LUTON - 3

[OltonPete]

July 2006 pax figures yet?

Hi

As BHX has posted their third dreadful set of monthly pax figures and with Luton catching up quickly (higher in some months) I was wondering if the
July figures have been published - nothing on the website earlier.

If anyone is interested in the BHX figures the monthly press releases
on the BHX website are a good read - the excuses are lame to say the least but entertaining.

Pete

[OltonPete]

July 2006 pax

Found the answer: -

HEATHROW 6,533,164 +1.2%
GATWICK 3,720,070 +4.2%
MANCHESTER 2,422,504 +1.0%
STANSTED 2,391,507 +10.0%
GLASGOW 1,036,595 -1.7%
LUTON 959,114 +5.2%
BIRMINGHAM 945,264 -6.8%
EDINBURGH 862,523 +2.0%
NEWCASTLE 603,209 +5.9%
BRISTOL 572,487 +6.3%
EAST MIDS 525,113 +17.5%
LIVERPOOL 483,597 +9.2%
ABERDEEN 292,237 +6.6%
PRESTWICK 268,400 +0.8%
CARDIFF WALES 241,768 +14.7%

BHX has about 10000 transit pax to add usually but still pathetic.

Pete

[True Blue]

July Pax

Why no reference to either Bfs or Bhd, they are also domestic points?

True Blue

[OltonPete]

July 2006 pax

True Blue

Sorry no slight intended, I just copied & pasted a few from a BHX forum.

I did notice when checking the individual route analysis BHX-BFS figure was missing, as it was in the June provisional figures.

Perhaps I should have kept the figures to LUT & BHX on this thread, as the only point I was trying to make was the speed at which the two airports are going - in different directions!

Pete

[LTNman]

Luton now number 5

Luton has also now overtaken Birmingham, Glasgow and Edinburgh on year on year figures and is now in 5th place.

Carrying on the thread about how Luton has overtaken Birmingham here are the figures over the last 10 years .

July 1997 2,933,000 5,614,000
July 1998 3,661,000 6,307,000
July 1999 4,798,000 6,819,000
July 2000 5,835,000 7,210,000
July 2001 6,462,000 7,736,000
July 2002 6,396,000 7,628,000
July 2003 6,731,000 8,543,000
July 2004 7,026,000 8,997,000
July 2005 8,619,000 8,964,000
July 2006 9,353,390 9,245,072

Birmingham up 64% over a 10 year period while Luton is up 219% which is a growth rate nearly 4 times higher than Birmingham.

[ebenezer]

Originally Posted by LTNman

Luton has also now overtaken Birmingham, Glasgow and Edinburgh on year-on-year figures and is now in 5th place.
Birmingham up 64% over a 10 year period while Luton is up 219% which is a growth rate nearly 4 times higher than Birmingham.

And if the comparative 'running' costs are examined, it's clear that LTN is around twice as efficient and therefore, cost-effective as BHX. It's only the continuing drain of Luton Borough Council taking its slice of the action (in return for doing absolutely nothing constructive or helpful ) that makes LTN less profitable for the airport operator.

BHX has about 10000 transit pax to add

This is one aspect where LTN - as opposed to for example, BHX, LHR, LGW, MAN, SOU and even to a limited extent STN - misses out and probably explains why so many airline operators have failed to make a go of it at LTN: with virtually no interlining, almost all pax using LTN are originating or terminating and so the pax figures for LTN are actually, even more impressive.

It would be interesting to compare the top six or seven UK airports' pax figures with the transit pax taken out of the monthly/annual totals.

ACDL really is to be congratulated.

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by ebenezer

This is one aspect where LTN - as opposed to for example, BHX, LHR, LGW, MAN, SOU and even to a limited extent STN - misses out and probably explains why so many airline operators have failed to make a go of it at LTN: with virtually no interlining, almost all pax using LTN are originating or terminating and so the pax figures for LTN are actually, even more impressive.
It would be interesting to compare the top six or seven UK airports' pax figures with the transit pax taken out of the monthly/annual totals.
ACDL really is to be congratulated.

Looking at the May figures http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...K_Airports.pdf which shows the latest transit passengers Luton is ahead of Stansted but Inverness has more scheduled transit passengers than Gatwick, Stansted and Luton combined.

What the figures don’t show are the passengers who collect their luggage who then check-in for another flight

[CAP493]

Luton is ahead of Stansted

That's interesting. It'd be revealing to know which airlines these interlining passengers are using as presumably, it isn't easyJet or Ryanair (or Wizz or Monarch Scheduled).

Luton Borough Counc...in return for doing absolutely nothing constructive or helpfu

This is an understatement! LBC has effectively scuppered Project 2030, and seems only to be interested in trying to squeeze a 'quart into a pint pot' by encouraging development of the existing cramped site. Quite how LBC envisages such an expanded airport efficiently processing 20 million annual passengers and the associated ground activity, goodness knows. The problem is that its officials appear neither commercially-minded nor aviation specialists and so are seemingly quite unable to grasp the concept of what's actually needed to move Luton into League Division 1.

A well-placed source has indicated that ACDL's Spanish management is beginning to get frustrated with the Council's approach and that the break clause in the Concession agreement in 2015 could see ACDL simply walking away before the increased business that it's struggled to generate is lost almost overnight, to the likes of an expanded Stansted.

Alas, it seems that only then - and too late - will LBC perhaps wake up to the realities of running an international airport in an aggressively commercial airport environment.

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by CAP493

That's interesting. It'd be revealing to know which airlines these interlining passengers are using as presumably, it isn't easyJet or Ryanair (or Wizz or Monarch Scheduled).
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Could this figure include aircraft that have called in to pick up or drop off passengers while keeping the remainder on board. I think Wizz has done this on route to Liverpool.

[Pain in the R's]

Thought I better check the airport out today as we are flying tomorrow and have a diabetic son.

The drop off area is closed with all traffic being directed to the short-term car park where the first half hour is now free. As the machines still charge for the first half hour a person has been put on the entrance barrier to pass on this information and to tell drivers not to put the ticket into the pay station. There are three entrance barriers but only one person so the other two are closed off but this single person can only process 5 cars a minute. I know this for a fact as I was sad enough to get my watch out. This explains why it took so long to get into the airport at lunchtime.

Easyjet passengers have to queue outside, as they have to be processed first in a marquee in the drop off area before they are allowed into the terminal to join another queue at check-in.

Once checked in all passengers have to have the contents of their plastic bags examined at the bottom of the stairs before they can head upstairs to security. One woman had to throw away a clear see-through glass case. I asked one of the members of staff who were checking bags whether I could take a couple of digestive biscuit airside as they are needed as emergency food for my diabetic son. No was the answer. So there you are, I have established that terrorists can make a bomb out of a digestive biscuit.

As a side note M&S store was all but empty while the World News shop was empty with no one at the check out.

[ebenezer]

As a side note M&S store was all but empty while the World News shop was empty with no one at the check out.

Hardly surprising if you can't take most of the items to be purchased, with you on the flight. These restrictions must also be playing absolute havoc with duty free sales at LTN and elsewhwere (except Singapore and some other enlightened locations where I believe [sensibly...] you buy pre-ordered duty free goods on arrival). If the disruption continues beyond the end of August some permanent commercial damage will undoubtedly be done to the industry, which will no doubt please the environmentalists and NIMBYs. Still, the alternative is too frightful to contemplate.

[Buster the Bear]

Without a huge slice of retail income, the airports will have to re-model their business plans. Car parking, landing fees, parking charges will all have to rise massively should the current security restrictions remain in place long term!

Certainly the threatened terrorist attack was twarted, but the damage, thankfully not to human life, will remain within the airline industry for some time to come.

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by ebenezer

These restrictions must also be playing absolute havoc with duty free sales at LTN and elsewhwere .

Shouldn't make a difference as once airside you can shop until you drop. In fact they will make more money as passengers can't take food with them until bought airside.

[PAXboy]

For LTN = Yes. But NOT the case for any sectors from the UK to the USA.

[cheesycol]

Hi,

Flew into Luton yesterday morning, 14th, at 0100L and there was an MEA A320 parked at the terminal. Can anybody shed any light? I believe that they are currently operating out of Damascus and that they usually operate into Heathrow?

Thanks for any info

[pabely]

Thomsonfly & Silverjet

As reported in the press today, Thomsonfly will receive 3 new 737-800 next year and Silverjet have entered into a letter of intent to secure two of Thomsonfly's Boeing 767-200 aircraft no later than March and October 2007.

[Cahlibahn]

The MEA bus is subbed to EasyJet. Part of their efforts to overcome crew shortage.

[egnxema]

Can I just getthis clear in my head then.

I fully understand what I am not able to take through the security area.

When I am in the Departure Lounge, am I able to buy a litre of Gin - Duty Free; a paper and a bottle of Sprite to drink on board?

[jetsetwilly]

The MEA was a 321 operating a LIS-LTN sector. It then pos back to CDG.

JSW.

[Buster the Bear]

Any update on the proposed increase in cargo operations from Luton rumoured last spring?