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Old 8th Nov 2006, 12:45
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surely the charging for online check-in will put people off using it altogether and hinder ryanair's ultimate goal of almost no check-in staff. besides most single travellers dont care where they're sitting on the plane as long as they're on it
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Originally Posted by en2r
Just tried to book a flight. The new baggage policy means that online check-in is compulsory if you travel with only hand baggage, so basically they are putting an extra charge of £2/€3 per segment if you travel with only hand luggage. If you don't check in online you will still have to pay for it! This is ridiculous. So much for the low fares airline
Wow. I didn't believe you, but have just been through a dummy return booking and you're right.

No bags = compulsory priority boarding for £4
1 or more bags £7 each, web-checkin and priority boarding not mentioned

It's not clear whether web-checkin itself is compulsory for hand-baggage travellers, or whether you are allowed to pay the extra charge and then choose to check in at the counter. And indeed whether this would garner you PB.

If it is true, then it's very disappointing. Additional charges (such as checked baggage etc) are one thing if they are optional. When they are unavoidable, they really should be included in the fare.
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Old 8th Nov 2006, 14:05
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Originally Posted by mad_rich
It's not clear whether web-checkin itself is compulsory for hand-baggage travellers, or whether you are allowed to pay the extra charge and then choose to check in at the counter. And indeed whether this would garner you PB.

If it is true, then it's very disappointing. Additional charges (such as checked baggage etc) are one thing if they are optional. When they are unavoidable, they really should be included in the fare.
If you select to travel with no bags, a piece of text appears below. This allows you to remove web-check-in and removes the charges if you click on it.

It's a bit of a mess that appears to be trying to dupe people into paying unnecessary charges though.
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Old 8th Nov 2006, 14:06
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I booked a flight yesterday and I was able to opt out of online check in by clicking on a link under the resvervation. It is not immediately obvious but I did it..
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Old 8th Nov 2006, 17:44
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Originally Posted by anna_list
@cesare:
HHN-VRN was reduced to 4x weekly back in September. At the same time, HHN-GOA was announced (3x weekly), so it looks as though the capacity has already been reallocated.
Yes, but HHN-GOA start in February.
For me is not this the route to replace the reduced frequency of HHN-VRN. For instance what will do the plane based at HHN from now to february?

Originally Posted by anna_list
Don't you think that it's a little bit early to condemn a route as being a 'disaster' when it has only been running for a week or two at one of the weakest times of year?
HHN-VRN originally was annonced and put on sale as a daily route.
One mounth before of the first flight will be reduced to 4x week, for me due to the negative advanced booking.
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Old 8th Nov 2006, 17:51
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Originally Posted by Devonair
I booked a flight yesterday and I was able to opt out of online check in by clicking on a link under the resvervation. It is not immediately obvious but I did it..
Yes, is the same as travel insurance. For default is an option preselected, but you can remove it.
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 17:30
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Has all the Ryanair money gone on the Aer Lingus bid?

Ryanair pilots are now having their November duty payments by the company delayed. The reason "no one available to sign the cheques". But surely the cheques are signature stamped. Has the genius blown all the stash on trying to buy Aer lingus.
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 18:38
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Grrr

I wish I could find that funny Dids, but frankly I find it more frightening than funny.
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 22:08
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Dealing in: ………..Aer Lingus Group Plc…………….………..(name of company)



Class of security: …Ordinary Shares…………………………………………………



Date of disclosure: 09 November 2006………………………………………………



Date of dealing: …...08 November 2006………..……………………………….........



Name of EMM: …… Morgan Stanley Securities Limited …………………………….



Name of offeree/offeror with whom connected: … Ryanair Holdings Plc ………..







Total number of securities purchased: …316,010 …….…………………..……..



Highest price paid * …2.84 EUR…….………………..………



Lowest price paid * …2.83 EUR….………….…..…….....….

This is what FR did with their money today.
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 22:49
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< € 900'000.-

All those shares for less than €900'000.-

If Ryan doesn't have that in the kitty or available on credit - they deserve to go belly up - get real guys - that's close to the coffee money on a Ryan cash flow.

You can check that if you calculate the No. of staff and the av. pay .... and multiply that up. Or again take the number of tonnes of fuel burnt per day times the current price, on average.

Would be interesting if anybody has those or could logically extrapolate them... because those are known %'s of full turnover are they not?

gofor it.
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 02:34
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Originally Posted by Bearcat
Dealing in: ………..Aer Lingus Group Plc…………….………..(name of company)
Class of security: …Ordinary Shares…………………………………………………
Date of disclosure: 09 November 2006………………………………………………
Date of dealing: …...08 November 2006………..……………………………….........
Name of EMM: …… Morgan Stanley Securities Limited …………………………….
Name of offeree/offeror with whom connected: … Ryanair Holdings Plc ………..
Total number of securities purchased: …316,010 …….…………………..……..
Highest price paid * …2.84 EUR…….………………..………
Lowest price paid * …2.83 EUR….………….…..…….....….
This is what FR did with their money today.
That would be illegal Bearcat as they cannot buy over the takeover bid price.

Probably some FR pilots getting him back.

BTW Grim Repa you might like to know that non-payment of wages or any part thereof ( inc allowances etc. ) is an offence in Ireland. Only computer errors are accepted as an excuse.
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 04:49
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Many many years ago in Australia, the Bond Corporation (run by Alan Bond) made a takeover bid for Tiny Rowlands Lonhro Corporation in London.

Lonhros defence was to get some good forensic accountants to have a good look at the Bond Corporation. What they found was not encouraging, they briefed market analysts and suchlike on the results.

The bid collapsed.

Then Bond bid for the Bell Group, whose founder had just died of a heart attack. Bell was cashed up to the tune of a billion dollars, Bond was successful in gaining control of the company and the cash disappeared.

Bond and some of his fellow Directors spent some time as guests of Her Majesty as a result. It's not the first time that a weak or over extended company tried to buy a fatter competitor to devour.

Does this apply to Ryanair? I don't know.
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 10:33
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Fella's, I know this thread is tongue in cheek (or at least it should be), but a few thoughts:
  • Ryanair is cash rich.
  • Banks would be falling over themselves to lend it money.
  • Just because someone comes on the forum and suggests money has been with-held (because a cheque signatory was not available) does not make it true.
  • The purchase of the Aer Lingus shares will most likely result in a very handsome profit for Ryanair shareholders.
  • I reckon Aer Lingus is still good value at this price. If MOL is serious, he has yet to add the premium (my personal view).

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Old 10th Nov 2006, 10:51
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Just because someone comes on the forum and suggests money has been with-held (because a cheque signatory was not available) does not make it true.
You are wrong, and it is a little arrogant of you to say as much when you are not even a Ryanair employee. It is true. Ryanair employees can now add late wage payments to their list of grievances against their employer. For your information, the following appeared on the Ryanair staff website:

Sectors Cheques

To all Pilots, Just to inform you that the sector cheques will not arrive until the 13th of November as all signatories are at the road show from Mon Fri of this week. Thanks (Name Witheld)
That would be 3 days late, and usually more by the time they reach the European mainland bases.
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 10:53
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
Many many years ago in Australia, the Bond Corporation (run by Alan Bond) made a takeover bid for Tiny Rowlands Lonhro Corporation in London.
Lonhros defence was to get some good forensic accountants to have a good look at the Bond Corporation. What they found was not encouraging, they briefed market analysts and suchlike on the results.
The bid collapsed.
Then Bond bid for the Bell Group, whose founder had just died of a heart attack. Bell was cashed up to the tune of a billion dollars, Bond was successful in gaining control of the company and the cash disappeared.
Bond and some of his fellow Directors spent some time as guests of Her Majesty as a result. It's not the first time that a weak or over extended company tried to buy a fatter competitor to devour.
Does this apply to Ryanair? I don't know.
What on earth has that got to do with this bid? Bond's actions were to support an ailing business empire, with massive debts to its name. Ryanair is a successful and highly profitable publically-owned company. Morals and ethics of employees' treatment aside, there is little to compare between the two.

Here is an example of another ridiculous insinuation:

Robert Maxwell stole millions from the company pension scheme, therefore as Ryanair has a pension scheme, Mr O'Leary might be a crook.

See how ridiculous that sounds?
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 11:21
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Carmoisine, it is anything but arrogant for me to suggest that just because something appears on PPRuNe that it might not be true. It is a statement of fact. And one of the few ones you can be sure is true on this forum.

As I said initially, the thread is tongue in cheek (I mean, "Has all the Ryanair money gone on the Aer Lingus bid?).

You need to be a little less sensitve. Or has PPRuNe become the exclusive domain of the Ryanair disgruntled employee windbags?

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Old 10th Nov 2006, 11:38
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Fair enough Wombat, I did bite a little too hard. It is sensitive to me though, to be paid late and then have people suggest that I have not.

Windbag? Moi !? , never.
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 14:51
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Cool

Sector cheques did arrive on time today ( 10th ).
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 18:19
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Lies,Lies,Damned lies

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...keover+by.html
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Old 10th Nov 2006, 19:34
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Grrr

Paid on time, or as usual 10 days late depending on whether you see the glass half full, or half empty. The power of PPRuNe / REPA , or an attack of conscience / common sense / read of the relevant legislation on their part ? You decide.
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