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Old 26th Aug 2013, 11:11
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would it be more cost efective to fly one large plane rather than 3 smaller
ones
Pegasus only have the B737-800, so no larger alternative.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 14:01
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One flight is a tech stop and is actually headed to Ercan Cyprus ,one goes on to Gaziantep and the final flight is a terminator.

Unusually for a flexible fares airline they also hub via Istanbul East with connections throughout Turkey and into the Trans Caucuses ideal for oil/gas rigg workers (as opposed to salesmen !)
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 15:11
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Anyone know what the Turkish Air 737-800 was doing at Stansted this morning?
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 17:50
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Fenerbahçe v arsenal tomorrow players came in normal arrivals area with very noisy crowd waiting for them
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 19:42
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Gambia Bird 319 3G1600 due tomorrow at 05.30 from Banjul.
This was a Gatwick destination.
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 20:28
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Stanstedeye - Maybe it's a Titan B757 which is operating for Gambia Bird this week.
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 20:38
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Then why not to Gatwick as scheduled on the 3G website
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Old 31st Aug 2013, 07:37
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Then why not to Gatwick as scheduled on the 3G website
Because Titans base is STN, aircraft is positioning back after operating for them
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 08:08
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Anna Aero are questioning the future of Air Berlin at STN:

airberlin to launch Berlin services from London City Airport predicts anna.aero (or possibly Munich, Hamburg, Stuttgart) | anna.aero
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 09:22
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Apparently MAG are expected to announce a deal with Ryanair over landing charges at Stansted. Unfortunately, I don't know much else about it.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 14:18
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Ryanair to grow stansted traffic by 50% in 10 years

http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/ryana...al-at-Stansted

4 NEW ROUTES (BORDEAUX, DORTMUND, LISBON & RABAT)
43 BASED AIRCRAFT (UP FROM 37)
2,000 WEEKLY FLIGHTS (UP FROM 1,800)
14.5M PASSENGERS (UP FROM 13.2M)

And hopefully this just proves to all of you who think Stansted is a dead dog that you were wrong, and under new ownership, Stansted can now look forward to growing once again!
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 14:34
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And hopefully this just proves to all of you who think Stansted is a dead dog that you were wrong, and under new ownership, Stansted can now look forward to growing once again!
43 based aircraft in Stansted (up from 37)
This is just a return by Ryanair of the aircraft they removed until they got their own way. It's not a dead dog by any means, it's just going to have to raise revenue by other means as it's core base remains overwhelmingly at the cheaper end of the locos.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 15:03
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Ryanair have no choice but to stay at STN if they want to have a share on London traffic. No other airports in London for them.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 16:46
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True but not that simple. They would not be growing by over a million passengers next year at Stansted after the continued decline if MAG didn't give them an attractive reason to do so. And especially as aircraft will have to relocate from elsewhere because the new aircraft deliveries don't start until September 2014.

Ryanair to cut Stansted fares in drive to reach passenger targets | Irish Examiner

Announcing the deal with MAG at a London press conference, Mr O’Leary said charges were still “very high”.

He added: “We’ll be cutting some capacity at other airports for summer 2014 because there’s now incentive for us at Stansted to grow aggressively.

“Stansted’s already our biggest business but it’s about to get an awful lot bigger.”



Some other interesting quotes...

Mr O’Leary said it expected to grow passenger numbers by a million a year over the first seven years of the deal, but admitted that fares and margins will have to fall, and some services will have relocate from other airports.

Mr O’Leary also said Ryanair was working with the airport to help attract long-haul airlines.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 17:38
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This is just a return by Ryanair of the aircraft they removed until they got their own way. It's not a dead dog by any means, it's just going to have to raise revenue by other means as it's core base remains overwhelmingly at the cheaper end of the locos.
Many ways to negotiate............being direct and doing it is one.

Raise revenue by extra throughput is easier than by continually raising prices and pushing business away...........doubt there will be that much additional cost to increasing airport by a million.

Now if only Border Agency woke up and staffed the airport correctly it would be good. They are a shambles with inadequate staffing and a hostile attitude problem to passengers arriving.

Development of a family line for people with kids under age of 2 (none myself) would be a good idea.......amazingly that have seen it abroad where Pax push people with very young kids to the front as a matter of course.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 18:51
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Consequences of the Ryanair growth announcement:

Stansted becomes less attractive to new airlines due to the market strength of the dominant operator.

Ryanair represents an even larger proportion of STN's operations.

MAG are buying business - always a worrying strategy. They are obviously realizing they overpaid BAA.

As usual, Mr O'Leary is laughing all the way to the bank!
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 19:36
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Now if only Border Agency woke up and staffed the airport correctly it would be good. They are a shambles with inadequate staffing and a hostile attitude problem to passengers arriving.
Agreed but this is a consequence of the commercial imperative of the last wave arriving pretty much en masse, meaning the "staff" need to put their cuppas away, drop the crossword and get back to work, at midnight. I mean that's not a great job for anyone....
Welcome to London, sorry you've missed the last train, bus to Stratford anyone? Been there, done that....
LGS6753 is right, but you know what? I think it's all good, STN is getting back to where it was a few years back, drop the delusions of long haul and get back to doing what they do quite well. A Ryanair experience in a modern terminal building, that's pretty rare !

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 20:43
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Agreed but this is a consequence of the commercial imperative of the last wave arriving pretty much en masse, meaning the "staff" need to put their cuppas away, drop the crossword and get back to work, at midnight. I mean that's not a great job for anyone....
Sadly were it drop the cuppa and run to your desks then it would be ok. On more than one occasion late at night I counted half the booths unmanned.

I assummed Border Agency was a service rather than an a Govt anti visitor initiative.

I watched a B Agency official come out heading to where a mum had a crying baby in arms and toddler by the hand, thinking fair play he will bring her forward as queue had taken 35 minutes to get to there. Having travelled with kids its not fun in situations like this.

Moron got most upset about someone daring to have taken a photo and ignored the mum despite getting asked can he bring her forward because of baby / toddler by other passengers.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 20:48
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MAG are buying business - always a worrying strategy.
Depends whether you want it to be negative or not.....

IF your biggest customer is growing, you can grow as well, if you stifle their growth they will do it elsewhere and you won't.

Why P*** off your biggest customer when not required.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 21:30
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MAG Stansted cannot afford to upset Ryanair. This IS good news.

Yes it's not ideal that Ryanair will become increasingly dominant at Stansted. But at the end of the day, it's much needed growth, investment, employment and gives more choice to consumers.

Ryanair is really the only quick fix, or short-term solution to promptly address Stansted declines and MAG would be highly stupid to turn it down.

Thomas Cook will more than double seat capacity next year, but while that's only very little in terms of passenger numbers, it shows that other airlines are willing to commit to Stansted.

Let's remember MAG have only been here for six months. In that time they have got an £80m terminal development underway, introduced a new "meet and greet" parking option, won back Air Moldova from Gatwick, had Aegean Airlines for the peak summer period, signed a deal to allow growth with EasyJet, more than doubled Thomas Cook flights and now got themselves a major deal with Ryanair.

All things considered I think so far they have done tremendously well! So those of you being so dull, please take all the negativity elsewhere, as it is not welcomed here!!

And by the way LGS6753 - You are so predictable that it's laughable! Where is your enthusiasm or optimism? You must live a really miserable life to be so negative about GROWTH in an industry which you should, as a member on this forum, be passionate about!!

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