a capacity reduction.
As for JFK, it's not just BA that has seen a capacity reduction.
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man=bfs 10 years ago???
was walking from staf west this morning and whilst walking through T2 arrivals it dawned on me ... it looks just like belfast 10 years ago. Concret road blocks armed police no go zones and maned road blocks.
makes me sad because the terroist's have won they have put the fear of god into everyone because unlike the I.R.A they are not scared to die??
its a sad time we are living in
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makes me sad because the terroist's have won they have put the fear of god into everyone because unlike the I.R.A they are not scared to die??
its a sad time we are living in rampman
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MAN always expected LON loads to drop, due to rail mainly, but also due to other Euro hubs being so much better than LHR.
I won't fly to US again due to their preposterous security checks. I doubt I'll even renew my passport if I have to pay £100 for it just to get a free id card.
My future is staying in my home country, doing business or pleasure by t'internet, and spending quality time with loved ones. Apart from hot sun, one can find most foreign pleasures at home if you look hard enough: food, drink, culture, and now bombs apparently
I won't fly to US again due to their preposterous security checks. I doubt I'll even renew my passport if I have to pay £100 for it just to get a free id card.
My future is staying in my home country, doing business or pleasure by t'internet, and spending quality time with loved ones. Apart from hot sun, one can find most foreign pleasures at home if you look hard enough: food, drink, culture, and now bombs apparently
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The "preposterous" US style checks will soon be with us here. All domestic travelers will be fingerprinted at LHR T5.
Not looking forward to my trip down to LHR on Wednesday. The change over to Aviance seems to have been a bit of a disaster.
Not looking forward to my trip down to LHR on Wednesday. The change over to Aviance seems to have been a bit of a disaster.
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Air Travel.
The old addage " Time to spare, go by air" is now more relevant than ever.
The "Department of Terror Inducement" (DTI), is virtually "Killing-off" the air travel industry with their "after the horse has bolted, knee jerk" security measures. They really do P**S me off.
Seperate all incoming pax from all outgoing Pax - WHY?? In the off chance that a "terrorist from a country with poor security checks could meet a fellow terroist going outbound and slip him a package to endanger the aircraft he was on!!?? - Are airline schedules really that good these days?? - don't think so. Anyway why not have gate security checks, a la Amsterdam, instead of making our airports a mish-mash of badly devided airside assets, that take you uphill and down dale in order just to satisfy this ridiculous rule. I personally am willing to take my chances vs the Bomber, as the chance of me being caught-up in one of Mr. Al-Queda's attempt to frighten us into submission is so minimal, that I bet Ladbrokes wouldn't even give you odds.
So "Mah Jeepsafire" has prevented anyone approaching a terminal building now in a motorised vehicle? I don't think the the London Tube bombers did that did they? Have any airports got measures in place to prevent any person with a rucksack on their back entering a crowded Terminal? No, but you can bet your bottom dollar that if it happens, the Dept of Terror Inducement will be quick to react by insisting that all air travellers arrive in the nude and send all their luggage by email attachment! Being sexist I couldn't wait for the next Under 21's Girls Hockey team to fly out!
Now about bringing back hanging for terror against a nation - ooh yes please
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"uphill and down dale"
B Pier anyone? Or C Pier for that matter.
So true about someone entering a check in hall with a rucksack. How many of those are there every day?
It's all about preventing the last atrocity, never anticipating and preventing the next one.
Airports and aircraft are so relatively impenetrable now (i.e. the GLA bombers didn't even get all the way through the front door), that my money's on rail stations, shopping centres, schools, hospitals, Wembley, or anywhere else with minimal security measures.
Alternatively, sitting up in the Peak District under the arrivals track with a shoulder-launched missile, with a getaway vehicle waiting: that'd be an easy win for the terrorists, eh?
Be vigilant, everyone.
B Pier anyone? Or C Pier for that matter.
So true about someone entering a check in hall with a rucksack. How many of those are there every day?
It's all about preventing the last atrocity, never anticipating and preventing the next one.
Airports and aircraft are so relatively impenetrable now (i.e. the GLA bombers didn't even get all the way through the front door), that my money's on rail stations, shopping centres, schools, hospitals, Wembley, or anywhere else with minimal security measures.
Alternatively, sitting up in the Peak District under the arrivals track with a shoulder-launched missile, with a getaway vehicle waiting: that'd be an easy win for the terrorists, eh?
Be vigilant, everyone.
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Mahan Air have had their permit to fly to the UK withdrawn, hence the cancelled flight showing on the MAN website today. It doesn't instill too much confidence into them returing in the short-term when the Department of Transport spokesperson says "it's not able to operate safely"
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Just read your posting and couldn't agree more.
The whole pretext of UK (and probably western) security policy is that Mr. or Ms. Terrorist organiser is slightly stupid, and a little soft in the head - doing things on impulse. At least that's how it appears.
No terrorist with half a brain is going to try the "4x4 in the terminal" sketch again. Perhaps a rucksack on the transfer bus from the carpark, or poison gas in the terminal - who knows?? One thing is for certain, operations are carefully planned, and the only reason that there wasn't considerable loss of life in Glasgow, or central London recently, was the ineptitude of the operatives.
When "Bin Bombing" improves his operatives' training, then we're in for serious trouble.
Shutting the proverbial stable door after the departure of the occupying horse is not going to make the UK safer.
The whole pretext of UK (and probably western) security policy is that Mr. or Ms. Terrorist organiser is slightly stupid, and a little soft in the head - doing things on impulse. At least that's how it appears.
No terrorist with half a brain is going to try the "4x4 in the terminal" sketch again. Perhaps a rucksack on the transfer bus from the carpark, or poison gas in the terminal - who knows?? One thing is for certain, operations are carefully planned, and the only reason that there wasn't considerable loss of life in Glasgow, or central London recently, was the ineptitude of the operatives.
When "Bin Bombing" improves his operatives' training, then we're in for serious trouble.
Shutting the proverbial stable door after the departure of the occupying horse is not going to make the UK safer.
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Air Berlin
Another airline reducing services I'm sorry to say.According to posts on A.net the STN flights are stopping at the end of October, blaming poor loads and yield. There weren't enough connections to Germany in my opinion on the morning departure, and the evening departures had arrival in Germany too late for the tourist.
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Air Berlin operating to STN was always a bit of a tall order, in my opinion. The MAN-LON market is contracting back to where it was before the West Coast Mainline effectively closed down, and connections via STN to Germany were never going to be too popular due to there being so many direct flights from both MAN and LPL.
MAN-STN would still be a very good prospect for Eastern or flybe, due to the premium business traffic between the North West and Essex/Cambridgeshire.
MAN-STN would still be a very good prospect for Eastern or flybe, due to the premium business traffic between the North West and Essex/Cambridgeshire.
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Guess they could look to wet-lease another operator to fly for them, but I doubt they'd be able to find someone cheap enough who is allowed to fly into the UK/EU to make the service worthwile.
Do Iran Air fly into London?
Do Iran Air fly into London?
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Yep, Iran Air still serves Heathrow-Tehran four times weekly with 747 Classics and the very occasional 747SP visit. Without starting a thread all of its own, I'd wager these are the oldest aircraft flying regular scheduled services into the UK.
Anyway, most of the Mahan Air passengers weren't going to Tehran - I thought the majority were going to Bangkok anyway!!
Anyway, most of the Mahan Air passengers weren't going to Tehran - I thought the majority were going to Bangkok anyway!!
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Air Berlin never seem to advertise that you can fly to London with them
only onwards to Germany, Spain etc perhaps if they had contacted the Business travel operators and made them aware of the service things might be different. When I worked in business travel we used to have at least 10 pax a day on the MAN-STN flights as they were convienent for our customers going to places like Colchester, Chelmsford and Luton which are very difficult by train
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only onwards to Germany, Spain etc perhaps if they had contacted the Business travel operators and made them aware of the service things might be different. When I worked in business travel we used to have at least 10 pax a day on the MAN-STN flights as they were convienent for our customers going to places like Colchester, Chelmsford and Luton which are very difficult by train
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When I worked in business travel we used to have at least 10 pax a day on the MAN-STN flights as they were convienent for our customers going to places like Colchester, Chelmsford and Luton which are very difficult by train
I came through the airport a couple of days ago, through the domestic/BA Terminal, T3, and using the rail link.
Under normal circumstances it can take longer to walk from the train station to T3 than it takes the train to get out from central Manchester to the airport, you have to walk the length of T1 along the way.
At the airside end of T1 during this march it is necessary to go up one floor by escalator. This escalator was dismantled, in what looks like a long-term replacement process. The only alternative shown was to use a small lift between the two floors. This had a huge milling crowd around it, was very slow in operation, and only held about 10 people at a time.
It took several iterations of the lift before I could even get in it, and there seemed to be no alternative route at all. A good 10 minutes wasted. How can such an incompetent arrangement have been organised ?
Under normal circumstances it can take longer to walk from the train station to T3 than it takes the train to get out from central Manchester to the airport, you have to walk the length of T1 along the way.
At the airside end of T1 during this march it is necessary to go up one floor by escalator. This escalator was dismantled, in what looks like a long-term replacement process. The only alternative shown was to use a small lift between the two floors. This had a huge milling crowd around it, was very slow in operation, and only held about 10 people at a time.
It took several iterations of the lift before I could even get in it, and there seemed to be no alternative route at all. A good 10 minutes wasted. How can such an incompetent arrangement have been organised ?