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Old 6th Oct 2006, 16:55
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Is it still GSM's intention to do an ABZ-AGP route, or have they dropped that idea for now?

I see TFS will be a Fri, 0700 Dept from ABZ, so appears the ABZ-based a/c will take over the duties in S07 from the TFS-based one.
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 22:47
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www.jethros.i12.com now showing the 757s being sourced from XLA. (the ex-Eastern Airlines ones)

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Old 9th Oct 2006, 01:26
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21 years old, 74th and 75th built? I thought they were looking to source some that maybe weren't so... long in the tooth?
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 08:39
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Could be wrong, but I didn't think they were ER models, so that could be a challenge for GSM's new transatlantic routes!
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 11:28
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could these old birds be reliable enough to cope with daily scheduled transatlantic hops ?
GSM are a very punctual airline albeit quite a small airline (by aircraft numbers) at the moment, I suspect adding old birds like this might cause a little deviation of their flightpath a little. ( maybe they are short leases due to the recent re-birth in the 757 with added winglets and aircraft in short supply )
does anyone know the reliability and state of the cabins in these birds ?

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Old 12th Oct 2006, 20:57
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Hi Guys,

Understand the 737 mob are on 62,000 PA and the 767 guys are on 75,000 is there a third payscale for 757 guys and are they considering non type rated people for direct entry on the 757 (will the CAA even allow this)?
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Old 13th Oct 2006, 18:07
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Does anyone know why the BGI & LAS flights have been dropped, they are no longer avail for sale on the website.
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Old 13th Oct 2006, 20:13
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According to another aviation website, the BGI and LAS have been dropped due to dissapointing interest.
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Old 13th Oct 2006, 20:25
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If this is true, I think they would have been better off trying the route from STN.
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Old 13th Oct 2006, 20:45
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Maybe if they had offered accomodation with the flights then these routes would have been more appealing.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 13:47
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I understandfrom what I have heard in meeting as MAN, that GSM are looking to serve 2 west coast USA destinations from MAN next year. Anyone know anymore? Presumably SFO and LAX are the cities in question?

If I were in charge at GSM, I'd be looking at the following routes from MAN:

Lagos (loads of profit to be made here)

Athens (no low-cost option from the north to Greece at present)

Hong Kong (get in there before CX ever do)

Bangkok (again, get in there before Thai)
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 14:23
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Yes I agree, but the same could be said for Stansted, as the airport is the 3rd larges uk airport and still has no longhaul US flights, that is apart from Maxjet and Eos airlines, I am very suprised that no other airline has jumped on the fact that there is a huge untapped market for longhaul out of STN.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 16:48
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Originally Posted by gayrugbybloke View Post
If I were in charge at GSM, I'd be looking at the following routes from MAN:
Lagos (loads of profit to be made here)
Is there any demand for MAN to Lagos?
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 17:18
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STN

Just a quick point STN is UKs fourth largest airport in terms of passengers Manchester is 3rd
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 17:31
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Are you sure about that? thought it changed to STN this year,
I might be wrong but I dont think so.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 18:30
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Surely the point isnt whether Stansted or Manchester are the third largest in passenger terms.

More relevant is that there are west coast services from London Airports already but there aren't from the North. This may be more importnat in GSM's deliberations.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 18:56
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Daz is right on two counts

1. STN is now doing 1.3m pa more pax than MAN so is 3rd busiest in UK for pax but with a lot less air transport movements. Good use of a single runway.

2. STN needs long haul and there definitely a market whether it be Maxjet/Eos product or other and also spare runway/terminal capacity to provide it. LGW and LHR are not the only option, particularly as STN has catchment area further to the north.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 19:02
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airhumberside - yes there probably is a market for MAN - LOS now.

pwalhx - the currrent sticking point for MAN - West Coast direct services is that AA, DL, CO, BD/UA, US (and soon possibly NW) are all already here trying to get the passengers. GSM might work, but at more of a charter frequency.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 20:04
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I just think with STN being the 3rd largest uk airport in pax numbers, that the low cost airlines would be a great feeder for none all business class airlines of which there are none to the USA, when CO were at STN their flights were always full the route was only pulled after Sep 11th.
I am very suprised that no major US carrier has moved in on this missing market at STN.

Dont think im knocking MAXJET or EOS, STN just need some lower priced Transatlantic carriers and an OZ flight wouldnt go amiss.

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I see from the website that STN-ATH has only one day left that is bookable (27oct) STN-ATH (28oct) ATN-STN, can anyone tell me
if this route will be replaced with another route?
Looks like GSM have just left STN with toronto and tenerife.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 14:27
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Looks like the Timetable for W06 is getting finalised just now at such as late stage.

No longer going to be a TFS-based A/C - all flights from MME and EDI will operate via GLA.

The LPL/STN flight to TFS will operate LPL-STN-TFS-STN-LPL until New Year.

No longer BGI and LAS flights from GLA for W06.

BCN continues throughout W06 from EDI 2 weekly, operaing Thurs/Sun.
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