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Old 23rd Jun 2007, 12:35
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The TOM went tech in Dalaman, therefore they brought an extra one up from somewhere else to cover the Corfu flight while the based one did Bourgas after it (finally) got back from Dalaman.

May passenger numbers are below....

Total 75404 for May 2007

Aberdeen 3056 (57.27%)
Alicante 6293 (91.34%) [shared GSM, JKK, TOM]
Amsterdam 10428 (70.84%)
Arrecife 1624 (90.22%)
Bodrum 636 (57.82%)
Bourgas 327 (109.2% based on half an A320 with BGH) [shared BGH, TOM]
Brussels 877 (36%)
Dalaman 3199 (86.91%) [shared OHY, TOM]
Dublin 4721 (56.77%)
Faro 1895 (85.75%)
Gerona 4130 (78.04%)
Heathrow 6927 (67.74%)
Ibiza 2472 (78.93%) [shared GSM, JKK, TOM]
Larnaca 1565 (82.80%)
Mahon 1240 (82.01%)
Malaga 6392 (88.38%) [shared GSM, TOM]
Palma 8346 (77.04%) [shared GSM, IWD, JKK, TOM]
Paphos 1629 (86.19%)
Reus 2215 (80.25%) [shared BMA, TOM]
Tenerife 1865 (98.68%)

As you can see...
Tenerife 98.68% got off to a strong start possibility of more flights next summer? 2 a week in the winter compared to just 1 this summer.
Alicante doing well, we'll see whether the load factor drops when GSM add more flights later this month (June)
Arrecife was another strong performer

As for scheduled flights...
Amsterdam conveyed a lot of passengers as usual, and the Heathrow enjoyed a higher load factor now that ERJ's are being used.
Aberdeen performed well again, Brussels is still growing.
Ryanair's Dublin seems to be fledgling a bit, whereas Gerona is doing much better, almost got more pax with 3 flights a week compared to the Dublin's 5!
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 17:05
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ATC

The article itself hasn't been on yet, but the headlines of North East Tonight News said something about MME ATC, I only heard the words "Handing over" and "Can't cope" so it doesn't look good.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 17:56
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Was on BBC Look North as the top story, just saying that they'd been shutting for 30 mins, nothing more than we already know. Also the report said that 2 new controllers had been licenced so that should help solve the problem. Whether that is just 2 current ones being licenced onto radar or completely new ones onto tower I don't know.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 18:59
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Yes sorry, a mistake on my part, it was BBC Look North, not ITV North East Tonight.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 23:30
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Also the report said that 2 new controllers had been licenced so that should help solve the problem. Whether that is just 2 current ones being licenced onto radar or completely new ones onto tower I don't know.
There are two new validated controllers in the tower now. Hopefully this will speed up the training of other controllers on radar to help elevate the problems.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 10:33
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alleviate not elevate .... (just a typo...we know what you mean though!)
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Oslo

What is the Oslo flight It Shown as operated By SAS But its not down in the Route map?

Any info
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Seems to be a series of charters for (school kids?) has been 4 visits in this series similar to last time (possibly last year?).

Also a quick note that KLM have slots in for 4x daily to MME over the winter, all Fokker 70's. The new flight runs around lunchtime and should prove popular with connections off the later Atlantic flights if it goes ahead (remember they had 4x in the schedule last winter and for this summer until they pulled it, third time lucky maybe).
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 18:08
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Oh right that would explain why you can't book them

Must have been going on for about 3 weeks now Yeah

Also whats the security Situation Fly out on thursday Are they doing Car checks, and Are the security ques Long? Not Panicking just want to Know what to expect!

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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 20:05
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside
Also a quick note that KLM have slots in for 4x daily to MME over the winter, all Fokker 70's. The new flight runs around lunchtime and should prove popular with connections off the later Atlantic flights if it goes ahead (remember they had 4x in the schedule last winter and for this summer until they pulled it, third time lucky maybe).
I am surprised by this, since they didn't exactly pull the plans for 4x daily this summer, they just upgraded the 1537/8 from a Fokker 70 to a Fokker 100, but after just a mere matter of days, they went back to a Fokker 70?

Sure, we still get the odd F100, but thats been the case for years, we even get the odd F50.

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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 21:34
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Kl Ams

Its great that the route is such a sucess from both NE airports....
that'll be 9 daily flights combined.
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Old 11th Jul 2007, 20:41
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Anyone know whats happening with Globespan?.I just recieved an e-mail telling me my booking to Malaga has been moved back one day, apparently there are to be cancellations between 6/9-25/10 due to "low demand"
If they can't make Malaga work there really is no hope.
Mrs Carbheat is chuffed to bits.
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Old 11th Jul 2007, 20:54
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looking at the flyglobespan website, frequency cut on all routes from the beginning of September. Stll looks like they need 2 aircraft but one is going to be sat around a lot. Hope they stick it out till next summer when hopefully there will be more demand if Thomson is not there.
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 09:14
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The frequencies aren't being cut as such, September is the start of the winter schedules so it's a completely different programme anyway.

I have been informed by someone at the airport that MME will be a 1-aircraft base this winter for GSM.
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 09:43
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For most other operators winter starts end October??
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 09:45
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Ah yes it does doesn't it? In that case we're hip deep in sh...
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"The frequencies aren't being cut as such, September is the start of the winter schedules so it's a completely different programme anyway."

sorry DTV, but a flight which is booked in Easter, on the airlines website,which clearly shows daily departures all through september and october and then is subsequently CANCELLED due to " low demand"
IS a frequency cut.
It isn't the start of the winter programme it is more like the withdrawal of one aircraft due to loss of revenue, profit whatever.
I don't like to see this happening to my local airport, but since Peel Holdings came on the scene it seems to be continuous bad news...............
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 10:27
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Calm down guys!
Winter starts at the end of October for everyone as people have said.
These routes were never going to be sustainable at such high frequencies once the main part of the summer is over (remember the increased freq's only started in July). Also, kids go back to school early September...

Looks like the following will happen...
ALC - daily > 5 weekly (dropping Mon, Wed)
FAO - 3 > 2 weekly (dropping Fri)
IBZ - 2 > 1 weekly (dropping Fri)
JER - finishes early October
MAH - finishes end of October
AGP - 5 > 4 weekly (dropping Thu)
NCE - finishes early September (did this run thru to October originally?)
PMI - daily > 5 weekly (dropping Tue, Thu)
PUY - finishes late September
Possibly dropping to one aircraft, not sure. Would have to work out the schedules to see what happens.
In brighter news, first Wizz to Warsaw is early tomorrow morning, arriving at 0750 and departing 0815.
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 10:40
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I'm calm.
The point is,I suppose, if one has booked a flight on the assumption that it is going to depart on the 6th of September and then the carrier decides it isn't, then there follows a round of e-mails and telephone conversations in pidgin spanish, re-booking of hotels, lost deposits etc etc. One is finally drawn to the inevitable conclusion that the whole business is a crock of and that next year it will be simpler to pay the car parking charges in Newcastle.
Multiply that by a few hundred or so similarly affected punters and I suggest that Peel do have something to worry about.
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GSM at MME

Well folks I pointed out sometime ago, as it came from a reliable source that GSM were going to reduce frequencies and drop down to one based aircraft from October. Here we are a few weeks later and GSM have done exactly what I was told would happen.

The romour is and that next Summer MME will remain a one based aircraft operation with extra capacity served on a W pattern from elsewhere. GSM management are unhappy with yield so far from MME and it looks like they are not prepared to be do a BMI baby and start messing around trying new routes,.If next Summer things don't pick up they will be gone by October 08.

The message is therefore very clear to the folks at MME if you don't start to use them your going to loose them!!
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