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Old 11th Apr 2017, 09:17
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Eastern fast trak is incredibly quick as there is no passengers wanting to fly with them anymore. I hear Lake is starting to panic now.

Treat your pax like scum and your staff like faeces. At the same time letting incompetent managers flourish and you deserve what you get.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 13:27
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Doubt any past pilots will agree to come back either. TOM has opened recruitment this week for non rated with very low requirements.
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Hear Hear James!
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 16:07
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Another round of flight crew recruitment will probably finish eastern off.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 16:37
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Panic set in a while back, Mr Bristow recognised that,hence all the redundancies and Base closures. The only thing that may save EA is an upturn in the oil market, and that's not going to happen in the near future.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 17:18
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I hope Eastern does survive but that's purely because it has seen Flybe off the LBA-ABZ and LBA-SOU routes in recent years. If Eastern should fail, I'd be amazed if Flybe gave these routes another crack.
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Old 12th Apr 2017, 07:56
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Eastern has set up and pulled out of SOU so many times that I wouldn't expect them there after the summer. Certainly wouldn't take the chance on a base change offer. They have tried via LBA and via LPL on the J41. Both times thin routes but viable on the J41 back in the day.
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Old 12th Apr 2017, 14:12
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The LBA-SOU potential is most certainly there with good numbers, especially since Flybe pulled off the route, I know that from experience, but Eastern have so expertly cocked it up on so many occasions, either due to constantly broken Saabs, crewing problems or operating it as a through-connection from ABZ, (meaning constant delays) that the pax have simply voted with their feet. Such a shame.
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Originally Posted by MAJP
Sorry, in French

Will base one aircraft in Rodez (France) to operate to Lyon, Milano and Southampton

Trois nouvelles destinations à partir de l?aéroport de Rodez | Journal de Millau
Does anyone know T3 have scrapped or have they just delayed the start of the 3 x weekly J41 service to LYS from RDZ that was mentioned in the article above. It's just they were planned to begin flight on the 13th March 2017.

Eastern Airways boosts Rodez link in S17 :: Routesonline
The 2 x weekly ER4 service between RDZ-MXP is still showing as operating to the dates shown.

Originally Posted by BKS Air Transport
Provides a very nice connection with Eastern's LBA flights at SOU, though their website is currently not allowing a through booking (though a leading travel website is).
The aircraft operating the Friday service is scheduled to operate LBA-SOU-RDZ-SOU-LBA-ABZ
and the Monday flight will operate ABZ-LBA-SOU-RDZ-SOU-LBA-ABZ.

T34700 LBA 06:50 - 07:55 SOU 08:20 - RDZ 10:50 5 S20
T34702 ABZ 08:20 - 09:30 LBA 09:55 - 11:10 SOU 11:30 - RDZ 14:00 1 S20

T34703 RDZ 11:20 - 11:50 SOU 12:20 - 13:25 LBA 13:50 - ABZ 14:55 5 S20
T34705 RDZ 14:45 - 15:15 SOU 15:45 - 17:00 LBA 17:25 - ABZ 18:35 1 S20

Flights are bookable LBA-RDZ via SOU. However no flights are available to book to ABZ

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Old 18th Apr 2017, 05:17
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They are pulling the Saab out of Leeds. Not sure if that's the reason.
I hear two more Saab captains have resigned so probably crew levels are getting critical.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 10:39
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There are an awful lot of job vacancies on the EA website.....doesn`t anyone want to join them any more?
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang5150
There are an awful lot of job vacancies on the EA website.....doesn`t anyone want to join them any more?
Clearly not
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 05:40
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Oh, why do you suppose that is, I thought they were a great company to work for, or am I missing something?
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 08:35
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haha good one Wolfie
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 18:07
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Back in the old days it was a nice company to work for. However, it was a much smaller outfit then.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 19:41
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That makes sense,I expect they didn't have as many ridiculously incompetent managers then.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 08:45
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In the past it was an ex RAF club who tell themselves and each other that they are management elite. The truth is that they are laughably poor leadersm team players and managers. With lines like;

If you dont like it you can f^ck off.
Im trying to create my own squadron.
We are the elite at everything.
Civilian pilots cannot think for themselves.

Im just glad there was never a war with them in the RAF. Wed be finished in hours.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 15:14
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Originally Posted by cabsav
In the past it was an ex RAF club who tell themselves and each other that they are management elite. The truth is that they are laughably poor leadersm team players and managers. With lines like;

If you dont like it you can f^ck off.
Im trying to create my own squadron.
We are the elite at everything.
Civilian pilots cannot think for themselves.

Im just glad there was never a war with them in the RAF. Wed be finished in hours.
Cabsav,
I'm going to bite as I do hear comments similar to yours from time to time. Please don't tar all ex-RAF with the same brush. Yes, there are a few ex-RAF that are utter throbbers. Any organisation, be it military or civilian, will always attract a few obnoxious individuals.

When I listen to people spouting comments akin to yours, I often find that they usually have a chip on their shoulder i.e. that they applied to the RAF but were unsuccessful. Is that you?

Just sayin,
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 00:06
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I'm definitely not a fan of Eastern but one thing they aren't is an ex-RAF club, neither is there any hint of that on the line. They have serious problems for sure but that isn't one of them.
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OK. Expecting this attack/defence/offence from no doubt ex RAF people.

Firstly. I am in no way an failed RAF applicant. In any way. Im not SPOUTING anything. These are facts.
They were most definitely an ex RAF club started by the ex CP. And let me prove that statement.
CP; EX RAF who them made every fleet manager an EX RAF person. Trainers and any internal positions, ex RAF whre possible. Most, not got the skills for the job.
Yes, there were a few (minority) who were good and decent people But that was natural ability, not their RAF taught qualities.
9 out of 10 people I work with in the airlines I have found have the same view of EX RAF. Meaning, a minority of great guys/girls. The rest woefully lacking in people skills and leadership. selfish and back stabbing. keeping a group of themselves in a club trying to further their own aims at the expense of others and the general good.
Please remember before criticising my comments. I am in Eastern and alot of us have experienced this.
Again, no chip at all. And my Eastern colleagues could confirm that what I am writing are the facts of the past and not wild opinion.
Again, there are shortcomings in management, teamwork and leadership abilities with most (NOT ALL) ex RAF. Some I've talked to agree that they have not been trained to a high standard in these areas.
And for nimrodhasbeem. I have been in the room when these statements have been made. No rumour or conjecture. Is that the attitude, skill set and management style of the RAF. If so, my criticisms have very solid foundation. Or please tell me that 'if you don't like it you can f7ck off' is a positive way of dealing with employee problems. if you are ex eastern you know that what I've written is the truth.
And lets someone endorse the ex or current CP as people of high management ability. well be waiting for some time for that.
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