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Steviec9, Landing is not so much of a problem. But taking off with fuel, passengers and baggage on the current runway would see you in the field at the end. The problem at the moment is that you take passengers as far as normandy with hand baggage then refuel to get anywhere else 
. With the new runway extension the same aircraft you mentioned will be able to take off with the passengers,fuel and baggage, that means airlines/ passengers will be able to use the airport for usefull flights. The airport will still not be able to handle cargo or noisy medium to wide body aircraft. Which is all good 
. With the new runway extension the same aircraft you mentioned will be able to take off with the passengers,fuel and baggage, that means airlines/ passengers will be able to use the airport for usefull flights. The airport will still not be able to handle cargo or noisy medium to wide body aircraft. Which is all good
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SENFLYER thanks - understood, I wasn't aware that loaded landings were possible with the larger types.
Here's hoping SEN gets a new lease of life soon with the station, extended runway etc. I for one will be happy to have a smaller airport alternative to STN, LGW and LHR only 40 odd mins from Liverpool Street and Stratford.
Here's hoping SEN gets a new lease of life soon with the station, extended runway etc. I for one will be happy to have a smaller airport alternative to STN, LGW and LHR only 40 odd mins from Liverpool Street and Stratford.
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Sunday Express (Financial) - Mention (article page 1)
According to Tracey Boles and Alastair Welch SEN is ready for take-off! It will bea gateway air port the size of SOU! Runway extension decision expected on January 20.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Stobart gets ready for jets
Tom McGhie, Financial Mail
Trucking firm Eddie Stobart is expected to get permission this week to extend the runway at Southend Airport in Essex. Once Stobart has been given the go-ahead by the council, it will add 300 yards to the 1,755-yard strip, which will make it possible for jets such as the Boeing 737 and Airbus 319 to land at the airport.
The plan then is rapidly to develop the facilities so that the airport can cope with two million passengers a year by 2014. The first passengers flying on larger planes are expected to use the airfield later this year. Stobart bought Southend Airport last June as part of a plan to develop a UKwide transport network using its trademark trucks, trains, waterways and now planes.
As part of the company's train expansion, it plans to open a new rail link to the Stratford Olympic site in east London by May.......
Tom McGhie, Financial Mail
Trucking firm Eddie Stobart is expected to get permission this week to extend the runway at Southend Airport in Essex. Once Stobart has been given the go-ahead by the council, it will add 300 yards to the 1,755-yard strip, which will make it possible for jets such as the Boeing 737 and Airbus 319 to land at the airport.
The plan then is rapidly to develop the facilities so that the airport can cope with two million passengers a year by 2014. The first passengers flying on larger planes are expected to use the airfield later this year. Stobart bought Southend Airport last June as part of a plan to develop a UKwide transport network using its trademark trucks, trains, waterways and now planes.
As part of the company's train expansion, it plans to open a new rail link to the Stratford Olympic site in east London by May.......
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Is it not highly unusual and asking for trouble, no matter what you are told by officials, to issue an announcment on any planning decision prior to official announcement, I was most surprised by Mr Welch's comments last weekend. Maybe it's just me!
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Not called in but the Minister wants to look at it if the council give the go ahead. He will then sign it off or call it in.
Southend Airport plan: Government intervenes (From Echo)
Southend Airport plan: Government intervenes (From Echo)
serko is nearly right.
What seems to be the situation is that the Secretary of State, John Denham, has ruled that he will review any planning consent agreed at tommorrow's meeting before it can be officially granted. He may decide to rubber stamp the consent, or he may decide to call for a Public Enquiry.
What seems to be the situation is that the Secretary of State, John Denham, has ruled that he will review any planning consent agreed at tommorrow's meeting before it can be officially granted. He may decide to rubber stamp the consent, or he may decide to call for a Public Enquiry.
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Good to see after all these years things starting to take shape
I'm struggling to find real information, does anyone know the
TODA,LDA,TORA and Stopway ???
I read they are currently looking at 1799m plus 80 starter extension (I presume on RW24 due the railway embankment) another report says the Current Runway is 1600m and the extension is 300m plus 80m starter extension.
1800m is short but a usable length for a B738, only this or the A319(not sure the max pax on this one) can get the numbers of pax predicted 2m, with the number of departures allowed under the environmental study. (4 aircraft(175 seats), 8 sectors, 363 days a year) = 2,032,800 per annum. by 2016
Looks like FR operation
I'm struggling to find real information, does anyone know the
TODA,LDA,TORA and Stopway ???
I read they are currently looking at 1799m plus 80 starter extension (I presume on RW24 due the railway embankment) another report says the Current Runway is 1600m and the extension is 300m plus 80m starter extension.
1800m is short but a usable length for a B738, only this or the A319(not sure the max pax on this one) can get the numbers of pax predicted 2m, with the number of departures allowed under the environmental study. (4 aircraft(175 seats), 8 sectors, 363 days a year) = 2,032,800 per annum. by 2016
Looks like FR operation
F14
The figures for both runways will be:
TORA 1739m
TODA 1799m
ASDA 1739m
LDA 1604m
The Starter Extension on 06 (not 24) is there to give both runways the same figures and is necessary due to the increased length RESA between the end of TORA/ASDA on 06 and the railway.
RESA on 06 stop end will be increased to 150m and that for 24 will remain at 240m, but without the present roadway between the runway and its RESA.
1799m is not really enough for economic 738 operations so it's EZY with their A319s (full pax load to the Med destinations should be possible) that they'll be targeting as a lo-co operator I assume. I don't think they want FR in fact.
The movement cap of 53,500 pa does not limit the number of ATMs in any way (other than at night) so any mix of types can easily provide 2mppa.
ILS will be added to 06 so increasing SEN's appeal to operators and the new terminal/rail station combination should give potential transfer times from aircraft to train of as little as 10 minutes.
All in all this should make SEN a viable option as a London arrival/departure point.
The figures for both runways will be:
TORA 1739m
TODA 1799m
ASDA 1739m
LDA 1604m
The Starter Extension on 06 (not 24) is there to give both runways the same figures and is necessary due to the increased length RESA between the end of TORA/ASDA on 06 and the railway.
RESA on 06 stop end will be increased to 150m and that for 24 will remain at 240m, but without the present roadway between the runway and its RESA.
1799m is not really enough for economic 738 operations so it's EZY with their A319s (full pax load to the Med destinations should be possible) that they'll be targeting as a lo-co operator I assume. I don't think they want FR in fact.
The movement cap of 53,500 pa does not limit the number of ATMs in any way (other than at night) so any mix of types can easily provide 2mppa.
ILS will be added to 06 so increasing SEN's appeal to operators and the new terminal/rail station combination should give potential transfer times from aircraft to train of as little as 10 minutes.
All in all this should make SEN a viable option as a London arrival/departure point.
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I wonder if they will also be targetting airlines like Germanwings, Air Berlin and Transavia and looking to poach their ops from other London airports....all should easily clear those limits and may benefit from slightly shorter flying distances. Plus Transavia seem to like changing London airport every couple of years. Norwegian could be another contender.
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Nice info Express Flight.
Yep it's too small for the B738. Problem is I can't see Easy going there, small airports aren't their style LGW/STN/LTN. FlyBe could do it, but their planes are too small for proper low cost.
The new runway needs to be 200m longer TORA/LDA. Or maybe they should look at re-opening my favourite Bradwell Bay ?
Yep it's too small for the B738. Problem is I can't see Easy going there, small airports aren't their style LGW/STN/LTN. FlyBe could do it, but their planes are too small for proper low cost.
The new runway needs to be 200m longer TORA/LDA. Or maybe they should look at re-opening my favourite Bradwell Bay ?
SEN will never have a runway longer than 1,799m, even assuming that actually happens, as its runway width limits it to being Code 3C. It cannot be widened because strip width limitations (the church) would preclude it.
Mind you, compared to its current declared distances 1,799m will transform its prospects/ambitions to become a real contender in the London market.
I would have a little bet on EZY actually for reasons which I won't reveal here at the moment.
Mind you, compared to its current declared distances 1,799m will transform its prospects/ambitions to become a real contender in the London market.
I would have a little bet on EZY actually for reasons which I won't reveal here at the moment.