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Flybe 195
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Originally it was rumoured that the first 195 was coming to BHX but it
is not in any of the systems until the end of October as operating
from BHX.
It will then do the 0700ish outbound to Alicante on Mo We Fri and
Malaga Tu & Thu Sa.
The aircraft then goes back to Norwich (ex Thurs) before
operating back to AGP/ALC & it then returns to BHX at night.
Thursday it does BHX -Malaga & Murcia plus Murcia on a Sunday.
I believe it will also do Ski destinations when they start.
The first reported config was definitely 118 but rumours elsewhere
mentioned a change to 122. Another site stated that the first
delivery is delayed a little due minor tech details.
I think the first operational route is now Southampton - Edinburgh
Pete
Originally it was rumoured that the first 195 was coming to BHX but it
is not in any of the systems until the end of October as operating
from BHX.
It will then do the 0700ish outbound to Alicante on Mo We Fri and
Malaga Tu & Thu Sa.
The aircraft then goes back to Norwich (ex Thurs) before
operating back to AGP/ALC & it then returns to BHX at night.
Thursday it does BHX -Malaga & Murcia plus Murcia on a Sunday.
I believe it will also do Ski destinations when they start.
The first reported config was definitely 118 but rumours elsewhere
mentioned a change to 122. Another site stated that the first
delivery is delayed a little due minor tech details.
I think the first operational route is now Southampton - Edinburgh
Pete
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BHX July Passengers
Birmingham International Airport (BIA) handled 955,872 passengers
during July, a decrease of 6.7% on the same period last year.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that many have chosen to stay at home and
bask in the great British summer! The loss of MyTravelLite has also
impacted on passenger figures.
However, growth was experienced on services to the Indian sub-
continent, which rose by 12.5%, and non-EU routes which grew by 11%.
Scheduled routes that experienced growth include; Gothenburg
(+94.4%), Zurich (+69.7%), Malta (+39.3%), Inverness (+25.9%), Paphos
(+18.5%), Munich (+14.5%), Amsterdam (+12.8%), Frankfurt (+8.9%),
Aberdeen (+7.7%), Lyon (+7%), Madrid (+6.7%), Glasgow (+5.6%),
Toulouse (+4.6%), Barcelona (+5%) and Brussels (+3.5%).
Charter traffic which experienced growth includes; Croatia
(+117.64%), Bulgaria (+60.1%), Mexico (+37.4%), Morocco (+34.2%),
France (+28.5%), Madeira (+25.6%), Dominican Republic (+23.8%) Cyprus
(+13.3%), Germany (+12.3%) and Tunisia (+5.1%).
Scheduled traffic accounted for 64.4% of the total passenger traffic
in July whilst charter passengers made up the remaining 35.6%.
during July, a decrease of 6.7% on the same period last year.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that many have chosen to stay at home and
bask in the great British summer! The loss of MyTravelLite has also
impacted on passenger figures.
However, growth was experienced on services to the Indian sub-
continent, which rose by 12.5%, and non-EU routes which grew by 11%.
Scheduled routes that experienced growth include; Gothenburg
(+94.4%), Zurich (+69.7%), Malta (+39.3%), Inverness (+25.9%), Paphos
(+18.5%), Munich (+14.5%), Amsterdam (+12.8%), Frankfurt (+8.9%),
Aberdeen (+7.7%), Lyon (+7%), Madrid (+6.7%), Glasgow (+5.6%),
Toulouse (+4.6%), Barcelona (+5%) and Brussels (+3.5%).
Charter traffic which experienced growth includes; Croatia
(+117.64%), Bulgaria (+60.1%), Mexico (+37.4%), Morocco (+34.2%),
France (+28.5%), Madeira (+25.6%), Dominican Republic (+23.8%) Cyprus
(+13.3%), Germany (+12.3%) and Tunisia (+5.1%).
Scheduled traffic accounted for 64.4% of the total passenger traffic
in July whilst charter passengers made up the remaining 35.6%.
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Nice to see another Aircraft been hit, Aerosvit B737 with a nice long hole in its side.Not only has the skin got a loooong hole in it but a frame has been damaged also.
I wonder what the excuse is this time?
Well done to all concerned.
Leaglize I take it you are "AWAKE" for this one aswell.
Now you tell me this one could not be avoided, I think not.
I wonder what the excuse is this time?
Well done to all concerned.
Leaglize I take it you are "AWAKE" for this one aswell.
Now you tell me this one could not be avoided, I think not.
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Originally Posted by rubber jonny
Nice to see another Aircraft been hit, Aerosvit B737 with a nice long hole in its side.Not only has the skin got a loooong hole in it but a frame has been damaged also.
(not a spotter question - I have a business interest in knowing who the lessor is!
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Originally Posted by Ian Farquharson
Birmingham International Airport (BIA) handled 955,872 passengers
during July, a decrease of 6.7% on the same period last year.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that many have chosen to stay at home and
bask in the great British summer! The loss of MyTravelLite has also
impacted on passenger figures.
during July, a decrease of 6.7% on the same period last year.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that many have chosen to stay at home and
bask in the great British summer! The loss of MyTravelLite has also
impacted on passenger figures.
This from their website:-
Despite the sizzling summer weather throughout July across the region, the number of people passing through the doors of Nottingham East Midlands Airport (NEMA) has jumped by 15% compared to the same month in 2005.
Between 1 July and 31 July 2006, 514,216 customers travelled to and from the Airport. During July 2005 this figure was 447,634 for all arrivals and departures.
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July Pax
Certainly BHX's figures are a shock, I thought a 1-2% loss was likely and it seems that the airport were expecting this in the earlier part of the year but over 6%!.
All we can hope for that it shakes the management to the core as these
are pathetic figures. I just checked the BHX July 2003 CAA stats -
992813. It takes some doing in the current aviation boom to obtain
monthly pax figures below July 2003.
The East Mids figures are good but 2005 was "their bad year", as the
CAA stats show the following: -
July 2003 474801
July 2004 483739
July 2005 447634.
With Ryanair in place things should only improve for EMA and good luck to them. BHX are struggling but I still would not like this horrible airline based at BHX, more jealous of EMA having the Orange lot and we would
graciously take them off your hands
, crew shortages and all.
BTW the Ryanair EMA French routes seem to be hitting the Flybe French
routes at BHX looking at the April-June stats. Of course Flybe have
changed some routes from a 146 to DH8 but I have just checked
the May load factors and they are not great even on a Dash 8.
Hard times at BHX.
Pete
All we can hope for that it shakes the management to the core as these
are pathetic figures. I just checked the BHX July 2003 CAA stats -
992813. It takes some doing in the current aviation boom to obtain
monthly pax figures below July 2003.
The East Mids figures are good but 2005 was "their bad year", as the
CAA stats show the following: -
July 2003 474801
July 2004 483739
July 2005 447634.
With Ryanair in place things should only improve for EMA and good luck to them. BHX are struggling but I still would not like this horrible airline based at BHX, more jealous of EMA having the Orange lot and we would
graciously take them off your hands
, crew shortages and all.BTW the Ryanair EMA French routes seem to be hitting the Flybe French
routes at BHX looking at the April-June stats. Of course Flybe have
changed some routes from a 146 to DH8 but I have just checked
the May load factors and they are not great even on a Dash 8.
Hard times at BHX.
Pete
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Hard Times
2004 was a bad year, 2005 was much better but all the arm chair viewers suspected that this would not last. The reason is of course that the extra capacity was all on the same routes with Baby, Monarch and Flybe all competing with Lite.
What is left after it sorts itself out. Lite are no more, Baby have stood still,Flybe have cut back. The only expanding airline is Monrarch.
Well I would be suprised if the airport management had not seen that coming.
Centre cities
What is left after it sorts itself out. Lite are no more, Baby have stood still,Flybe have cut back. The only expanding airline is Monrarch.
Well I would be suprised if the airport management had not seen that coming.
Centre cities
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"So inconveniencing Hundreds/thousands of people, costing an airline Thousands of pounds, causing damage to aircraft keeps you awake and passes the time.You really do need to get out more.
Next time it happens go and pass your comments to the airline personnel and passengers!!!!!!!."
Hitting a/c does not always inconveniance thousands of passengers. In this case, probably 10-15!!!
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"So inconveniencing Hundreds/thousands of people, costing an airline Thousands of pounds, causing damage to aircraft keeps you awake and passes the time.You really do need to get out more.
Next time it happens go and pass your comments to the airline personnel and passengers!!!!!!!."
Hitting a/c does not always inconveniance thousands of passengers. In this case, probably 10-15!!!
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A couple of rumours, a Turkish Airline (Atlasjet?) is apparently looking at several new European routes which includes Birmingham. Not sure if this will be from IST or SAW
Also, Sky Europe are looking to increase their presence at Birmingham. Possibly increasing the current frequencies & could add more new routes to Eastern Europe.
Also Rumours of Austrian & Finnair around although the former could just be charter flights
WNC
Also, Sky Europe are looking to increase their presence at Birmingham. Possibly increasing the current frequencies & could add more new routes to Eastern Europe.
Also Rumours of Austrian & Finnair around although the former could just be charter flights
WNC
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Atlas/NE/OS/AY
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Not heard the Turkey rumour but OS and AY have been doing the rounds
for a while. OS as a CRJ or FK70 and AY as a 170 would have a decent
chance if the timings are right.
Rumour has it the airport tried to persuade SkyEurope to increase and
move the flight times due to the poor performance of the flight (see
CAA stats).
All SkyEurope did was move to flights by a day and kept the same
timings. With the performance of the Krakow it would be a brave
decision to expand but certainly 4 flights a week would have more
chance than the present two.
Budapest could be another good route for them?
Pete
Not heard the Turkey rumour but OS and AY have been doing the rounds
for a while. OS as a CRJ or FK70 and AY as a 170 would have a decent
chance if the timings are right.
Rumour has it the airport tried to persuade SkyEurope to increase and
move the flight times due to the poor performance of the flight (see
CAA stats).
All SkyEurope did was move to flights by a day and kept the same
timings. With the performance of the Krakow it would be a brave
decision to expand but certainly 4 flights a week would have more
chance than the present two.
Budapest could be another good route for them?
Pete
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Originally Posted by we_never_change
A couple of rumours, a Turkish Airline (Atlasjet?) is apparently looking at several new European routes which includes Birmingham. Not sure if this will be from IST or SAW
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Golden rule - always check the most update information before posting
I checked the July CAA stats (provisional) for Krakow and they are much
improved compared to May & June, which you would probably expect.
July 2006: -
Krakow 2056, assuming 18 flights (8 movements on Wed & 10 Sat) = 114
per flight. Most if not all were on a 73G, which equals a fair load factor.
Just need to know yields but if you can persuade an average of 114 pax
to fly at 07.00 ish from Krakow there must be hope for the service.
Pete
I checked the July CAA stats (provisional) for Krakow and they are much
improved compared to May & June, which you would probably expect.
July 2006: -
Krakow 2056, assuming 18 flights (8 movements on Wed & 10 Sat) = 114
per flight. Most if not all were on a 73G, which equals a fair load factor.
Just need to know yields but if you can persuade an average of 114 pax
to fly at 07.00 ish from Krakow there must be hope for the service.
Pete
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Found the answer: -
HEATHROW 6,533,164 +1.2%
GATWICK 3,720,070 +4.2%
MANCHESTER 2,422,504 +1.0%
STANSTED 2,391,507 +10.0%
GLASGOW 1,036,595 -1.7%
LUTON 959,114 +5.2%
BIRMINGHAM 945,264 -6.8%
EDINBURGH 862,523 +2.0%
NEWCASTLE 603,209 +5.9%
BRISTOL 572,487 +6.3%
EAST MIDS 525,113 +17.5%
LIVERPOOL 483,597 +9.2%
ABERDEEN 292,237 +6.6%
PRESTWICK 268,400 +0.8%
CARDIFF WALES 241,768 +14.7%
BHX has about 10000 transit pax to add usually but still pathetic.
Pete
HEATHROW 6,533,164 +1.2%
GATWICK 3,720,070 +4.2%
MANCHESTER 2,422,504 +1.0%
STANSTED 2,391,507 +10.0%
GLASGOW 1,036,595 -1.7%
LUTON 959,114 +5.2%
BIRMINGHAM 945,264 -6.8%
EDINBURGH 862,523 +2.0%
NEWCASTLE 603,209 +5.9%
BRISTOL 572,487 +6.3%
EAST MIDS 525,113 +17.5%
LIVERPOOL 483,597 +9.2%
ABERDEEN 292,237 +6.6%
PRESTWICK 268,400 +0.8%
CARDIFF WALES 241,768 +14.7%
BHX has about 10000 transit pax to add usually but still pathetic.
Pete
I cannot verify the source, but seems pretty accurate as LTN does not seem to publicly realse their pax figures and the airport has opened numerous routes recently.