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Old 9th Nov 2015, 22:57
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BE seem to be fighting harder and more up for the challenge lately, lets face it FR have had plenty of time to move their EMA service to BHX and have had opportunity to operate MAN also from NOC and have sat tight on that front. Looking from closer to here BE have took on EZY on BHD-LPL and have held their own on a raft of other domestic routes against EZY, I see no reason they wont succeed, especially with no competition from Scotland to the west of Ireland.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 00:50
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BHX-NOC

Flybe booking engine showing BHX-NOC as Mon-Sat no Sunday flight.

BE563/4 1230 1355 1040 1205

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Old 10th Nov 2015, 06:03
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Here are the currently proposed flight times:

EDI-NOC / NOC-EDI

14:10-15:35/16:00-17:20 Monday to Friday
10:40-12:05/12:30-13:50 Sunday
No Flight Saturday

BHX-NOC / NOC-BHX

10:40-12:05/12:30-13:55 Monday to Saturday
19:00-20:25/20:50-22:15 Sunday

MAN-NOC / NOC-MAN

07:30-08:40/09:05-10:20 Monday to Friday
11:30-12:40/13:05-14:20 Sunday
No Flight Saturday

So Birmingham is daily then, not six a week as announced?
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 08:22
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BHX-NOC

Great news for NOC! In the early hours BHX-NOC was showing via EDI on Sundays. It's about time BHX was reintroduced. I remember BMIBaby filling 737s on the route.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 15:26
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Will knock stay open until 9pm every sunday night?
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 15:37
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It possibly might if one of the London services also moves to later Sunday evening, I think a later evening Sunday service to Luton or Stansted would be popular. Then again flybe may well change the timings between now and the route launch.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 18:48
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BHX back to 6x weekly. All the free council money has probably gone towards paying flybe to operate the routes.

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Old 10th Nov 2015, 19:02
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BHX is 7x weekly not 6x daily. Exactly how do you come to the conclusion BE are being paid to operate routes at NOC?
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 19:07
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Apologies, 6x weekly. Its not 7x weekly that was likely an error, have a look at the flybe website now, and the airport press release here :Ireland West Airport Knock.

Of course that could have been solved with common sense, but either your lacking in that or you just refused to acknowledge it to annoy others.

Anyways, flybe in 2016:
MAN 7x
EDI 6x
BHX 6x

A nice 19 weekly rotations!

Also, if not being paid, why would flybe SUDDENLY be persuaded to bring back BHX?
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 19:41
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I appreciate subsidy does happen but it's one big assumption when there's no evidence. Interesting that over on the DSA thread the same theories are being banded around. Things change, demand peaks and troughs, also I believe BHX have cut landing fees recently which may have helped swing the route in again, but in many respects I don't think they ever wanted to axe EDI or BHX but at the time they were making sweeping cuts to save money. The axe fell that way on that occasion.
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Old 10th Nov 2015, 20:24
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
Apologies, 6x weekly. Its not 7x weekly that was likely an error, have a look at the flybe website now, and the airport press release here :Ireland West Airport Knock.

Of course that could have been solved with common sense, but either your lacking in that or you just refused to acknowledge it to annoy others.

Anyways, flybe in 2016:
MAN 7x
EDI 6x
BHX 6x

A nice 19 weekly rotations!

Also, if not being paid, why would flybe SUDDENLY be persuaded to bring back BHX?
That's a pretty bold statement your suggesting - why wouldn't they do these routes?? BHX has long been a solid route at Knock and it's clear Flybe were rash in slashing so many routes last March - Edinburgh is a no brainer - no service from any airport in the west - it's s pretty substantial allegation your making there without any evidence to back it up but looking at your profile uve clearly a Shannon bias .......why did Aer Aran restore BHX in Shannon ?? For the good of their health !!!! Doubt it very much !!! I'm neutral here and want to see growth at both airports and I'm sure Shannon will continue to grow also their uk network - let's give credit where credit due to both airport and airline on this occasion !!

Ps looking at recent media cuttings on the council investment the airport has €9m of debt and the council contribution is to be used partly to service the debt

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Old 10th Nov 2015, 20:30
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Why does any airline start any route Aer Ryan? There are many reasons but ultimately it is because they think they can make a profit from it. I'd say Knock have incentivised these routes to some extent as most airports do, not least your own airport of choice, but there is plenty else that any funding Knock might have received will need to be spent on.
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 23:25
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Just looking at the 9 uk routes knock will offer next summer it will now have the uk well covered . Strong marketing and awareness campaigns will be crucial across the west and northwest for the Edinburgh route , I think Birmingham will look after itself.

It's a pity the Sunday flight is not timed like the bhx flight to give a decent weekend in either Ireland or Scotland .It will also be interesting to see how man performs at the early am slot as opposed to afternoon. Although bmi baby started the man route at the same time and it performed very strongly.

I see ei are cancelling their bhd Lgw route from next March .I hope aer lingus remain operating the noc Lgw flight and it's not handed Over to ba to operate.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 09:18
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Iwak - BA coming on to the LGW route might actually be a good thing if it was to happen in terms of easier connectivity to their network.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 18:43
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It wouldn't be the worst thing but ba won't be as cheap as ei for point to point flyers.

Anyway it's great to have noc as a destination on the BA site!
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 19:12
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BA are moving all operations to S Terminal in November 2016 at LGW and will join EI and IB there, would imagine VY will follow with BA.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 22:05
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Just wondering is there going to be more us pilgrimage charters for summer 2016.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 19:45
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Originally Posted by iwak
Just wondering is there going to be more us pilgrimage charters for summer 2016.
I've heard it's not looking likely at this stage - but who knows information could be wrong !!
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 20:40
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are you referring to US charter by Aer Lingus on 757, or is it the flights to Lourdes? The Lourdes always happens, as long as I can remember there have been Lourdes charters, for pilgrimage, and I US, my understanding and I think I read on here that there would be some for 2016... but not sure on specifics... I guess the local travel agents will know about Lourdes.




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Old 24th Nov 2015, 22:15
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Re Knock /New York flights


Aer Lingus has provide four aircraft for Knock/New York pilgrimage to fill and they will land in IWAK. This on the strength of feed back from the maiden flight that took place in August 2015 and looking at return flights
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