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[daz211]

Sorry no Ryanair MAD route for NCL or LTN or STN

[transwede]

Anyone know when Jet2 are going to release their full programme for sale? Seems that routes to BGO, AMS, ORK and TFS are not on sale yet for summer 07. Lots of gaps in aircraft rotations, obviously some to be filled by existing routes not yet on sale, but space for new ones too!

[skyman771]

Originally Posted by transwede

stand 9 is being fitted with an airbridge........ but surely if regular 747 ops were to start, portable stairs would make more sense, speeds up boarding of 400+ pax.

Absolutely & totally DISAGREE ! I do not see this at all, there is no logic to what you say. 747 Ops at most international airports are catered for with one or a matched pair type airbridge where basically one is used exclusively for First & business & other for everyone else. The volume catered for by the first/business is incidental in terms of volume & access & so invariably boarding is effectively by one airbridge. Slow access issues are exacerbated by mobs climbing up staircases trying to access a single isle from opposing directions & vice versa on descending such on diembarkation. Neither of these problems are encountered with a 747 & an appropriate airbridge.
Also you have not even dealt with the additional security issues of pax on tarmac.

[transwede]

I see your point skyman771 but it is only a single tier airbridge that is being constructed at NCL, so I believe. So it will mean 400+ pax accessing the aircraft using one door!! Monarch A330's currently use 2 sets of steps and it works quite well.

On a similar note, handling agents at NCL will have to acquire more steps and tugs etc will all this extra work.

What plan is the Jet2 757 doing next summer?

[CentreFix25]

TF-ELY has now left the Air Atlanta/Excel fleet, whats doing its flying at the minute?

[irishcc]

Excel have replaced the TF registered 737-400 with their own G reg 737-800.

[Jamesair]

The summer 2007 timetable for Excel seems to cover a 3 a/c operation but there are a lot of gaps to be filled most days.

Bournemouth seems to be the only UK airport to benefit from Ryanair's Madrid route announcement.

[transwede]

As far as I am aware, XLA will have basically the same operation as this year, i.e 2 based aircraft, though they will be two of excel's own aircraft - 737-800's. As with most charter companies there will be some timing changes etc but at the minute it looks a bit like this.

Aircraft 1

Mon - DLM 0700/0045 W to BFS
Tue - PMI 0600/1240
CHQ 1350/0015
Wed - RHO 0700/1720
Thu - FAO 0850/1650
ALC 1830/0115
Fri - DLM 0700/1655
CFU 1900/0310
Sat - PMI 0500/1135
ALC 1340/2025
RHO 2210/0825
Sun - ZTH 1110/2000

Aircraft 2

Mon - FNC 0700/1625
MAH 1725/2350
Tue - JTR 0635/1640
TFS 1740/0410
Wed - PFO 1430/0105
Thu - ZTH 0700/1550
Fri - JSI/KVA 0900/1900
IBZ 2030/0310
Sat - VRN 0725/2150 W to BFS
Sun - KLX 0530/0035 W to ???

Few flights been added and a few things changed from this year, but all in all roughly the same. Space for a few shorter flights to be added. Hopefully with 2 737-800 a/c all will run smoothly again for XLA at NCL.

Lets not forget that a portion of XL's programme is operated by Flyjet.

[transwede]

Could we see Jet2 to Madrid? A few gaps in their programme so far, and they are operating their regional bases to optimum potential, i.e operating routes on less than daily frequency as the markets are smaller from NCL, LBA etc than say MAN.

[skyman771]

What is this obsessive attitude towards a Madrid service ? true it would be nice addition to the NCL routes on offer & I may be amongst the punters who would hop over for a 'city break', but then there are numerous interesting cities in Spain

[transwede]

Just thought it was about time for a review of things to come at NCL, mostly starting next year and for Summer 07.

Ryanair

New service to GRO for Barcelona, in addition to DUB, BGY and TRF flights. Still possibility of more from Ryanair.

Jet2

New routes to LEI, VLC, AGP and PMI. PSA, MAH will return for summer, BGO, AMS, ORK, KRK, MJV to continue aswell as TFS. 3 based aircraft, 2 737, 1 757and 4th a/c nightstopping away but flying out of NCL.

Thomsonfly

3 based aircraft, 2 757, 1 737 and new routes to SKG and LXR. Thomsonfly, nor Thomson Holidays will be offering services from NCL to Lanzarote for summer 07.

Excel Airways

2 737-800 aircraft based, with similar programme, though couple of extra flights added.

Thomas Cook

YYZ service on 757 with 189 seats, otherwise same programme as this year.

MyTravel

Short early summer series of flights to SFB and AGA.

Others

• Similar programme from Easyjet, with NCE returning for summer. No service to BUD or SXF and increased frequency on domestic routes
• New Globespan service to Toronto Hamilton using flyglobespan 757 aircraft

As ever, its still only october and plenty of time for new stuff to be announced. Many airlines and charter companies have not yet finalised operations for next summer. NCL surely will have pax numbers well above previous years. Even this year seems to have had a substantial increase!

skyman771 I think the reason people keep harping on about a NCL-MAD service is that MAD is the only large spanish market not yet served from NCL. If you looked at a map, with the exception of northern spain, i.e Bilbao then the spanish route structure from NCL is pretty well captured by EZY, LS, FR, TOM and the charters with the exception of MAD. ideal city break location, as well as access point for South America.

[HH6702]

Bilbao

before gofly was bought by easyjet they were going to start servcies to Nice and Bilbao. Nice has started but bilbao never did.

Bilbao was big for incoming pax not outbound.
Same maybe for MAD

[BALLSOUT]

In todays Journal, (north east local rag) RYR are advertising DUB, GRO and London (STN)
Does this mean they are going head to head with easy?

[10 DME ARC]

Looks like they are using same advert as would be used in Blackpool area?

[HH6702]

FR to STN !! excellent if this happens

come on easyjet start fighting back!!

[skyman771]

It will all end in tears To my knowledge EZY can't fill A319 / 737.700 even over holiday periods & lower fares than GNER, so where does this 738 fit in the profile

[transwede]

Can't see FR going head to head with Easy on the STN route. It does seem that all the other loco airlines are trying to become NCL's biggest loco airline, trying to overtake easyjet. Both Jet2 and Thomsonfly are advertising in local media as 'Newcastles low fares airline' or similar slogan.

Austrian Airlines have made a late addition to winter charter programme:

AUA9723/4 SZG-NCL-SZG STA 1540 STD 1630 A320 Saturdays

However, NCL has lost its charter link with Lyons, Thomsonfly will replace BA on the GVA run.

[JKP505]

I was speaking to a friend on Sunday, she told me that EZY will not be doing SXF, BUD, NCE, CIA at all next year, as they are going to redeploy aircraft. Not too sure how knowledgable my source is, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[crewboi83]

Had heard a rumour other day that Easy could pulling out of Newcastle all together. I know its a bit far fetched but as they are dropping lots of routes could it be in the pipeline??

[BIG E]

Unlikely EZY will pull out of NCL.The reason behind pulling routes is purely seasonal,why operate at a loss? The NCL-STN does well for EZY,If anything i'd expect a RYR NCL-LTN service....