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SimJock you made one complaint about a pair of departing falcons. My problem with that is that as you speak of yourself as being a pilot you should know that sometimes due to safety reasons, ie separation, pilots and ATC have no other option but to overfly sensitive noise areas.
As a pilot you should realise that the falcons fly with heavy external pods that produce alot of drag, to overcome this power is required in climb out!
If you want to experiance noise you should move to the Leeming Teesside gap. Here you get low flying (down to 250ft) military aircraft, alot noisier than falcons. Also MME inbounds and departures and Leemings inbounds and departures. Although Leeming is quieter these days night flying was always noisy before the F3s left. Be thankful that MME is there, as if it closed the MOD would alomost certainly look to increase the size of the low fly corridor and so you would have alarms going off on a more regular basis! If you don't like it MOVE.
As a pilot you should realise that the falcons fly with heavy external pods that produce alot of drag, to overcome this power is required in climb out!
If you want to experiance noise you should move to the Leeming Teesside gap. Here you get low flying (down to 250ft) military aircraft, alot noisier than falcons. Also MME inbounds and departures and Leemings inbounds and departures. Although Leeming is quieter these days night flying was always noisy before the F3s left. Be thankful that MME is there, as if it closed the MOD would alomost certainly look to increase the size of the low fly corridor and so you would have alarms going off on a more regular basis! If you don't like it MOVE.
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And on that note has anyone heard anything about TNT moving back? There is a little hint of it on the TNT thread in the Freight Dogs forum about the engineering downroute bases being re-opened as it's been a disaster without them. 
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You might not like the noise SimJock but you have to admit they look impressive flying as a close pair.
They land over our house every day virtually and never fail to impress. We had two Turkish 737's, landing 2 hours apart mind you ,over last summer and they were lower than the Falcons. They were doing a sharp left turn over our house presumeably to avoid SAMs and that wasn't called for. It wasn't the noise really that annoyed me it was the look on the passengers faces.
They land over our house every day virtually and never fail to impress. We had two Turkish 737's, landing 2 hours apart mind you ,over last summer and they were lower than the Falcons. They were doing a sharp left turn over our house presumeably to avoid SAMs and that wasn't called for. It wasn't the noise really that annoyed me it was the look on the passengers faces.
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NCL inbound Diversions last night:
GSM---- Globespan Alicante landed 21:55
BCY67D London City landed 21:59
SHT8V Heathrow landed 22:10
EZY6930 Amsterdam landed 22:33
EZY89H2 Bristol landed 22:18
BEE255 Southampton landed 22:26
RYR662 Krakow landed 22:40
KLM 1293 Amsterdam landed 22:36
BMI1HY Heathrow landed 23:18
EZY11ZF Stansted landed 23:35
SHT8S Heathrow landed 22:30
EZY6930 Amsterdam landed 22:20
FR818 Dublin landed 22:10
Looking at the acars, MME seems not to have been considered. Even NCL seems to have been third choice for some.
ACARS mode: 2 [free ground stations/uplink select by aircraft ] Aircraft reg: G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 1 Msg no: M51A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
HELLO . IN THE HOLD AT M
ARGO FL360 DUE EDI SNOCL
OSED. GOT ABOUT ANOTHER
75 MINUTES OF FUEL BEFOR
E WE NEED TO DIVERT. DIV
ERSIONS FILLING UP. ANY
PREFERENCE AS TO DIVS
ACARS mode: 2 [free ground stations/uplink select by aircraft ] Aircraft reg: G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 9 Msg no: M54A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
COULD YOU TRY ON PHONE T
O SEE IF GLA MIGHT TAKE
US AS ATC SAY NO. MAY NE
ED TO START PLAN TO GET
ON GND AT NCL OR PIK FOR
GND TRANSPORT
G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 7 Msg no: M58A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
BOTH GLA AND PIK REFUSE
DIV. PLAN IS NCL
Credit for all the above goes to North-East-Aviation-Enthusiasts
GSM---- Globespan Alicante landed 21:55
BCY67D London City landed 21:59
SHT8V Heathrow landed 22:10
EZY6930 Amsterdam landed 22:33
EZY89H2 Bristol landed 22:18
BEE255 Southampton landed 22:26
RYR662 Krakow landed 22:40
KLM 1293 Amsterdam landed 22:36
BMI1HY Heathrow landed 23:18
EZY11ZF Stansted landed 23:35
SHT8S Heathrow landed 22:30
EZY6930 Amsterdam landed 22:20
FR818 Dublin landed 22:10
Looking at the acars, MME seems not to have been considered. Even NCL seems to have been third choice for some.
ACARS mode: 2 [free ground stations/uplink select by aircraft ] Aircraft reg: G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 1 Msg no: M51A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
HELLO . IN THE HOLD AT M
ARGO FL360 DUE EDI SNOCL
OSED. GOT ABOUT ANOTHER
75 MINUTES OF FUEL BEFOR
E WE NEED TO DIVERT. DIV
ERSIONS FILLING UP. ANY
PREFERENCE AS TO DIVS
ACARS mode: 2 [free ground stations/uplink select by aircraft ] Aircraft reg: G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 9 Msg no: M54A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
COULD YOU TRY ON PHONE T
O SEE IF GLA MIGHT TAKE
US AS ATC SAY NO. MAY NE
ED TO START PLAN TO GET
ON GND AT NCL OR PIK FOR
GND TRANSPORT
G-EZDU [A319-111]
Message label: 81 [Off report] Block id: 7 Msg no: M58A
Flight id: U211ZF [easyJet]
Route: [London/Stansted, United Kingdom-Edinburgh, United Kingdom]
Flight: STN-EDI Distance: appr. 275 miles Flight time: appr. 0:50 h
Message content:-
BOTH GLA AND PIK REFUSE
DIV. PLAN IS NCL
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http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GNV_2-2_en.pdf
Depending on the regulars, I bet you could squeeze all of them in somewhere.
Depending on the regulars, I bet you could squeeze all of them in somewhere.
DTV redundancies?
my little mole tells me the credit crunch has started to hit the airport with redundancies announced in various departments. Any one have more information ?
I know things have been pretty poor lately but not good news at all.
Will this effect the way the airport is planning for the future?
Or this the beginning of the end ???
I know things have been pretty poor lately but not good news at all.
Will this effect the way the airport is planning for the future?
Or this the beginning of the end ???
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Nothing on the Peel website at the moment but I found this and think it sums up the company.
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more bad news for MME
As an ex baby pilot at MME (who misses the place a lot, MME not baby!) i am always sad when things head South, but i gather the man who must be called Capt William has said the ERJ & route will be gone by April. 
and more bad news
Not only the london route,but probably the airport at this rate.
Airport closed most of yesterday due snow and lack of equipment/manpower to clear-again!! and also last couple of days not even enough ATC staff to keep it going closures announced for the last three days.
Looks bleak???
Airport closed most of yesterday due snow and lack of equipment/manpower to clear-again!! and also last couple of days not even enough ATC staff to keep it going closures announced for the last three days.
Looks bleak???
and also last couple of days not even enough ATC staff to keep it going closures announced for the last three days.
FROM: 09/02/13 08:00 TO: 09/02/13 13:30
E) DUE ATC STAFF SHORTAGE NO ATC SERVICE AVAILABLE BETWEEN 0800-0830,
1030-1100, 1300-1330.
E) DUE ATC STAFF SHORTAGE NO ATC SERVICE AVAILABLE BETWEEN 0800-0830,
1030-1100, 1300-1330.
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The BMI route is completely useless for access to Heathrow OR Teesside on business. I am flying up next month on a BMI ERJ-135 and the timings I had to struggle with were awful. This route is CLEARLY a slot sitter as no one interested in serving MME-LHR would ever have these timings. What a joke.
The ERJ-135s are coming out of LHR I believe so end of the line as a once succesful route is killed by it's own airline.
I'm booked for the 1st and 2nd of April. Will I be flying? Keen to try the ERJ-135 as the BMI ERJ-145 from ABZ-LHR last year was "cosy" !
The ERJ-135s are coming out of LHR I believe so end of the line as a once succesful route is killed by it's own airline.
I'm booked for the 1st and 2nd of April. Will I be flying? Keen to try the ERJ-135 as the BMI ERJ-145 from ABZ-LHR last year was "cosy" !
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