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I believe CO are looking at introducing a 767 next Summer on the BFS-EWR route. Most flights seem to have been full during this Summer, so a larger A/C would more suitable than extra rotations.
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The 762 would only get you some extra cargo space and a few more
business seats and the 764.......well no chance, as I would expect
Manchester would be near the top of the list if there are any available.
Also you do not want the same as what happened at BHX when it went double daily - went from reasonably profitable to one of CO's top ten Int. loss making routes per some info posted on another forum.
Alright you can't believe everything you read but it was a pretty
convincing post and from a reliable source, if not a little naughty.
I notice that they didn't post the top ten most profitable Int routes
Perhaps 10 a week, it certainly got the pax and out performed BHX-EWR numbers wise during some months in spring.
Peter
business seats and the 764.......well no chance, as I would expect
Manchester would be near the top of the list if there are any available.
Also you do not want the same as what happened at BHX when it went double daily - went from reasonably profitable to one of CO's top ten Int. loss making routes per some info posted on another forum.
Alright you can't believe everything you read but it was a pretty
convincing post and from a reliable source, if not a little naughty.
I notice that they didn't post the top ten most profitable Int routes
Perhaps 10 a week, it certainly got the pax and out performed BHX-EWR numbers wise during some months in spring.
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Now Now boys I cant give away my sources but the routes are a comin,believe me.From what I have heard Boh and Mxp are defos and Lgw could go to 8 per day.Portugalia is a definate from May 2007 to Lisbon and Oporto on the EMB145.
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Portugalia is a definate from May 2007 to Lisbon and Oporto on the EMB145.
! I assume you refer to BFS? Perhaps BHD would be more appealing for a 145 operation? On the off-chance they upgraded to a Fokker 100 it would still be OK for BHD.
As far as EZY go, BOH and MXP would be no surprise.... no prizes there.
Still not convinced about these "five routes".....
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my local orange contact is also confused by these supposed 5 new routes as the base was recently briefed by the big boss to expect little in the next 12 months. That would only leave scope for a possible MAD or MXP using airbuses originating from those bases.
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Well how does that square with the press release issued under the name of Paul Cable on 29 Sept, when they announced the Krakow route? He also said Easy where looking forward to announcing more routes and higher frequencies in the coming weeks. Read the statement on the Bfs site.
True Blue
Well how does that square with the press release issued under the name of Paul Cable on 29 Sept, when they announced the Krakow route? He also said Easy where looking forward to announcing more routes and higher frequencies in the coming weeks. Read the statement on the Bfs site.
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The implication was that little of this has anything to do with the BFS based crews ie any expansion would be using machinery running in from other bases. The irony here is that Easyjet don't like doing that. Up until now W patterns have been frowned upon. I believe BFS does a W through STN. Perhaps that will be scrapped to make way for the Krakow. As its unlikely that Krakow will be running 7 days a week that may leave leave scope for increasing a frequency or 2.
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If ezy make the slightest increase on bfs-lgw then flybe are bound to go. before easyjet started lgw from bfs flybe had the route to themselves from bhd with around 6 or 7 flights on a weekday. when easyjet started with 3 flights on a weekday out of bfs, flybe axed 3 out of there 7 flights and to this day still have 4 out of bhd. a thing to notice as well, is that flybe were a bit too kind and basically stopped 3 of their flights .The flights they axed(I think it was the 0840, 1550, 1925 bhd-lgw rotations that went), were exactly the same flight timings that easyjet were about to start from bfs! It was as if flybe were actually going to LET them have rotations that they once flew.so all I can say to flybe is you try to help people and thats the thanks you get.
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all I can say to flybe is you try to help people and thats the thanks you get.
What a bizarre post....try to help??? Would that be the same assistance that Jersey/British European/Flybe were offering when they moved their Stansted up to BFS ...killed off Air Belfast(remember them?) and then moved BACK to the Harbour?,only to roll over and die the second Easy and Go appeared on the route?.The idea that they have some sort of "gentlemans agreement" is laughable...
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Alright maybe its not true then, just seemed a bit of a coincedence that ezy started flights at times which flybe once operated. Yea I do remember Air Belfast 1-11s to STN , they were bankrupt in 1996 weren't they? And then JY took all the 1-11s (previously owned by Air Belfast), returned to BHD only to be stuffed by GO. Brings me back! Anyway out with history, I think the FLYBE will FLYAWAY on BHD-LGW if ezy expand on the route
Alright maybe its not true then, just seemed a bit of a coincedence that ezy started flights at times which flybe once operated. Yea I do remember Air Belfast 1-11s to STN , they were bankrupt in 1996 weren't they? And then JY took all the 1-11s (previously owned by Air Belfast), returned to BHD only to be stuffed by GO. Brings me back! Anyway out with history, I think the FLYBE will FLYAWAY on BHD-LGW if ezy expand on the route
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Tough for Flybe! I remember Air belfast well, used them a lot and also Flybe taking action to put them off the route. Live by the sword, die by the sword comes to mind!
Can't help but think and it is my personal opinion, have Flybe bitten off too much with this purchase of bacon? I think it will be very difficult to merge 2 very different cultures. It isn't the first time where a purchase like this has ruined the whole operation.
Also, does it not put Bhd in a difficult position, I bet 90%+ of their income now will come from Flybe. In any business, that situstion is not good.
True Blue
Tough for Flybe! I remember Air belfast well, used them a lot and also Flybe taking action to put them off the route. Live by the sword, die by the sword comes to mind!
Can't help but think and it is my personal opinion, have Flybe bitten off too much with this purchase of bacon? I think it will be very difficult to merge 2 very different cultures. It isn't the first time where a purchase like this has ruined the whole operation.
Also, does it not put Bhd in a difficult position, I bet 90%+ of their income now will come from Flybe. In any business, that situstion is not good.
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BFS has many income streams of which EZY comprises no more than 30%. As the City airport is destined to remain a small runway/limited operating hours marginal airport then BFS has nothing to worry about business wise.
The 10 minute difference in driving times between (say) City Hall and the BHD or BFS check in desks is not enough to turn BHD's handicaps into an advantage.
AP
The 10 minute difference in driving times between (say) City Hall and the BHD or BFS check in desks is not enough to turn BHD's handicaps into an advantage.
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From April on the Milan-Belfast route start Jet2 with BGY-BFS 4x week. Now Easyjet seems would start MXP-BFS maybe daily.
There is enough space for two LCC on this thin route?
There is enough space for two LCC on this thin route?
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Just a laymans view, butif the bacon merger happens, Bhd will have Flybe and BD as any major sources of income. 4 smaller operators form the remainder of income from ops. The Easy % is falling, I think, the Flybe % isn't. What do you think?
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Re 767 at BFS!
Manchester and Dublin are first in line for a 767. But thats conditional on them not opening a new route that is dependent on the range of a 767! As much as BFS has great loads, it is only starting to make money. 10 weekly 757 may happen!
Manchester and Dublin are first in line for a 767. But thats conditional on them not opening a new route that is dependent on the range of a 767! As much as BFS has great loads, it is only starting to make money. 10 weekly 757 may happen!