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CEO Ousted
If I may just paraphrase Maggie Thatcher - "Just rejoice at that news, and congratulate those that have brought about his downfall."
Proof if proof were needed, that softly softly catchee monkey works and if you are patient, and give enough rope, some people will hang themselves. Job done!
The fact is that by making it so very public through the media etc and with letters to all airport staff and concessionaires, it is obvious that this is far, far more serious than some political correctness matter which would probably only have merited a bit of private leave and would have been done on the quiet anyway.
The truth will out in the fullness of time and Skyman771 is right - he's not in jail, Yet!
The deeper the investigators probe, the more they will find. We may even get to the truth of why AA pulled the plug so conspicuously. But if there's one thing which is certain, he isn't going to be returning to Newcastle and I dont expect his future employment prospects have been done a power of good either.
Long live the whistle blower and a heartfelt thanks from the very silent 99.9% of Newcastle Airport Staff for doing what had to be done.
Proof if proof were needed, that softly softly catchee monkey works and if you are patient, and give enough rope, some people will hang themselves. Job done!
The fact is that by making it so very public through the media etc and with letters to all airport staff and concessionaires, it is obvious that this is far, far more serious than some political correctness matter which would probably only have merited a bit of private leave and would have been done on the quiet anyway.
The truth will out in the fullness of time and Skyman771 is right - he's not in jail, Yet!
The deeper the investigators probe, the more they will find. We may even get to the truth of why AA pulled the plug so conspicuously. But if there's one thing which is certain, he isn't going to be returning to Newcastle and I dont expect his future employment prospects have been done a power of good either.
Long live the whistle blower and a heartfelt thanks from the very silent 99.9% of Newcastle Airport Staff for doing what had to be done.
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Air Transit flights summer 2007
New flights
19 July 2007 13:30 Newcastle / Toronto Pearson Intl TS 835
22 August 2007 07:20 Toronto Pearson Intl /Newcastle TS 846
looks good dont know if this is instead of TCX in high season.
19 July 2007 13:30 Newcastle / Toronto Pearson Intl TS 835
22 August 2007 07:20 Toronto Pearson Intl /Newcastle TS 846
looks good dont know if this is instead of TCX in high season.
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AE is ment to join us later this week when AG or AI is delivered (think AG might already be with us jsut not in service yet tho, think its at multiflight in LBA)
We dont need the 2nd 757 untill Fri when the PMI starts
AE is ment to join us later this week when AG or AI is delivered (think AG might already be with us jsut not in service yet tho, think its at multiflight in LBA)
We dont need the 2nd 757 untill Fri when the PMI starts
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Can anyone shed anymore light on the TS YYZ service for summer 07? Is it operating in addition to TCX and GSM flights?
Looks as though from the schedule that it is also shared with somewhere else. What type of a/c operating the route and is it a charter or scheduled service?
Looks as though from the schedule that it is also shared with somewhere else. What type of a/c operating the route and is it a charter or scheduled service?
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Easyjet 7th aircraft is a 737-700 will come from Luton i think. Should arrive for Saturday.
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Easyjet 7th aircraft is a 737-700 will come from Luton i think. Should arrive for Saturday.
Does this mean there will be A319s moving into LTN? Or will a 737 move from BFS to LTN, and a A319 move to BFS?
Youve confused me EZY don't have any A319s at NCL to move to LTN.
On the EZY issue this mornings early morning inbound Bristol was showing, I noticed, on this mornings airport arrivals board as cancelled. Is this correct? or was it a mistake. I know the Summer timetable started this weekend but please lets not hope if this was an EZY cancelled flight we are about to have a repeat of the disaster that was last years EZY summer cancellations!!
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Easyjet 7th aircraft is a 737-700 will come from Luton i think. Should arrive for Saturday.
Does this mean there will be A319s moving into LTN? Or will a 737 move from BFS to LTN, and a A319 move to BFS?
Youve confused me EZY don't have any A319s at NCL to move to LTN.
On the EZY issue this mornings early morning inbound Bristol was showing, I noticed, on this mornings airport arrivals board as cancelled. Is this correct? or was it a mistake. I know the Summer timetable started this weekend but please lets not hope if this was an EZY cancelled flight we are about to have a repeat of the disaster that was last years EZY summer cancellations!!
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I was meaning, will a brand new A319 be replacing the 737 on the northbound journey? I thought that LTN was just a Boeing fleet, until the transition when the 737s are disposed of? Correct me if I am wrong.
I think it is BFS, NCL and LTN that are all Boeing bases, with the rest of the UK and European bases being Airbus?
I think it is BFS, NCL and LTN that are all Boeing bases, with the rest of the UK and European bases being Airbus?
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Thanks for the info meant to go back and check the boards but never had the time.
On the Open Skies agreement, does anyone else think this makes the possibility of a direct NCL - USA route less likely. As far as I can see it will increase the number of transatlantic flights but airlines are going to put any spare aircraft into places like London, Madrid, Frankfurt etc re Virgins recent plans to expand into Europe.
Anyone else agree?
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Thanks for the info meant to go back and check the boards but never had the time.
On the Open Skies agreement, does anyone else think this makes the possibility of a direct NCL - USA route less likely. As far as I can see it will increase the number of transatlantic flights but airlines are going to put any spare aircraft into places like London, Madrid, Frankfurt etc re Virgins recent plans to expand into Europe.
Anyone else agree?
Thanks
Open Skies
Yes - bad news all round for NCL (and MME). Transatlantic companies will be looking to increase flights into LHR etc rather than the UK regions, and as slots at LHR become even more scarce it will be the domestic flights which feel the squeeze.
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Air Transat
When you go through and book flights with Air Transat NCL-YYZ it is actually flying with Thomas Cook Airlines, in partnership with Canadian Affair. All must have a link with TS somehow. Shame, Air Transat was a nice widebody addition to NCL airlines.
When you go through and book flights with Air Transat NCL-YYZ it is actually flying with Thomas Cook Airlines, in partnership with Canadian Affair. All must have a link with TS somehow. Shame, Air Transat was a nice widebody addition to NCL airlines.
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If your on about when the Airport company had the ramp, they were all gone long before Mr P arrived!!
There was that much that went on after Parkins arrival. You being in Airside Ops (if thats what you do) would know that. Your guys had to re apply for your jobs under Parkins leadership, and some did not get them after years of service with NIA.This paved the way for new positions to be filled with some staff from other tenants on the airport who were being paid a pittance. Some people actually admired what Parkin did, others had nervous breakdowns as they were frightened to question what he told them to do. I know one of the security staff who was brave enough to go and see him to tell him morale among them was rock bottom and he sat with his feet on his desk and pointed out of the window, and said "the planes are still taking off".
It might come out in the investigation, the real reason why AA pulled out before they even started. It is incredible to think all the rumours that went around NIA for years and nobody in a position of authority listened. Also, the same local councils that gave Parkin a standing ovation, are now treating this with 'great concern'.
Its strange to say this, but only a few months ago, any posting on here about Parkin would have been pulled or censored as this thread was(!) closely monitored by NIA, under its then dictatorship.
Its too late for me now, but I hope you get a good CEO replacement who can take NIA forward as I wish the airport my very best.
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Re Open Skies It is very easy to jump on the band wagon of this as being bad for the regions re longhaul US prospects. Insofar as I can see all that it is bad for is the pressure that it puts on UK domestic slots into LHR which has been widely publicised and which there is already some evidence of at MME when reviewing BMI's current operations there. I really can not see this as having any other effect upon the regions, if the demand is there & the resource capable of supporting the operations then these services should either propsper or fail as they would under previous ecconomic trading conditions.
I have yet to see any ecconomic model that suggests that there is infinite demand for US longhaul out of LHR, it is clearly the preferred UK destination of airlines but even reviewing pre "Open Skies" conditions the demand was not strong enough to force up fairs even to the extent that premuim airlines such as UA have struggled on some destinations.
You can take the discussion in another direction, limited availablity of slots & high volume dictates larger aircraft, which in itself releases smaller aircraft for other destinations. Take CO for example, their strategy of lower capacity to more remote destiantions is paying off & why should this now change ? Their 757's for example will not 'double up' on a route which supports a 777, and are to be around presumably for may years.
Finally you have the punter who as normal comes a poor last in this, if they are given the choice then few in the regions are likely to want to go anywhere near LHR if they can fly direct. The arguments are not new they are to an extent simply another view of the running argument of Europe - A380 & major hubs vs. US B787 & regional.
I have yet to see any ecconomic model that suggests that there is infinite demand for US longhaul out of LHR, it is clearly the preferred UK destination of airlines but even reviewing pre "Open Skies" conditions the demand was not strong enough to force up fairs even to the extent that premuim airlines such as UA have struggled on some destinations.
You can take the discussion in another direction, limited availablity of slots & high volume dictates larger aircraft, which in itself releases smaller aircraft for other destinations. Take CO for example, their strategy of lower capacity to more remote destiantions is paying off & why should this now change ? Their 757's for example will not 'double up' on a route which supports a 777, and are to be around presumably for may years.
Finally you have the punter who as normal comes a poor last in this, if they are given the choice then few in the regions are likely to want to go anywhere near LHR if they can fly direct. The arguments are not new they are to an extent simply another view of the running argument of Europe - A380 & major hubs vs. US B787 & regional.
Open Skies
Skyman - you're applying logic and this is about the airline business...
I think you may be right long term but in the short term Open Skies will be - at the very least - a major distraction for the big boys and I just don't see the UK regions being a priority.
Interesting to see if anybody will do something with the wide open spaces which look like likely to appear at LGW.
I think you may be right long term but in the short term Open Skies will be - at the very least - a major distraction for the big boys and I just don't see the UK regions being a priority.
Interesting to see if anybody will do something with the wide open spaces which look like likely to appear at LGW.