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(other new destinations for 2007 are Venice, Toronto, Sao Paulo and Houston).
Which airlines are doing the other destinations? Houston is a new one on me.
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Great news if true & consistent with other happenings, but would seem that someone has 'jumped the gun' I do hope that there wasn't an intermediary taxi driver involved anywhere. I would imagine that there will be some back in Dubai & NCL ? that may not wish their hands to be forced re this.
Join Date: May 2004
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Ncl - Lgw
Ops Guy - The reason BA has cancelled the NCL-LGW is simple. It didn't make money - in fact it lost quite a bit. I've been on the 1st flight of the day to LGW quite regularly - it wasn't full and there weren't many business people on it - that means not enough revenue. This should in theory be the profitable flight. The 2nd to LGW is a poor time - too late for business traffic and too late for the BA LGW longhaul connections. It is the return of the first flight North, which again is a poor time - too early for connections off BA inbound longhauls.
The problem with this route is it lacked frequency to make it realistic and the market isn't big enough for more frequent jet operations with 737s.
This route would be best served with more frequency using either props (ATR or Dash) or small regional jets. Unfortunately BA doesn't have the right fleet at LGW for this.
CB
The problem with this route is it lacked frequency to make it realistic and the market isn't big enough for more frequent jet operations with 737s.
This route would be best served with more frequency using either props (ATR or Dash) or small regional jets. Unfortunately BA doesn't have the right fleet at LGW for this.
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Flyjet will use the B767 from thursday for a couple of days out of Newcastle. Departing Manchester at 10:30am arriving between 11am and 11:30am thursday into NCL to operate the afternoon Arrecife flight, then staying to opearte Tenerife-South and Las Palmas.
Great news for Flyjet
Great news for Flyjet
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Well there isn't really a lot of choice IF it comes off it will doubtless be an A330.200. Such a service for NCL would in my view probably be as significant as that of one Stateside. These days the developing markets are out East & Emirates with some smart promotion would be in an excellent position to offer the 'one stop' solution that has to date been denied the North East traveller. Additionally to provide a service where one is able to avoid transiting LHR T1 or T3 these days with their disgusting & inadequate facilities then this is a ' no brainer', though note LHR has some excellent executive lounges (particularly T4). I for one will be the first to wish them good luck in their venture. But as they say 'it's not over until the fat lady sings' and so like everyone else I'm still awaiting confirmation.
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Yes ! but what you omit to state is that at a similar time the first BA LHR departs, and that is often met with total chaos at the checkin & full flights. I take your note about the lack of business travellers, I have however noticed this of late also on the LHR. But then we will never get back to the golden days on the early morning Britannia's & Tridents in the early 70's when from experience the LHR flight was usually around 90% business occupancy.
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OK, I now have the information from the same source that the aircraft for Emirates will be an Airbus A330-200H. "H" is the internal designator for the high density layout, i.e. without first class.
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If BA are to pull LGW and a LOCO operator is the only possibility for this route lets hope its someome a bit more reliable like Jet2 or possibly FLYBE.
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Excelent news if it happens.
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I am very disappointed in BA for letting LGW go. It has so much potential and isn't a route that that have exactly pushed or done much in the way of advertising.
I do believe though someone will pick it up, especially with the number of pax it was generating. Jet2, EZY or BE would all be prime examples and with a little advertising would probably do very well. I have no doubt that this route could be made to work with the right advertising and fare structure.
To note other comments, biz pax on domestic routes are rare nowadays. Not five years ago by company were prepared to pay around £300 return for a day flight. This is no longer the case, they have financial pressures on travel budgets and it is cheaper and more cost effective to send people on the train, where they can work all the way using wifi etc - something the airlines have not yet got away round.
I do believe though someone will pick it up, especially with the number of pax it was generating. Jet2, EZY or BE would all be prime examples and with a little advertising would probably do very well. I have no doubt that this route could be made to work with the right advertising and fare structure.
To note other comments, biz pax on domestic routes are rare nowadays. Not five years ago by company were prepared to pay around £300 return for a day flight. This is no longer the case, they have financial pressures on travel budgets and it is cheaper and more cost effective to send people on the train, where they can work all the way using wifi etc - something the airlines have not yet got away round.
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To note other comments, biz pax on domestic routes are rare nowadays. Not five years ago by company were prepared to pay around £300 return for a day flight. This is no longer the case, they have financial pressures on travel budgets and it is cheaper and more cost effective to send people on the train, where they can work all the way using wifi etc - something the airlines have not yet got away round.