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DL 757's to Europe
With the possible purchase of 10 ex TWA (now AA) 757's BHX must be
in with a chance of a JFK service.
However if approved by the bankruptcy courts the first two deliveries
would not be until July 2007 (all taken from another forum).
With NW intending to use 757's across the pond, US & AA already started there is plenty of possibilities.
There must be enough demand for at least one more service if not two?
AA to ORD would I presume be a 763 and although rumoured time and
time again I just can't see this happening but it would be a great coup.
Pete
in with a chance of a JFK service.
However if approved by the bankruptcy courts the first two deliveries
would not be until July 2007 (all taken from another forum).
With NW intending to use 757's across the pond, US & AA already started there is plenty of possibilities.
There must be enough demand for at least one more service if not two?
AA to ORD would I presume be a 763 and although rumoured time and
time again I just can't see this happening but it would be a great coup.
Pete
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Anymore takers?
There is still a spare slot from 6am-9.30 Monday to Friday.
The timetable sounds all a bit short for advertising etc.
Could it be the once rumoured Jersey or another Irish route such
as Shannon.
Is it definitely a new destination and if so would that be for both
BHX and Baby or just Baby?
Pete
There is still a spare slot from 6am-9.30 Monday to Friday.
The timetable sounds all a bit short for advertising etc.
Could it be the once rumoured Jersey or another Irish route such
as Shannon.
Is it definitely a new destination and if so would that be for both
BHX and Baby or just Baby?
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its NOT a new route for BHX but is for bmibaby!
so that obviously rules NQY out for you Centre Cities.......
was quite suprised myself when i heard it, but bmibaby like a battle and will enjoy the competition, will be nice to fly a boeing on the route for the BHX pax!
so that obviously rules NQY out for you Centre Cities.......
was quite suprised myself when i heard it, but bmibaby like a battle and will enjoy the competition, will be nice to fly a boeing on the route for the BHX pax!
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"Simple, BHX hasnt attracted the expansive Easy Jet and shunned Ryanair with its over priced fees. The facts are starting to bite now. Monarch only serve charter destinations further undermining BHX former strong charter traffic, BMI Baby havent expanded this year at all. BACON are will be head-to-head with Flybe on 3 routes BHD,HAJ and ABZ someone will be the looser there! New destinations are whats needed and another US link. I have it from good authority that AA ORD may be on the cards again! Forget the FlyWhos it wont happen. Major airlines should be looking at BHX Britains second city so why arnt they?
Daza" from Dasz
In a nut shell Birmingham is stuck about 15 years in the past, the airport is always playing catch up with development, look at the short pier, why has that not been extended and the long pier torn down, why has the plans for the runway to be extended been on ice for the last 20 years, why do we have the backward rules here such as not using a taxiway before 6am. If I was in charge at Birmingham I would close it for a year, level it and start again. The bigest problem for Birmingham is that its owned (well 51% of it) by the local council, and everybody there want to see money spent on hospitals and schools i.e vote winners, if you want to see real expantion at the airport then it needs to be in private hand lock, stock and barell, maybe the local council should sell out to BAA and then we could start going places........
"Simple, BHX hasnt attracted the expansive Easy Jet and shunned Ryanair with its over priced fees. The facts are starting to bite now. Monarch only serve charter destinations further undermining BHX former strong charter traffic, BMI Baby havent expanded this year at all. BACON are will be head-to-head with Flybe on 3 routes BHD,HAJ and ABZ someone will be the looser there! New destinations are whats needed and another US link. I have it from good authority that AA ORD may be on the cards again! Forget the FlyWhos it wont happen. Major airlines should be looking at BHX Britains second city so why arnt they?
Daza" from Dasz
In a nut shell Birmingham is stuck about 15 years in the past, the airport is always playing catch up with development, look at the short pier, why has that not been extended and the long pier torn down, why has the plans for the runway to be extended been on ice for the last 20 years, why do we have the backward rules here such as not using a taxiway before 6am. If I was in charge at Birmingham I would close it for a year, level it and start again. The bigest problem for Birmingham is that its owned (well 51% of it) by the local council, and everybody there want to see money spent on hospitals and schools i.e vote winners, if you want to see real expantion at the airport then it needs to be in private hand lock, stock and barell, maybe the local council should sell out to BAA and then we could start going places........
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You tease!
Does it involve the spare craft between 6am & 9.30am or are they
re-arranging a couple of the other schedules to get a 2 hour route in?
At least you have discounted a lot of routes.
New to baby but not to BHX and one with no Boeing!!!
It is getting late....I need some sleep before narrowing it down
to about 40
At the moment any extra flights will be greatly appreciated
outside of AGP,ALC etc which of course this will not be.
Pete
You tease!
Does it involve the spare craft between 6am & 9.30am or are they
re-arranging a couple of the other schedules to get a 2 hour route in?
At least you have discounted a lot of routes.
New to baby but not to BHX and one with no Boeing!!!
It is getting late....I need some sleep before narrowing it down
to about 40
At the moment any extra flights will be greatly appreciated
outside of AGP,ALC etc which of course this will not be.
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ha ha!!! sorry dont want to keep you up!
i wish it was somewhere glamorous as an extra agp or alc etc but i doubt others would view it like that!
one final clue to you is that its a domestic route!
i wish it was somewhere glamorous as an extra agp or alc etc but i doubt others would view it like that!
one final clue to you is that its a domestic route!
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Wow - Domestic
Aberdeen (Flybe to start so probably not although it is not until March)
Inverness
Newcastle (a bit of a short sector for a 737 - thought BE might dabble)
Isle of Man (no chance - I hope)
Belfast City (no chance.)
So Inverness is my guess. If not Aberdeen then Newcastle.
Is this a temporary route or to operate during the winter?
Pete
Aberdeen (Flybe to start so probably not although it is not until March)
Inverness
Newcastle (a bit of a short sector for a 737 - thought BE might dabble)
Isle of Man (no chance - I hope)
Belfast City (no chance.)
So Inverness is my guess. If not Aberdeen then Newcastle.
Is this a temporary route or to operate during the winter?
Pete
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I too will say INV.
Don't think my local as there was a recent interview in the local press here with bmi Reg, they said they didn't envisage bmi Baby coming to ABZ on the grounds of operating costs. Any further ABZ expansion from bmi Gp will likely be of the Regional/Barbie variety.
Suppose things can change, but don't see it!
Don't think my local as there was a recent interview in the local press here with bmi Reg, they said they didn't envisage bmi Baby coming to ABZ on the grounds of operating costs. Any further ABZ expansion from bmi Gp will likely be of the Regional/Barbie variety.
Suppose things can change, but don't see it!
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Originally Posted by Richard Taylor
Can I change my guess from INV to GLA? 
Baby was one quote. As far as I am aware they have been flying
EMA-GLA for quite a long time.
On that basis it has to be ABZ, INV or NCL.
ABZ would be very interesting with Flybe starting in March 07, Inverness might end up a disaster in one way, as it could scare Eastern off the route and Newcastle I suspect will never happen as a 735/733.
The spare slot for the route is first thing, Mon-Fri and if it is this time
then INV would possibly be fine. ABZ might need a morning and evening
flight to disrupt BACON.
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baby to glasgow
reason I said glasgow was been discussed in our l/c office for ages, with both station manager of baby suggesting the next routes would be CDG and GLA out of bhx.
The quote about it being a new route for baby might indicate out of bhx meaning it could be GLA, depends how you take the comment I guess.
The quote about it being a new route for baby might indicate out of bhx meaning it could be GLA, depends how you take the comment I guess.
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Yes it depends on how you read it "new route for Baby"
I hope it is Glasgow, if has to be a route with existing competition.
CDG would be good if true as well and give BACON & AF something to
think about.
I am a great supporter of BA out of BHX but I would have preferred
them to go full LCC with old 733's instead of this 145 network.
However that was always going to be a non-starter due to the
existing fleet in place.
Check out the CAA provisional stats for BHX and some of the BACON
routes are suffering, others have improved slightly & I just hope the cost
savings are enough to save the station but I have my doubts.
Good on Baby and although they have not done much in 2006 at BHX
I hope there is more to come.
Peter
Yes it depends on how you read it "new route for Baby"
I hope it is Glasgow, if has to be a route with existing competition.
CDG would be good if true as well and give BACON & AF something to
think about.
I am a great supporter of BA out of BHX but I would have preferred
them to go full LCC with old 733's instead of this 145 network.
However that was always going to be a non-starter due to the
existing fleet in place.
Check out the CAA provisional stats for BHX and some of the BACON
routes are suffering, others have improved slightly & I just hope the cost
savings are enough to save the station but I have my doubts.
Good on Baby and although they have not done much in 2006 at BHX
I hope there is more to come.
Peter
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What are the chances of an increased frequency on the BHX to BFS route from the current 3 per day? It carries more pax than BFS to Man but at a lower frequency.
Anyone any views who might know?
Anyone any views who might know?
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Certainly the Belfast Int figures have increased impressively.
It is a bit of a strange route in as much as when you do hear pax loads
from various sources they are usually not that good but the CAA stats
certainly do not lie.
I think in April it averaged around about the hundred mark, which
considering BACON started City in the same month it is a pretty
good result for Baby.
The provisional stats for June are out but Belfast Int has not filed
the figures. Belfast City have and they are down about 2000 this is
all from a net increase on the previous 12 months of three flights
a day. Far from stimulating interest in the route BACON has
actually depressed it or Baby have lured them away to Int.
As for yields on these routes I have no idea but something has
got to give. Already the BACON RJ100 flight (first one out) has been
been doing BHX-GLA instead recently. Whether this was pre-planned
I do not know.
At the moment pax wise it seems that Baby are winning, Flybe are
not doing too bad (remember some services have changed to the
DH8) and BACON appears to be struggling unless they are getting
good yields.
To answer your question, I think Baby would be better to attack
BACON on the Glasgow - Just would like BHX would actually get
some new routes!
Pete
Certainly the Belfast Int figures have increased impressively.
It is a bit of a strange route in as much as when you do hear pax loads
from various sources they are usually not that good but the CAA stats
certainly do not lie.
I think in April it averaged around about the hundred mark, which
considering BACON started City in the same month it is a pretty
good result for Baby.
The provisional stats for June are out but Belfast Int has not filed
the figures. Belfast City have and they are down about 2000 this is
all from a net increase on the previous 12 months of three flights
a day. Far from stimulating interest in the route BACON has
actually depressed it or Baby have lured them away to Int.
As for yields on these routes I have no idea but something has
got to give. Already the BACON RJ100 flight (first one out) has been
been doing BHX-GLA instead recently. Whether this was pre-planned
I do not know.
At the moment pax wise it seems that Baby are winning, Flybe are
not doing too bad (remember some services have changed to the
DH8) and BACON appears to be struggling unless they are getting
good yields.
To answer your question, I think Baby would be better to attack
BACON on the Glasgow - Just would like BHX would actually get
some new routes!
Pete