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I am making an educated guess that the runway was not 'closed' more like the airport fire service attended a 'ground incident' so the available fire cover was depleted/insufficient for aircraft larger than a certain size to land?
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Only Ryanair to Malta it is then?
The local representative of EasyJet could not be contacted as he is currently abroad.
Sources close to the industry have, however cast doubts on whether the Luton-based airline will actually start its operations since Ryanair has confirmed it will also be flying to Malta. While Ryanair's deputy chief executive Michael Cawley said his airline did not fear competition, EasyJet has remained conspicuously absent from the debate. Sources said that EasyJet applied to start operations next April or May.
Sources close to the industry have, however cast doubts on whether the Luton-based airline will actually start its operations since Ryanair has confirmed it will also be flying to Malta. While Ryanair's deputy chief executive Michael Cawley said his airline did not fear competition, EasyJet has remained conspicuously absent from the debate. Sources said that EasyJet applied to start operations next April or May.
Ryanair's quick action may frighten Easyjet off the Luton route. It would mean Easyjet would need to go into competition with Ryanair on a route where Ryanair have already gotten a head start over Easyjet...
Which brings us back to Buster's question: what Luton routes will Ryanair axe/reduce to introduce Malta? It's going to be daily, and is quite a long sector! We'll find out soon enough I suppose...
I could imagine reductions in Reus and maybe even poor Knock
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http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=236002
Ryanair's quick action may frighten Easyjet off the Luton route. It would mean Easyjet would need to go into competition with Ryanair on a route where Ryanair have already gotten a head start over Easyjet...
Which brings us back to Buster's question: what Luton routes will Ryanair axe/reduce to introduce Malta? It's going to be daily, and is quite a long sector! We'll find out soon enough I suppose...
I could imagine reductions in Reus and maybe even poor Knock
Ryanair's quick action may frighten Easyjet off the Luton route. It would mean Easyjet would need to go into competition with Ryanair on a route where Ryanair have already gotten a head start over Easyjet...
Which brings us back to Buster's question: what Luton routes will Ryanair axe/reduce to introduce Malta? It's going to be daily, and is quite a long sector! We'll find out soon enough I suppose...
I could imagine reductions in Reus and maybe even poor Knock
You never know they might base a 5th 737-800 at the airport and see a whole load of new routes appear.
Well I can dream...
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Taking a look at the Ryanair timetable for Nov-06, it looks like there is already spare capacity in the schedule for Malta - leaving LTN at around 16:20, which would put it back to LTN at some time around 23:30. It would be the same airframe that does the Nimes and early Milan-Bergamo sectors.
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Have just returned fron newquay today thurs 07/09 via Air Arann
just 19 on flight ,went out on monday only 22 on flight very low loads any body no if this is the norm if so do not see this returing next summer?(flights not in air arann's winter timetable) may be if it went 5 days a week 2 flights a day to catch the biz travellers.??
just 19 on flight ,went out on monday only 22 on flight very low loads any body no if this is the norm if so do not see this returing next summer?(flights not in air arann's winter timetable) may be if it went 5 days a week 2 flights a day to catch the biz travellers.??
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I am making an educated guess that the Newquay service was only introduced after Air Wales closed up shop causing Arann to change their immediate expansion plans from Luton, preferring to pick up established routes from Cardiff.
Arann were rumoured to have grander plans for Luton this summer which were curtailed somewhat. The Newquay route is a bit of a 'gap filler', only released for sale a few weeks ago. Not surprising that loads are a bit 'thin'. What you have you remember is the yield though, full planes don't always mean high yields or profit.
Arann were rumoured to have grander plans for Luton this summer which were curtailed somewhat. The Newquay route is a bit of a 'gap filler', only released for sale a few weeks ago. Not surprising that loads are a bit 'thin'. What you have you remember is the yield though, full planes don't always mean high yields or profit.
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Just heard that there was a ground collision at Luton tonight. Fact or fiction?
A 737 after landing had an overheating undercarriage + hydraulic leak. Airport Fire Service deployed in accordance with standard emergency procedures. The Fire Service Category was temporarily reduced to 'Nil' whilst the incident was being dealt with and so only aircraft able to use an 'unlicensed' airfield could land. There were none, and some diverted into Stansted (which had been temporarily closed itself shortly before, for emergency runway repairs [two/three aircraft diverted into Luton as a result]). As Buster says, the Luton runway was NOT "closed" neither was the Airport.
All in a routine day's work!
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Just heard that there was a ground collision at Luton tonight. Fact or fiction?
100% fiction!
Just heard that there was a ground collision at Luton tonight. Fact or fiction?
100% fiction!
The Fire Service Category was temporarily reduced to 'Nil' whilst the incident was being dealt with and so only aircraft able to use an 'unlicensed' airfield could land.
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The roads works on the M1 that are also now on the airport approach road are doing my head in. It took me nearly an hour to travel from the airport to junction 9. I wonder if this is having any sort of effect on executive jet movements as passengers look for a better way into London?
I also see that there have been nighttime closures of the southbound carriageway with only a single lane open for southbound traffic on the northbound carriageway. I wonder how many passengers have been caught up in these traffic queues only to find that not only can’t they leave the motorway at the airport’s junction 10 exit they also can’t leave at junction 9 either. The diversion takes them to junction 8 where they have to travel half a mile on the slip road at Hemel Hempstead before they can turn around and start heading north again. Just to add to their misery if they are now late is the 40 mph speed limit. I guess the diversion route is around 20 miles!!!
I also see that there have been nighttime closures of the southbound carriageway with only a single lane open for southbound traffic on the northbound carriageway. I wonder how many passengers have been caught up in these traffic queues only to find that not only can’t they leave the motorway at the airport’s junction 10 exit they also can’t leave at junction 9 either. The diversion takes them to junction 8 where they have to travel half a mile on the slip road at Hemel Hempstead before they can turn around and start heading north again. Just to add to their misery if they are now late is the 40 mph speed limit. I guess the diversion route is around 20 miles!!!
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...was it fact or fiction that an Easyjet with low fuel and who had called a PAN still made an approach with low or no fire cover?
Many years ago, in Dubai, during a major incident with no fire cover, two BA 747's landed using "Captain's discretion" yet an Iraqi Airways Trident, a KLM 747 and a MEA Boeing 720 (yes it was that long ago...) declined and diverted to (I think) Sharjah.
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Iraqi Airways Trident........BLIMEY, one of Hatfield's finest!
Road situation surrounding Luton is awful at times. Two major road improvement schemes running concurrently is not ideal at all. Think however, of the benefits to access in a couple of years time?
If you allow a bit of 'extra' time and avoid the 'rush hours', then access to Luton airport is not too problematical, certainly no worse than when access to Stansted was being upgraded a few years back?
As a slight 'aside', whilst in Milton Keynes today, I saw a 'raspberry ripple' Andover fly above me at around 2000ft. What a rare aircraft and the sound of the Dart engines was awesome! Busterette (aged 2 and a bit) was just excited as her Daddy, claiming that it was a "WizzJet"! She did however get two right this evening as they positioned for 08 over our Bear Palace! Sadly neither were Dart powered. If only the Spectators Area was still open, I could then educate her properly, just like my Dad did back in July 1969. I have never been the same since!
Road situation surrounding Luton is awful at times. Two major road improvement schemes running concurrently is not ideal at all. Think however, of the benefits to access in a couple of years time?
If you allow a bit of 'extra' time and avoid the 'rush hours', then access to Luton airport is not too problematical, certainly no worse than when access to Stansted was being upgraded a few years back?
As a slight 'aside', whilst in Milton Keynes today, I saw a 'raspberry ripple' Andover fly above me at around 2000ft. What a rare aircraft and the sound of the Dart engines was awesome! Busterette (aged 2 and a bit) was just excited as her Daddy, claiming that it was a "WizzJet"! She did however get two right this evening as they positioned for 08 over our Bear Palace! Sadly neither were Dart powered. If only the Spectators Area was still open, I could then educate her properly, just like my Dad did back in July 1969. I have never been the same since!
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...as they positioned for 08 over our Bear Palace!
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I had not been through the airport for ten weeks or so, until this Thursday for my regular BA to IOM.
I am not expecting the baggage handling to be quick on Monday morning.
- Previously, when I wanted to book on-line for the mid-term, the system told me "You cannot book for today". This Wednesday it told me "You cannot book for tommorrow". I'm sure that they DO want me to book, I just haven't found the secret door yet.
- The new entrance to the mid-term park is good but cannot understand the removal of the bus stop from the turning circle.
- It is reassuring to see that the new EZY building is going to look as ugly and $hite as all the other new buildings.
- The security was reasonable for speed but I noticed that the fast track is to have a wheelchair from the airport with a pusher. Those that had their own wheelchair and pusher were not allowed to queue jump. So, having a person that has to complete the job quickly is useful.
- They did not question the trouser belt that LHR demanded I remove but decided that the cameras (analogue 35mm + mini DV video) had to be inspected and 'sniffed'. But staff all seemed reasonable and polite.
I am not expecting the baggage handling to be quick on Monday morning.
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Taking a look at the Ryanair timetable for Nov-06, it looks like there is already spare capacity in the schedule for Malta - leaving LTN at around 16:20, which would put it back to LTN at some time around 23:30. It would be the same airframe that does the Nimes and early Milan-Bergamo sectors.
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Nowhere near Bucks, our bear palace is positioned to gain maximum exposure to all the noise Leighton Buzzard residents successfully campaigned against. What I can confirm is that there is no actual noise, only an occasional whistle as a Wizzjet passes above. No getting jealous Mr 1 BRAVO!
Some of the 'anti noise' brigade are welcome to spend an afternoon in my garden and experience the reality of a 'new' route into Luton.
What I can confirm is that reality is FAR from the truth, well the truth that the anti Luton brigade would have you believe! The tractor in a neighbouring field makes more noise, maybe I should have the local harvest banned!
The last time I went to Dane End, the area was littered with used cond***s....YUK! Was always known as Lovers Lane and for good reason!
Some of the 'anti noise' brigade are welcome to spend an afternoon in my garden and experience the reality of a 'new' route into Luton.
What I can confirm is that reality is FAR from the truth, well the truth that the anti Luton brigade would have you believe! The tractor in a neighbouring field makes more noise, maybe I should have the local harvest banned!
The last time I went to Dane End, the area was littered with used cond***s....YUK! Was always known as Lovers Lane and for good reason!
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There is no sign of the easyjet crew shortage that is having a detrimental effect on Luton’s passenger figures coming to an end. From 7:00 up until 15:00 there are 10 cancellations including the first departures and arrivals of the day to Edinburgh and Belfast. Popular with the business traveller they have no doubt cancelled their evening flights home assuming that they are actually running. Belfast’s mid afternoon flights have also been cancelled.
My sister-in–law who makes the travel arrangements for her company has now abandoned easyjet and Luton after having two consecutive bookings from Aberdeen cancelled.
My sister-in–law who makes the travel arrangements for her company has now abandoned easyjet and Luton after having two consecutive bookings from Aberdeen cancelled.
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Well Done your sister in law!!
It is about time more started to dump easyJet - they appear to be acting blindly to the damage they are inflicting on their customer base.
Business fliers are the biggest source of repeat business!!
For crying out loud easyJet - WAKE UP to the the self inflicted problems you have and are so incompitently dealing with!!
I also have switched away from easyJet for flights to Spain since being cancelled on at check-in - of course they claim I am not entitled to EU Compensation - but I have had to write 4 letters and make 5 phone calls to "Customer Services" to even get my hotel/taxi/food refunded.
The refund is at today's EUR exchange rate - even though I provided all the receipts and asked for the GBP equivalent I actually paid.
The sums of money are obviously not vast - but the principle is that easyJet do not give a **** about whether of not you ever fly with them again - what blind blind arrogant policy!
I remember writing one comment letter to Gofly, not even a strong complaint - and they sent me a £20 voucher off a future flight! Now THAT is how to run a Customer Service department - It does not matter what mistake a company makes - it is how they recover from it that is important.
sorry - I am ranting again...............
It is about time more started to dump easyJet - they appear to be acting blindly to the damage they are inflicting on their customer base.
Business fliers are the biggest source of repeat business!!
For crying out loud easyJet - WAKE UP to the the self inflicted problems you have and are so incompitently dealing with!!
I also have switched away from easyJet for flights to Spain since being cancelled on at check-in - of course they claim I am not entitled to EU Compensation - but I have had to write 4 letters and make 5 phone calls to "Customer Services" to even get my hotel/taxi/food refunded.
The refund is at today's EUR exchange rate - even though I provided all the receipts and asked for the GBP equivalent I actually paid.
The sums of money are obviously not vast - but the principle is that easyJet do not give a **** about whether of not you ever fly with them again - what blind blind arrogant policy!
I remember writing one comment letter to Gofly, not even a strong complaint - and they sent me a £20 voucher off a future flight! Now THAT is how to run a Customer Service department - It does not matter what mistake a company makes - it is how they recover from it that is important.
sorry - I am ranting again...............
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I also agree I went to Spain last year with Monarch who were the same price as Easy jet however I could prebook my seat. By doing this I could relax and have a cup of coffee in Lutons excellent departure area and not have to stand in the Queue and get involved in a dangerous pushing shoving match for a good seat. Luton should change this condition and make airline allocate seating at a minimum when you first check in at the Airport for passenger safety.