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Just noticed that as from 1 May 2007 Flyglobespan is renaming John C Munro International Airport, Hamilton, Ontario as Toronto (Hamilton)
This adds a sixth airport to Toronto, they already have
Toronto Pearson
Toronto City Centre (The Island)
Toronto Buttonville
Toronto Brampton
Toronto Downsview
This looks like Flyglobespan trying to outRyanair Ryanair, John C Munro is 75 km from downtown Toronto
Hamilton has a great airport, no queues, easy parking, good access, and some great based aircraft, I use it whenever possible, but it aint Toronto and never will be.
Hen Ddraig
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This adds a sixth airport to Toronto, they already have
Toronto Pearson
Toronto City Centre (The Island)
Toronto Buttonville
Toronto Brampton
Toronto Downsview
This looks like Flyglobespan trying to outRyanair Ryanair, John C Munro is 75 km from downtown Toronto
Hamilton has a great airport, no queues, easy parking, good access, and some great based aircraft, I use it whenever possible, but it aint Toronto and never will be.
Hen Ddraig
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I've flown into Toronto Pearson many times from Heathrow and once from Glasgow International. From disembarking the aircraft to being outside the terminal building usually takes me about one hour with the majority of the time spent waiting on my luggage. I agree with you in that Hamilton Airport is not Toronto, however, the difference in time it takes to get from Hamilton (as opposed to Pearson) to Toronto should be partially offset by the fact thatit is a much smaller airport and shouldn't take around an hour to get out of it. It will also be more convenient for those travelling to Burlington, Hamilton and the Niagara region.
I've flown into Toronto Pearson many times from Heathrow and once from Glasgow International. From disembarking the aircraft to being outside the terminal building usually takes me about one hour with the majority of the time spent waiting on my luggage. I agree with you in that Hamilton Airport is not Toronto, however, the difference in time it takes to get from Hamilton (as opposed to Pearson) to Toronto should be partially offset by the fact thatit is a much smaller airport and shouldn't take around an hour to get out of it. It will also be more convenient for those travelling to Burlington, Hamilton and the Niagara region.
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My point was simply that airlines should not geographically describe airports as places which they are not. Hamilton is not Toronto.
I recently had a shock experience at Toronto Pearson, I was out of the terminal in 45min from an international flight.
My record at Hamilton is 12 min from aircraft door open to driving along highway 6, admittedly from an internal flight but including collecting checked baggage. Home to Burlington in a further 20 mins.
Hen Ddraig
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I recently had a shock experience at Toronto Pearson, I was out of the terminal in 45min from an international flight.
My record at Hamilton is 12 min from aircraft door open to driving along highway 6, admittedly from an internal flight but including collecting checked baggage. Home to Burlington in a further 20 mins.
Hen Ddraig
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I have no problem with any airlines advertising flights to any airport, that are close enough for me to get to the city of choice, I am not that thick to think Hamelton is Toronto but it gives you a clue of the geographical
area into which you will land what is the problem ?
when I book a flight I look to see where im going to fly to, so calling it Toronto (Hamelton) gives you a clue that it is in easy reach of Toronto
nothing more nothing less.
area into which you will land what is the problem ?
when I book a flight I look to see where im going to fly to, so calling it Toronto (Hamelton) gives you a clue that it is in easy reach of Toronto
nothing more nothing less.
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Flyglobespan passenger seating and amenities thread moved here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=250348
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So why not rename Southhampton London (Southampton) then?
because it's not a London airport!
Hamilton is not Toronto it's a city in its own right. and p.s getting to the airport is a pain with no direct motorway link you have to drive through part of the city stop lights and all.
One good thing is the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum
because it's not a London airport!
Hamilton is not Toronto it's a city in its own right. and p.s getting to the airport is a pain with no direct motorway link you have to drive through part of the city stop lights and all.
One good thing is the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum
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Getting to and from Pearson can be an even bigger pain! Anytime I've driven to Hamilton Airport the only traffic lights I've encountered are in Burlington - you don't have to drive through Hamilton to get to Hamilton Airport! At least at Hamilton Airport it doesn't take me nearly an hour from getting off the plane to getting into the car. Most people from the UK won't know where Hamilton Airport is so if Flyglobespan decide to call it Toronto Hamilton Airport then at least people will know that it's fairly near Toronto.
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Why can't BHX have a real LOCO like Flyglobespan?
Having seen what BMIBaby are planning at BHX we need a real LOCO with new ideas routes at BHX maybe we would get some decent routes with a real chance of success? Good luck to Flyglobespan they seem to be the innovators in the UK regions at the moment.
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James ,
done the drive many times, either the QEW x the Burlington Bridge and go up via Stony Creek (real pain) or QEW/427 403 , up the mountain, exit the motorway(following the signs) Lincon Alexander Pkwy(411) then go via commercial/ residential sub road (another pain), maybe the only way you miss lights is via Brantford. Point being it's Hamilton Not Toronto so don't call it Toronto.
done the drive many times, either the QEW x the Burlington Bridge and go up via Stony Creek (real pain) or QEW/427 403 , up the mountain, exit the motorway(following the signs) Lincon Alexander Pkwy(411) then go via commercial/ residential sub road (another pain), maybe the only way you miss lights is via Brantford. Point being it's Hamilton Not Toronto so don't call it Toronto.
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You can now exit the 403 onto highway 6 south and it takes you right past the front of Hamilton International and Canadian Warplane Heritage. I Don't remember any lights on the new section.
Hen Ddraig
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Hen Ddraig
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767 at Liverpool today on a training run had a slight mishap with one of the rear "escape shutes" being accidently set off resulting in very red faces among crew onboard
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MAN-CPT Flights
Sales look quite good:
ECONOMY
Flights sold out until 13th Nov 06
PREMIUM
1 seat left Sat 4th Nov 06
BUSINESS
Flights sold out until 13 Nov 06
Hopefully CPT will prove a success.
ECONOMY
Flights sold out until 13th Nov 06
PREMIUM
1 seat left Sat 4th Nov 06
BUSINESS
Flights sold out until 13 Nov 06
Hopefully CPT will prove a success.
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Are GSM likely to continue the MAN CPT route after the end of the winter scheds? I think the real money spnner would be Jo'burg personally, but see how they go with CPT first.Hope it isn't another AV8 venture!
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how can sold out flights be a success?? are you guys not yield managing?? sold out flights are a success for your competitor who can now charge whatever they want!!
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how can sold out flights be a success?? are you guys not yield managing?? sold out flights are a success for your competitor who can now charge whatever they want!!
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No offence Sanjo, but do you know how much the revenue was for the flight? I don't either, but I assume that as the business class was sold out and these flights were selling for around £400 each way, I'd imagine, without further evidence, these flights are successful. Its mainly the business and cargo that makes the route profitable, with ECO/PREM covering costs.
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no offense taken...
but consider this... say out of an aircraft with 220 seats... is it better to sell
1. 220 seats for £400? or
2. charge more and sell 200 seats for £450?
plus you dont send customers away to your competitors... you do the maths and let me know...
whatever revenue you achieve on a full flight, the message is you could have charged more and not sell out.
but consider this... say out of an aircraft with 220 seats... is it better to sell
1. 220 seats for £400? or
2. charge more and sell 200 seats for £450?
plus you dont send customers away to your competitors... you do the maths and let me know...
whatever revenue you achieve on a full flight, the message is you could have charged more and not sell out.
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Seems odd that GSM close a lfight for reservations on their website as soon as it becomes 'full'. Makes it look like they are not operating on that date, and besides, what;s the harm in overbooking a flight? No-shows are sure to happen, even to GSM!