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Belfast
Has there been any further work carried out on the Belfast since its recent wash?
Posts in early May on the CL44 thread in the Freight Dogs forum indicated that further progress would be made in late May.
Posts in early May on the CL44 thread in the Freight Dogs forum indicated that further progress would be made in late May.
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Sadly, you would probably have seen or heard more on Friday than you would today.
Heard nothing in the sky or on the radio, except one turning back because of weather.
Will tomorrow be any better?
Heard nothing in the sky or on the radio, except one turning back because of weather.
Will tomorrow be any better?
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A nice change!
Just had an AWACS doing orbits and, according to overheard, he did a low approach on the ILS, mixing it with the Cessnas and PAs.
Made my day, even if he did have a talent for flying into the few clouds.
Made my day, even if he did have a talent for flying into the few clouds.
Runway Extension
The Minutes of the SEN Consultative Committe meeting on 20 May, just published on the airport website, say that a runway extension of 300m has been agreed with the CAA.
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With regards to the runway extension-Is this a physical extension or is it a modification of the permitted length? I understood that the airport had to impose a shorter runway length (like at LCY) in order to get its commercial passenger certificate.
It is proposed to be a physical extension of 300m added to the existing paved length of 1605m.
The current paved length includes displaced thresholds on each runway and a 90m RESA on 06. It was really only the RESA that reduced SEN's declared distances by any great amount at the time of the CAA review some years back.
The current paved length includes displaced thresholds on each runway and a 90m RESA on 06. It was really only the RESA that reduced SEN's declared distances by any great amount at the time of the CAA review some years back.
The Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) Options Report drawn up by Southend Borough Council and Rochford District Council goes out to public consultation next week.
There are four possible options ranging from no development of SEN to maximum development including a runway extension to 1,799m and expanding the industrial/commercial estates around the airport.
Any one option may be followed in light of the consultation, or a mix from all four, but it is believed that the councils favour the runway extension being included and this would be completed by May 2011.
There are four possible options ranging from no development of SEN to maximum development including a runway extension to 1,799m and expanding the industrial/commercial estates around the airport.
Any one option may be followed in light of the consultation, or a mix from all four, but it is believed that the councils favour the runway extension being included and this would be completed by May 2011.
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Hello Expressflight long time no speak. As a tax payer of the borough I am afraid I see this as more bad news. A couple of years ago the plan was to be up and running long before the Olympic UK fiasco (even you must agree with me there). Now we are looking at possible conclusion by May 2011. I cannot see this as a realistic target and SEN may as well forget the games as a springboard for the airport relaunch. The fact that most of the airlines are struggling to make any money and will continue to do so for the next 2-3 years seems to me to leave SEN high and dry. This is not merely a pessimistic view it is based on my involvment in the aviation industry since 1977 and the many twists and turns that I have witnessed. SEN and whoever takes over the airfield will have to have divine intervention and unlimited funds to turn the airfiled into an airport.
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Good to hear your thoughts.
The management of LSACL certainly believe that the extended runway can be in service by May 2011. The fact that the Olympics are on the horizon may actually concentrate minds within the planning system to ensure that matters are expedited to meet that deadline.
I agree with you that all airlines are going to find the next few years difficult and my guess is that 2008's traffic figures may not be reached again until around 2011 (putting my 43 years involvement in aviation to good use). That could be to SEN's advantage, however, as their enhanced capability to attract new airlines will come on stream just as (hopefully) things are picking up again. The current situation could mean that STN's second dunway is deferred and it seems likely that LTN will be treading water during that period, so SEN's prospects may actually be brighter than would have seemed the case just six months ago.
The new owners will certainly need substantial funds and it will be interesting to see their take on the situation once the successful bidder emerges.
Good to hear your thoughts.
The management of LSACL certainly believe that the extended runway can be in service by May 2011. The fact that the Olympics are on the horizon may actually concentrate minds within the planning system to ensure that matters are expedited to meet that deadline.
I agree with you that all airlines are going to find the next few years difficult and my guess is that 2008's traffic figures may not be reached again until around 2011 (putting my 43 years involvement in aviation to good use). That could be to SEN's advantage, however, as their enhanced capability to attract new airlines will come on stream just as (hopefully) things are picking up again. The current situation could mean that STN's second dunway is deferred and it seems likely that LTN will be treading water during that period, so SEN's prospects may actually be brighter than would have seemed the case just six months ago.
The new owners will certainly need substantial funds and it will be interesting to see their take on the situation once the successful bidder emerges.
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In your opinion with the extra tarmac what a/c types will it enable SEN to handle. With the aging fleet of Avros / 146 the newer generation 319's and even the EMB hulls do not seem to offer a great deal of flexibility in regard of maximising the TTOW.
The declared distances should be very similar all round to those at SOU, which gives a fair idea of the sort of types that could be expected to be able to operate at normal weights from SEN. Specifically, all the EMB variants and most of the 737 variants (with the probable exception of the 738 I suspect), A318/319/320, and all the prop twins. These latter types might become an even greater part of the movement mix at many airports in a high oil cost environment, due to their much lower fuel burn/km. I believe the ATR/Q400 burns around 2.2litres/km compared with the 738 burn of 7.4litres/km for example.
The sale of LSACL, originally planned for completion at the end of June, is now likely to be completed in July.
I understand that the airport staff have been informed that the parties bidding to be declared 'preferred bidder' have finalised their offers.
I understand that the airport staff have been informed that the parties bidding to be declared 'preferred bidder' have finalised their offers.
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Light A/c Down at SEN today
I here that around 11.15am today a Light A/c has pranged at SEN. No more details known except airfield fire service had to cut at least 1 person free.
Hope all are ok.
J
Hope all are ok.
J
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http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/en...ex/7489723.stm
Edited to add it was a wheels up landing, runway now clear.
Info from a reliable source based a Southend
Edited to add it was a wheels up landing, runway now clear.
Info from a reliable source based a Southend
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As I heard it, the aircraft (type unknown) suffered a radio failure and also landed wheels up, suggesting a major electrical fault to me.
It landed at around 1010z and the air ambulance was cancelled en route as injured were described as "walking wounded".
Sorry, that's all I know.
It landed at around 1010z and the air ambulance was cancelled en route as injured were described as "walking wounded".
Sorry, that's all I know.