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Old 12th Nov 2006, 16:02
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Originally Posted by Bell Rhyni
Does BFS not also handle a fair amount of freight?
Yep, not sure of the exact figures but it was around 50,000tonnes in 2004.
TNT, DHL, Jet2, UPS, Air Contractors, Titan, Atlantic...

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90% is a bit of an over-exaggeration. Don't forget Jet2 and bmiBaby's daily services, thrown along with the extensive summer charters, trans-Atlantic scheduled services, freight... and Flybe diversions.
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Old 12th Nov 2006, 16:14
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and Flybe diversions

cruel young Kestrel ...cruel
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Flybe reported in Belfast Telegraph to be requesting that the soon to be released EIP results must include an extension of one hour if they are to expand their operations out of City. This would reduce the number of diversions to BFS, but how likely is it to happen?
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would
surely could...unless they also have the wind switched off for them as well!!
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No, 'would' is correct.

The vast majority of flybe movements at BFS are not technically diversions at all - they are re - routed flights duue to the restrictive opening hours at BHD.

Very very few (i can only think of one or two in the last few years) of flybe's diversions to BFS are due the wind. Every now and again CATII approaches are flown (BHD only CatI) and I know of one which had a hydraulic pump fail and went to BFS for the extra runway length.

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Old 16th Nov 2006, 21:03
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Originally Posted by jollypilot

The vast majority of flybe movements at BFS are not technically diversions at all - they are re - routed flights duue to the restrictive opening hours at BHD.

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What restrictive opening hours are these?

Perhaps these are the hours that allow arrivals on a regular basis into Bhd at up to 23.30hrs as seen on ceefax P457 quite often? The restrictions would only be a problem if they were enforced, which they haven't been for a long time, if ever. What reasons will then be given for the airport that keeps expanding while pax decline, if after the "restrictions" go, pax numbers don't go up.

See Flybe are promising major expansion at just about every airport in the UK. And they're going to use slots at eg, Fra now used by say services from Man, to launch services from Bhd. Why would you lose a service from say man or bhx into fra or Cdg to launch from Bhd. Surely the earnings potential from one of the majors across the water must be better than Bhd, regardless of whether there is a service from Bfs? This isn't a Bfs vs Bhd point, I just can't see that from the Flybe point of view, this would be an effective use of scarce slots. Will it ever happen?

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Old 17th Nov 2006, 13:01
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Very very few (i can only think of one or two in the last few years) of flybe's diversions to BFS are due the wind. Every now and again CATII approaches are flown (BHD only CatI) and I know of one which had a hydraulic pump fail and went to BFS for the extra runway length.
OK ...the wind was facetious...HOWEVER .the number of diversions arriving around 2300 or later and the number of diversions to BFS due to "problems" with the aircraft over the years I have been at BFS ARE substantial.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 19:22
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Easyjet

Most UK new routes opened for booking today. Only see Krakow mentioned under BFS....... another false dawn me thinks.....

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No signs of the five extra routes.

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Old 28th Nov 2006, 10:02
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I don't know about the five new Easy routes from BFS but I see that flybe have announced two new services from the City. Rennes and Newquay are joining the network and I hear there are at least three more to come in the next few weeks.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 11:58
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Oooh......so we've now got two international airports again?

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Old 28th Nov 2006, 12:05
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Rennes once on a Saturday.........give it a month!!
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 08:08
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Good to see Flybe Rennes & Torquay to the schedule from BHD.
Anyone any idea what the 3 other likely routes are going to be ?

- Paris, Brussels, Cardiff, Copenhagen ???
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 16:12
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Hi All!

Just noticed that BMI are doing a BHD/VRN flight next Summer for Falcon Holidays on as Sat.

BRGDS

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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 11:10
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Originally Posted by eastern wiseguy
Rennes once on a Saturday.........give it a month!!
Another positive comment, as usual - I thought the more routes out of BHD would be the better for you - after all if BHD were not there, would BFS need all the controllers they have now - food for thought!
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What a STRANGE COMMENT ...thought you didn't read or post here?.As it happens I am NOT going to discuss manning levels in the Belfast TMA with a spotter but welcome back!
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 11:21
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A spotter! - if only you knew how wrong you are!! Oh and by the way, almost forgot - the recent announcement from Manx2 to start ops from BHD is a precursor to pulling out of BFS at or before the end of the winter schedule!

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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 11:55
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announcement from Manx2 to start ops from BHD is a precursor to pulling out of BFS at or before the end of the winter schedule!

I suppose they will be taking up the space left mysteriously UNOCCUPIED by the much vaunted BMiBaby move......
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 17:29
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now now kids behave could be a very interesting day at bfs 2 morro gusts to 55kts just came through the fax machine going to enjoy being on the ground looking up rather than up wishing i was down
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Nice to see a few Shamrock tails on the ramp at BFS today. Could be more of the same tomorrow if the wind continues....
8 lingus 320's and a CSA 737 apparently

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