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Flybe BHX
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Olso would be a great addition for BHX but 77 seats a day?
As for France, that would be brave from BHX and here is the reason: -
September 2006 - Brest 1472, September 2005 2222
September 2006 - La Rochelle 1921, September 2005 3277
September 2006 - Bergerac 1921, September 2005 3222
September 2006 - Perpignan 1826, September 2005 3383.
The May - August figures are similar, all courtesy of Ryanair at NEMA
and downgrading most routes to the Dash 8.
On top of that with the one 733 going to Norwich this summer
flybe at BHX in 2006 has had a hard time pax wise - as for
yields who knows?
Pete
Olso would be a great addition for BHX but 77 seats a day?
As for France, that would be brave from BHX and here is the reason: -
September 2006 - Brest 1472, September 2005 2222
September 2006 - La Rochelle 1921, September 2005 3277
September 2006 - Bergerac 1921, September 2005 3222
September 2006 - Perpignan 1826, September 2005 3383.
The May - August figures are similar, all courtesy of Ryanair at NEMA
and downgrading most routes to the Dash 8.
On top of that with the one 733 going to Norwich this summer
flybe at BHX in 2006 has had a hard time pax wise - as for
yields who knows?
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yes i agree that flybe would probally find it it hard to do Olso daily perhaps 4X a week. For those French routes, i really didn't realise that some of those yeilds were that bad on last year.
well who knows what will be in the big expansion but still i hope they do they do more routes to France
well who knows what will be in the big expansion but still i hope they do they do more routes to France
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Flyjet will continue to be independant from Silverjets line of work and carry on with what its meant to do.
Flyjet cabin crews will remain to fly on Flyjets aircrafts and not on Silverjet..
Silverjet has now gained its start up aircraft G-FJEC which will sadly leave the Flyjet fleet without operating one flight. This was because Flyjet lost so much money this year and could not support the aircraft or anything else.
Flyjet will operate the shake down of all silverjet B767.
Once Flyjet proves themselves to Silverjet more aircraft may be added to the fleet.
But for now people should be happy Flyjet survived again and have continued to fly, No one now should worry about there jobs as they are secure.
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Are Flyjet still involved with flyfirstclass Stansted - Bermuda start up airline, the website states operated by flyjet.
I have asked this question a few times and not got any answer so far.
I have asked this question a few times and not got any answer so far.
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flybe move in on eastern
just been looking at flybe's website and i have just noticed that they have a new route:
HUY-SOU? I cant understand why they would be looking at that?
time for eastern to worry???? I HOPE NOT
i guess eastern and flybe markets are completly different
HUY-SOU? I cant understand why they would be looking at that?
time for eastern to worry???? I HOPE NOT
i guess eastern and flybe markets are completly different
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I think the longevity of the charter business is being rather over-stated. The 757s are on lease until November 2007 and are contracted for next summer. After that, it's anyone's guess as to what will happen and it's hard to see why a focused, all-business class airline operating a fleet of 767s from Luton would particularly want a 757 high-density charter operation from Newcastle and Manchester.
The Newcastle charter programme for this winter is being cut back quite heavily and that the Copenhagen programme is also reducing in size and length.
The Newcastle charter programme for this winter is being cut back quite heavily and that the Copenhagen programme is also reducing in size and length.
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Albert Hall the NCL charter programme is not being cut back quite heavily, as you say. Infact new flights have been added this week, available through freedomflights and XL.com. Sure some flights operate on a stop/start basis and FUE has been cut back, but has been replaced with a PFO service. This is the nature of winter charters, they operate according to time in the season and demand. So infact, at the height of the winter season the based NCL Flyjet 757 will operate on all 7 days of the week, compared with the original 5 days as was planned.
Good luck Flyjet. Lets hope their reputation they have built at NCL (which is actually fairly positive) continues to grow and that Silverjet built and keep the charter operation. There is a gap in the charter market for an airline like flyjet, but overall performance needs to be addressed.
You are also forgetting that FJE have a charter base at LGW, aswell as NCL and MAN. The charter business if run right, could provide Silverjet with decent extra income.
Good luck Flyjet. Lets hope their reputation they have built at NCL (which is actually fairly positive) continues to grow and that Silverjet built and keep the charter operation. There is a gap in the charter market for an airline like flyjet, but overall performance needs to be addressed.
You are also forgetting that FJE have a charter base at LGW, aswell as NCL and MAN. The charter business if run right, could provide Silverjet with decent extra income.
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More routes????? Well more aircraft are needed....But then they will need more bases because there arent any stands left to park on at most A/Ds. Therefore open France and Spain.... All well and good but who's going to crew them? Nobody worth there salt AND EXPERIENCE will work for FlyBE except retirees and 200hour wannabes. We all started there but it is so apparent that anybody who is low time and gets a job with FlyBE nicks off after the relevant experience.
Alot of people who work for FlyBE are sick to death of working with people who won't join the union, are in it for career progression and will do anything to get their, including buy the ticket and sit in the corner and not say a word for fear of career problems. AhhhhhhhhhhhGrrrrrrrrrrrr
Alot of people who work for FlyBE are sick to death of working with people who won't join the union, are in it for career progression and will do anything to get their, including buy the ticket and sit in the corner and not say a word for fear of career problems. AhhhhhhhhhhhGrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Virga,
whats your problem with Flybe?
Everytime your name pops up on a Flybe/Q400/146 thread you pump out the same propaganda:
low hour pilots, not worth there (sic) salt, desperate retired pilots, 146 pumping fumes, blah, blah, blah.
There are a lot of pilots with several thousand hours (me included) who choose to remain in Flybe, like the company, like the Q400 and 146 and don't need you popping up to rubbish them and the company.
Whats your experience?
whats your problem with Flybe?
Everytime your name pops up on a Flybe/Q400/146 thread you pump out the same propaganda:
low hour pilots, not worth there (sic) salt, desperate retired pilots, 146 pumping fumes, blah, blah, blah.
There are a lot of pilots with several thousand hours (me included) who choose to remain in Flybe, like the company, like the Q400 and 146 and don't need you popping up to rubbish them and the company.
Whats your experience?
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I think Flybe is a brilliant airline Virga better then that loudmouth O leary and his tip Ryanair. I hear that Flybe are in talks with MSE be great if they do.
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What a load of utter B/S. Flybe has an excellent dedicated team and the Q's and 146's are superb pilots aircraft. TBH I don't rate the EMB's much but thats just a personal choice. All airlines have a mix of 'spotty kids' and 'old boys' so whats your problem. Are you getting UP enough maybe you should consider a name change to VIAGRA!!!!!!.LOL,
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I hope Flybe will be ok. Just heard another 4 resignations today. That makes 38 resignations in the last 2 months. If only the company would look after the staff I'm sure things would be different and Flybe could be a major player. I think a good clearout of some dead wood in Exeter is needed. As for MSE I think it would be a bad idea. But hey I've been wrong once before when I thought I was!!!
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"Talks with MSE"
Before anyone gets too excited about rumours along the lines of "flyBE are in talks with MSE", can I just point out that the Routes conference took place last month in Dubai. It was the largest 'Routes' ever - for those unfamiliar with the concept, it's basically speed-dating for airlines and airports. Virtually all airlines come along (it's free for them), and airports pay a fee to attend and to make a series of 15- or 20-minute presentations to their "target" airlines. So Infratil were probably there, they probably had a "hit list" of airlines they'd like to have in MSE (and PIK), and flyBE was very likely on it, meaning that Infratil was among flyBE's dozens of meetings. That would mean that MSE and flyBE were "in talks" all right - for 15 minutes, at the airport operator's request.
Now I could be wrong - perhaps there are intense secret discussions going on which will culminate in a major surprise announcement
But in the past I've come across upbeat comments by airport marketing people (for other airports which shall remain nameless 
) along the lines of "we're in talks with five major carriers for important new routes" which actually translates to "we arranged to meet five airlines for 15 minutes each at Routes a few weeks ago and they took our Powerpoint presentations away with them and politely said they'd consider them" so I tend to be fairly cynical about "in talks with" claims.
C.
Now I could be wrong - perhaps there are intense secret discussions going on which will culminate in a major surprise announcement
But in the past I've come across upbeat comments by airport marketing people (for other airports which shall remain nameless ) along the lines of "we're in talks with five major carriers for important new routes" which actually translates to "we arranged to meet five airlines for 15 minutes each at Routes a few weeks ago and they took our Powerpoint presentations away with them and politely said they'd consider them" so I tend to be fairly cynical about "in talks with" claims.C.
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I hope Flybe will be ok. Just heard another 4 resignations today. That makes 38 resignations in the last 2 months. If only the company would look after the staff I'm sure things would be different and Flybe could be a major player. I think a good clearout of some dead wood in Exeter is needed. As for MSE I think it would be a bad idea. But hey I've been wrong once before when I thought I was!!!
I think flybe could make MSE work if they fly the right routes
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surely all of these resignations will soon mean Flybe won't be able to Fly any more. I do hope they will be okay. Are they doing anything to sort this problem?
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FlyBe to acquire BA Connect (Route/spotter discussion)
Thu 19th October 2006Flybe concerned as Balfour Beatty goes for Exeter airport
Devon County Council has appointed Regional and City Airports (RCA) as the preferred bidder for Exeter and Devon Airport Ltd (and Exeter International airport). RCA is the joint venture of Balfour Beatty Capital and London City Airport. It has tabled a £60m ($ 112m) bid for the airport, and hopes to finalise the acquisition by the end of the year.
Flybe however, is not so happy about the news. Exeter airport is an important base for the airline, yet of the three major contenders for the airport RCA is the only one not to have promised them full protection on flights and staff.
In a statement released yesterday, October 18, Flybe commented: “Balfour Beatty London City Consortium is the only serious bidder not to have reached an agreement with Flybe that protects the existing and future flights from the airport and the 1,800 jobs that Flybe supports directly and indirectly. Only when these issues are resolved will Flybe be able to welcome the announcement of a preferred bidder.”
When asked for its response to Flybe’s statement, Balfour Beatty told ABTN: “Flybe is a very important part of the future of Exeter International Airport. We have had a number of exploratory discussions already with Flybe and further meetings are planned with a view to finding the right formula for all parties to ensure that the airport continues to benefit from its excellent services for the long term future.”
Lets talk.....
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Devon County Council has appointed Regional and City Airports (RCA) as the preferred bidder for Exeter and Devon Airport Ltd (and Exeter International airport). RCA is the joint venture of Balfour Beatty Capital and London City Airport. It has tabled a £60m ($ 112m) bid for the airport, and hopes to finalise the acquisition by the end of the year.
Flybe however, is not so happy about the news. Exeter airport is an important base for the airline, yet of the three major contenders for the airport RCA is the only one not to have promised them full protection on flights and staff.
In a statement released yesterday, October 18, Flybe commented: “Balfour Beatty London City Consortium is the only serious bidder not to have reached an agreement with Flybe that protects the existing and future flights from the airport and the 1,800 jobs that Flybe supports directly and indirectly. Only when these issues are resolved will Flybe be able to welcome the announcement of a preferred bidder.”
When asked for its response to Flybe’s statement, Balfour Beatty told ABTN: “Flybe is a very important part of the future of Exeter International Airport. We have had a number of exploratory discussions already with Flybe and further meetings are planned with a view to finding the right formula for all parties to ensure that the airport continues to benefit from its excellent services for the long term future.”
Lets talk.....
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