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Originally Posted by Charlie Roy
Well, to be more precise, it's going to be going to FEZ and Marrekech in the Winter. Check out Ryanair's route map!
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So with FEZ & RAK starting end of Oct, and seem to be operating on alternate days, does this still leave any gap to be filled for something else ?. I would have thought so,
So with FEZ & RAK starting end of Oct, and seem to be operating on alternate days, does this still leave any gap to be filled for something else ?. I would have thought so,
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Indeed, there is still a gap in schedule. Luton is losing 3 daily flights: Vasteras (2) and Shannon (1), but gaining only one daily Morrocan flight. Defo a gap in the scheduling. Hopefully more new routes on the way 
Thought the would have announced them all together though... Strange.
Thought the would have announced them all together though... Strange.
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The block times for 1 Morrocan, LTN-FEZ-LTN(7.40hr) & LTN-RAK-LTN(7.05hr) roughly equate to 2 existing sectors, i.e LTN-VST(4.50hr) & LTN-SNN(3.05hr) Total 7.55hrs.
It would seem therefore, that a sector length of 1.50/2.00hr outbound & return to ONE new destination is poss.
The block times for 1 Morrocan, LTN-FEZ-LTN(7.40hr) & LTN-RAK-LTN(7.05hr) roughly equate to 2 existing sectors, i.e LTN-VST(4.50hr) & LTN-SNN(3.05hr) Total 7.55hrs.
It would seem therefore, that a sector length of 1.50/2.00hr outbound & return to ONE new destination is poss.
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Can't see the Thomsonfly LTN-RAK flights surviving, now that ryanair have announced they are also to fly the route. It is no coincidence that ryan are to operate their four weekly flights to RAK on precisely the same days as T, but with a departure time one hour earlier.
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I don't know, there might be untapped potential for this route considering the lack of low cost between the two countries. It's not as though every Ryanair route has been a runaway success at Luton is it!?
I don't know, there might be untapped potential for this route considering the lack of low cost between the two countries. It's not as though every Ryanair route has been a runaway success at Luton is it!?
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Ya, i don't think Ryanair have launched a route to RAK purposefully to spite Thomsonfly.
Ryanair have been preparing their Morocco strategy for a number of months. Luton (/London) to RAK was definitely on the cards for Ryanair anyway.
It is also their policy to operate to RAK on early morning 1-3-5-7 and FEZ early morning -2-4-6-
This is already how they fly their Moroccan routes from Frankfurt Hahn and Marseille.
I think Ryanair didn't even consider Thomsonfly when planning it's Luton to Morocco routes.
Ryanair have been preparing their Morocco strategy for a number of months. Luton (/London) to RAK was definitely on the cards for Ryanair anyway.
It is also their policy to operate to RAK on early morning 1-3-5-7 and FEZ early morning -2-4-6-
This is already how they fly their Moroccan routes from Frankfurt Hahn and Marseille.
I think Ryanair didn't even consider Thomsonfly when planning it's Luton to Morocco routes.
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I understand that with a proposed re-design of the London TMA to be implemented within 3 years, movement rates could increase to well over 40 per hour assuming the infrastructure on the ground has been upgraded to cope.
For that movement rate, the days of the back track would be numbered. Parallel taxiway to both ends and rapid exits off the runway would be required (together with somewhere to park all the planes)!
For that movement rate, the days of the back track would be numbered. Parallel taxiway to both ends and rapid exits off the runway would be required (together with somewhere to park all the planes)!
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In the booking engine Aer Arann are reducing IOM - LTN from 12 to 5 weekly.
In winter it'll be an afternoon flight 12345--
The route will also be operated with a LTN based aircraft, and not an IOM based aircraft, as now.
In fact I can't figure out RE's aircraft usage. With IOM - DUB currently done with a DUB aircraft, what does the IOM aircraft do all week? Just 12 LTN flights?! Not going to bother to try to figure it out. They do so many W's its boggling. I remember before an RE aircraft used to finish its day flying EDI - ORK. But used then take off from ORK empty to fly to I don't know what base
to start the day there the following day!
In the booking engine Aer Arann are reducing IOM - LTN from 12 to 5 weekly.
In winter it'll be an afternoon flight 12345--
The route will also be operated with a LTN based aircraft, and not an IOM based aircraft, as now.
In fact I can't figure out RE's aircraft usage. With IOM - DUB currently done with a DUB aircraft, what does the IOM aircraft do all week? Just 12 LTN flights?! Not going to bother to try to figure it out. They do so many W's its boggling. I remember before an RE aircraft used to finish its day flying EDI - ORK. But used then take off from ORK empty to fly to I don't know what base
to start the day there the following day!
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How I miss those Manx Shed's that inaugurated the route back in the late 1980's!
Will Arann increase their frequency now they have removed the competition. BAcon must have problems if Arann have struck a death blow so soon on this route! 4 jet engines against 2 props, Jet A1 is so expensive now, I guess this outcome was a foregone conclusion if BAcon loads were poor at times?
Will Arann increase their frequency now they have removed the competition. BAcon must have problems if Arann have struck a death blow so soon on this route! 4 jet engines against 2 props, Jet A1 is so expensive now, I guess this outcome was a foregone conclusion if BAcon loads were poor at times?
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RE's IOM Luton is in on Sunday evenings too. I presume the Saturday will follow.
Luton to Newquay and Lorient have also (not suprisingly) gone for the winter,so it looks like just two each on Galway and Waterford and one on IOM.
Luton to Newquay and Lorient have also (not suprisingly) gone for the winter,so it looks like just two each on Galway and Waterford and one on IOM.
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Originally Posted by JDB1052
RE's IOM Luton is in on Sunday evenings too. I presume the Saturday will follow.
Luton to Newquay and Lorient have also (not suprisingly) gone for the winter,so it looks like just two each on Galway and Waterford and one on IOM.
Luton to Newquay and Lorient have also (not suprisingly) gone for the winter,so it looks like just two each on Galway and Waterford and one on IOM.
kills my plans!!
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Buster regarding IOM ...
I am not surprised. BA only bought MANX to get the LHR slots by moving them to LGW. I could see no other reason for the acquisition. Since then, the Manx routes have been slimmed and sold. I expect us to see it reduced by the traditional English method of 'a thousand cuts'.
Last winter, BA cut the route to four rotations in the week (I think) and the total cut for winter will please them greatly. Once Aer Arann step up the route BAcon will be able to withdraw, whilst presenting suitably long faces about how sad they are about it, of course.
Will Arann increase their frequency now they have removed the competition. BAcon must have problems if Arann have struck a death blow so soon on this route!
Last winter, BA cut the route to four rotations in the week (I think) and the total cut for winter will please them greatly. Once Aer Arann step up the route BAcon will be able to withdraw, whilst presenting suitably long faces about how sad they are about it, of course.